(Topic ID: 284442)

Direction of Stern 2021...

By iceman44

3 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

  • 194 posts
  • 69 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 3 years ago by JY64
  • Topic is favorited by 11 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

No games have been linked to this topic.

    Topic Gallery

    View topic image gallery

    87069807_3089970921013229_1789687072374652928_n (resized).jpg
    thats-not-how-this-works-thats-not-how-any-of-this-works.jpg
    3e89ea1787221e66e010a710c4ed97d50d26de9d (resized).jpg
    3a5861c95871f4063a7f57a2ed97988a (resized).jpg
    image (resized).jpeg
    Unknown-4 (resized).jpeg
    hqdefault-1 (resized).jpg
    images-7 (resized).jpeg
    whine (resized).jpg
    EA0A33D3-01A9-484C-B12E-E2AA514CA7CE (resized).jpeg

    You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider NPO.
    Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

    22
    #13 3 years ago

    Maybe they should focus on making playfields that last more than 150'ish games or 1-3 months before permanent damage starts appearing.

    Then we can get onto the big stuff like making "packed" games.

    Dunno, something about "being able to walk before you can run" or something of the sort.

    #122 3 years ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    The BOM excuse from Stern comes across as BS. Stern investors likely have a figure in mind of X amount of dollars they want to make per game. If JJP is making games with more in them, and overall using higher quality parts for the same price (premiums and LE's) that tells you they make less per game then Stern.
    Let's say JJP makes $3k per LE and they happy with that. Well Stern may not be happy with $3k per LE and instead demand $4k - $5k profit per LE. That sounds like greed versus just being happy with making a decent profit while putting out a quality product. Its possible Stern could make JJP loaded titles and generate a profit of $60 million a year versus $70 million (just an example) using today's build methods. What is so wrong about that?
    Games like LOTR were loaded and sold for $3500 about 15 - 17 years ago. Inflation takes that $3500 to about $5k in 2020 dollars. Do premiums today cost $5k? No. They now cost around $7500, they have decals vs direct printed cabinets, cheaper quality parts, heads made with 2 pieces of wood and metal, no proper lockdown bar, cheaper quality playfields, etc.
    So yes the BOM excuse at the prices Stern is charging today doesn't fly. Consumers can buy similar priced games from JJP with higher quality parts, more features, more code work, etc...something doesn't add up. Theres no reason customers should have to pay $15k for a Stern LE that is comparable to a JJP LE that cost $9.5k. What so Stern can make a $5k profit versus $3k? Forget that.
    Hallelujah! Holy sh*t! Where’s the Tylenol?

    You got a thumbs up from me solely on the NL Christmas reference. Even read it in Clark's exasperated voice xD ....!

    You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider NPO.
    Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

    Reply

    Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.

    Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!

    Donate to Pinside

    Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!


    This page was printed from https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/direction-of-stern-2021?tu=NPO and we tried optimising it for printing. Some page elements may have been deliberately hidden.

    Scan the QR code on the left to jump to the URL this document was printed from.