It's not certain that they'll even be open by Thanksgiving. The governor seems determined to keep them closed.

For sure. Where had four different reservations now. We will keep trying. Just trying to figure out the blackout situation in advance.

Just checked, no new word on Disneyland annual passes recently.(I don’t have an AP any more but those close to me do). Nothing in writing either, just some verbal assurance in phone calls that they will “be taken care of”

Downtown Disney just opened and some relatives just went there the other day, they said it was pretty controlled and locked-down.

Unfortunately The Void has been kicked out, supposedly there was some weird legal dispute between them and Disney involving disclosures and Disney gave them the boot. Too bad, that was really fun.

Whenever they do open, it will be at limited capacity, and I think it's going to be difficult for Passholders to get reservations, especially for consecutive days. People are so desperate to get back to Disney that downtown Disney is hitting capacity 5 minutes after opening and they are turning people away at the parking lot entrance. It will be interesting to see how Disney handles it, but unless they really pressure the governor to let them open with more than fractional capacity, I don't see how they avoid paying out refunds to most Passholders.

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Aren't your passes good for the Disney parks in Florida too?
By Thanksgiving....If you can I would book FL.

Thanks ,Looks good hopefully it's open but being a buffet it probably will have to wait till next trip.But definitely going to try it someday.

They weren’t pre-covid. Are they doing something like that now? That would be a nice thought.

Spice Road Table we hit for the first time a few years ago when we went with my parents. My Dad said it was his favorite meal ever at Disney (we have gone since 1979 when I was little and they still go 2-3 times per year with friends or my family ...except now with Covid) and we have gone to just about every restaurant. Outdoor venue with a roof, overlooking the lake and the food and service was amazing. Even my kids loved it and they can be a little picky with non traditional American foods. Second is Edison, a steampunk kind of place but really good food and a great place for a lighter lunch or dinner (dinner had entertainment). The third was recommended to me by a bunch of my in-laws who swore by it (one couple named it their favorite). Art Smith walked around to see everyone too. I had to be rolled out so careful how much you eat LOL

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/epcot/spice-road-table/

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/disney-springs/edison/

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/disney-springs/chef-art-smiths-homecomin/

That is only for the "Disney Premier Passport". It's a pass that is good at both, but if that is not what you bought, it isn't included.

Thanks, we did this in 2011, so I wasn't sure.
It worked out that time for us. We combined a NASA launch and all the parks.

Spice Road is very enjoyable. There are so many choices, but my list of favorites are:

Raglan Road in Disney Springs
Whispering Canyon at the Wilderness
50's Drive In at Hollywood Studios
Rose & Crown at Epcot

So many others, but these have the best memories and aura about them. Try to hit them ever time.

I agree on all of those (the scotch eggs at Rose & Crown are to die for)

Whispering Canyon can get too loud with all the kids. I have been told they toned it down but last couple times I went it was almost Chef Mickey's loud

We love Trail's End in fort wilderness. It's a great buffet of bbq type food with plenty of choices. It's not too pricey and we go at least once per trip.

I'll be happy when the buffets open back up.

It isn't like it was several years ago where the "rudeness", was at an all time high. It was a lot of fun back then, especially for the kids who got a kick out of yelling for ketchup. When we went in January, it was defiantly toned down unfortunately.

Big layoffs announced. Guess it was inevitable, but lots of people impacted.

Yes, 28,000 layoffs. Combination of some parks still closed with no clear reopening dates (e.g. Disneyland here in CA) and the parks that are open having way-down attendance. Could be worse; the Broadway shows have totally given up on the 2020-2021 season now. Disney scrapped plans to bring Frozen to Broadway even if and when they reopen.

Seems like a power move to force Gavin to open Disneyland. We'll see

Something I have always wanted to make. I present the very rare, one of a kind, Diseyland Indiana Jones Adventure Pinball in 1/24 size. I recreated the decals, hand painted the mohagany trim, and hand painted the bamboo legs complete with twine. I am now offering a limited number of these on my Etsy shop for others to enjoy.

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The one time I tried playing this it was broken and took my money. Had pretty serious playfield wear too. It's been gone for some time.

Maybe, though there are other things that they could be doing that would be way more effective. Don't want to get a political moderation though so I'll just say I don't know what they're doing but they aren't trying very hard to open.

Yep it’s no mystery the game was a mess but boy it was cool

What's your etsy?

"Maybe, though there are other things that they could be doing that would be way more effective....."

What things could they be doing? I would think they have done everything they could to re open......their property in Florida seems to be following good safety protocols even during a surge there they were never shown responsible for any super spreader events.

It seems like forcing the governor to face the economic facts that Anaheim is going to go bankrupt without an open park is the only move left after being ignored week after week.

The governor here is facing a recall effort that is gaining serious momentum because of these shutdowns. Disney could easily use that to their advantage.

I assume by " here" you are talking about California ? Your location doesn't show ....
Isn't that what they are doing? Applying populist economic pressure based on imminent massive layoffs ...

