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Dipsy doodle williams motor keeps running

By Lambecka

6 years ago


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#1 6 years ago

After playing score reels resets to zero, but motor keeps running and playing again is not possible.
Unlatch reset relay by hand and can play again

#4 6 years ago
Quoted from currieddog:

Did you check the switches on the reset relay? Looks like the M/B and/or the NO C switch could be causing that. Also Index C on the SM. Manual/schematic here if you don't have them: http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=683

Checked switches on the reser relais, this relais is energized after play
After play score reels 1 and 2 goes two zero normal speed. But reel 3 and 4 very slow almost stops

#6 6 years ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

These need to be taken apart and cleaned if not moving freely.

Ok understand maybe need to,be cleaned , but its more like if htey have power enough and still when everything is on zero motor keeps running.

#8 6 years ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

Right. That is a separate issue apart from the score motor running. Did you check the coin door switches?

No coinswitsches installed anymore , machine is on freeplay

#10 6 years ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

Bummer. Okay well I would read up on the Williams start up sequence on pinrepair.com and check each step of the process.

Ok, its almost midnight overhere, thanks so far , wil check and continue tomorrow

#13 6 years ago

Howard,
Checked the rel you mentioned and they all work fine exept the reset rel. After each game the machine perfect resets all score reels to zero, but motor keeps running because the reset rel is still energized. Switch the power to off and on and motor stops and machine is ready for new game.
Also checked SM switches as mentioned by curry dog and works fine

#16 6 years ago
Quoted from rolf_martin_062:

Hi Lambecka, Howard +
I read (did I ?) "Lambecka preys the Reset-Relay open when the Score-Reels are resetted --- the Motor stops turning and Lambecka can play". See the JPG - the rosa/pink question-marks --- either one (or more) of the "16 Drum Units Zero Pos Break Switches" does NOT open when reaching Position-Zero (one possible cause of the fault) --- OR / other possible cause of the fault: The part of the switch (my rosa/pink short lines) to OPEN when the turning motor reaches Home-Position --- this part of SCM-IND-C does NOT open.
Lets find out - toggle-off the pin and unplug the main power cord (Safety Reasons) --- the INDEX-Wheel / Cam on the Score-Motor is the one closest to the "real motor" --- count top down the switch-blades there - one, two, three - four --- put a lace around the fourth blade --- when You pull (in the pin) upwards: You lift the blade and You make the switch to open.
Have the lace ready - plug-in, toggle on, start a game --- when the Score-Drums are resetted: YOU PULL-UP on the lace for about 10 seconds --- big question: (AAA) the motor stops ? - or (BBB) the motor keeps on running.
When You have "AAA": You must adjust this switch.
When You have "BBB": You must (again) inspect the switches on the 16 Score-Drums.
Write about.
From Your description in post-13 I believe: You also have an minor fault / slumbering fault with the Game-Over-Relay --- I would like to have a look at this - after You could fix the "real / nasty" fault. Greetings Rolf

Rolf
Bingo you right followed your scheme and finally found one of the switches of the score reels not fully open. Very difficult to see and despite a cleaning job stil let some power thru.

Rolf and all,others many thanks helping me out and for all the info given.
Albert

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