I hope it moves the needle a bit

Even Yehwah Bob at Port Orleans was let go. I get the logic of it, but it still hurts. We loved going to his show.

Yes. I'm in California. The problem is that the governor is not worried about the economy. He's on the record saying he's going to just assume that the federal government will bail out the state and proceed under that assumption. There are a lot more people losing jobs here than just at Disney, so I don't think Disney announcing layoffs will make a difference.

As for the recall, I'll leave it to your imagination how they might use that.

Could you post a link to that video or reference? Thanks.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Gov-Gavin-Newsom-legislators-reach-deal-on-15357356.php

The Los Angeles Times is reporting that guidelines will be released this week, according to state officials. It wouldn't be the first time they lied about it if they don't follow through, but maybe Disney's PR campaign is actually working.

Ha! I wouldn't call it PR....I would call it political Blackmail......
I have always been morally conflicted by Disney. I love Disneyland but the unabashed consumerism, no matter what the cost, has always been difficult for me to swallow.

More layoffs last week at Disneyland.
Pretty big number of cast members will not have insurance come Nov 1.
Our backstage union is in negotiations that are not pretty.
A small fact to face here. The amount of layoffs means we are done until 2021 now.
We were told that you dont do a layoff and call them back 30 days later for a xmas season.
Optimistic that come April 1 we will open to limited capacity, face masks, temp check.
Rapid testing is key to this opening.
Meanwhile Avengers land is coming along slowly, very slowly. Should be ready by April.

Newsom is single handedly killing the Disney parks.

Doesn't help when Mayor of Anaheim doesn't want 20,000 flying in from all over the world either. Hate to say it...he kind of has a point. We need rapid testing asap.

There hasn't been a positive case traced back to WDW yet that i've heard of.

Watching, yes none found yet.
But, can i be honest without getting political?
Im trying to tread lightly here....
It"s Florida!

But most of the people are not from Florida. They're travelling from all over, just as they would be to Disneyland.

I'm absolutely gutted that NAMM is cancelled this year. I so look forward to my annual Anaheim trip so I can visit the rat and have a turkey leg. I can't wait to get back there in 2022 when California (hopefully) regains some semblance of sanity.

I’m sad about it all. We have had four or five different reservations that keep getting pushed back. The latest is thanksgiving but it looks like that’s dead now too.

I also look forward to leaving freezing Maine for southern California mid-January for NAMM every year.
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Without turning this into the covid thread its horribly subjective.
All those guests fly home...if they get infected its pretty hard to trace it back to Disneyworld. The travel along could be blamed.

If you want to Monitor your trip to Florida, here is the best website for info, based on the release of Data from the Govt, via telecheck out of PA. You can read further on the debates, regarding how numbers are reported these days.
They have a mobile app as well, search by County.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/7572b118dc3c48d885d1c643c195314e/

It also links to a site that tracks every school district in the US.

They’re doing a lot of contact tracing now. It would be super easy to connect the dots with major spreading events for “people in wdw” in a given timeframe. There is not one reported connection (that I’ve heard of). Not to be argumentative, but I really believe covid is no reason to keep a major employer closed for half a year. If we can’t keep people safe at DL, how about Costco? It’s tragic that CA is so anti business.

Newsom is supposedly sending a team to Orlando to evaluate theme park safety protocols, and seems to have changed his tone a little since last week when he basically said there's no hurry. I think it's a stall tactic, trying to look like he cares about all the lost jobs, but they've had months and months to figure this out and now they're looking at Florida? Nothing about this sounds genuine. There's no need to travel to Florida. All of the protocols are in place here waiting for the doors to open.

I'm sorry, I couldn't find anything on the net regarding contact tracing at Disney World. Could you share more?

Any confirmed case is supposed to undergo contact tracing to see where they’ve been and who they contacted. If Disney was in their recent history you can be SURE it would come up and be corroborated by others. But you’re right, I don’t believe Disney is doing any direct contact tracing themselves.

I'm going to WDW next week, and honestly...I have no concerns. Not sure about tracing, but they are going well beyond the norm to ensure safety.

As far as Disneyland, could care less.

All of these businesses that require people to show up are handling it the same way...hush, hush. You're not going to hear about anyone from any of those places getting it. But frankly, you can just do the math and it's pretty much a given that it's happening. Just like airplanes. 1 in every 6,600 Americans is getting it every day, so if you have more than that going you can be pretty much assured that it's happening. Like I calculated my kids school before it started, there's a 1 in 10 chance that someone in the school will have covid on a given day. 30 school days in, 3 kids have gotten it.

I think you’re probably not wrong on the numbers. But you have to remember this doesn’t spread by voodoo. There’s an actual substance to it. You can be near someone but not catch it from them with appropriate precautions. I have hundreds of people coming through my office daily. Not one contact from tracers. We just take precautions. I think Disneyland can do the same.