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Diner Resto 2019

By Jjsmooth

4 years ago


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#1 4 years ago

I will be documenting the resto of my Diner machine here. It's a reimport, dirty as hell, and loose as a goose. But a good candidate for complete resto. I'm not sure yet if keeping or selling this machine when finished, but contact me if interested.
Starting point - I got this machine a couple years ago, kinda did a topside shop with new plastics, ramps, etc, so I could keep it in the lineup, as most everyone likes this game.
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#2 4 years ago
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#3 4 years ago
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#5 4 years ago

Got my new CPR playfield a few weeks ago, so that got me motivated.

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#8 4 years ago

Staring with the backbox. Emptied and sanded with 80 grit (orbital sander w/vac) to remove loose paint and raised grain.
Recessed a few screws at weak corners.
Almost ready for Bondo.

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#9 4 years ago

While waiting for Bondo to cure, put the backbox harnesses into ultrasonic cleaner, rinsed, hung, and connectors dried with air compressor.

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#11 4 years ago

Cabinet decals from Planetary are here.
I may take these to local vinyl sign shop and have laminated with a glossy clear. Not sure yet

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#13 4 years ago

Backbox smoothed and primed.
Ready for some paint.

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#14 4 years ago

I like this primer as it acts as filler as well.

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#17 4 years ago
Quoted from russdx:

how many cans to spray whole back box?

2 cans. Sand with 400 grit between and after each one.

#18 4 years ago

Box painted. Will let cure for couple days.

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#19 4 years ago

I really like PPG Breakthrough paint, satin black.
Super durable, water based, and I can spray it with an HVLP gun, with about 10% thinning with water.

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#20 4 years ago

Lamp panel painted semi gloss white. Normally I just leave the old incandescent bulbs in place while painting, then replace with leds. Since I already had leds in here, I cut small pieces of foam to protect the contacts in the lamp bases.

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#24 4 years ago

Thank you.
I happen to have a Taxi coming up next that will get the same treatment as this Diner.

#25 4 years ago

Here's a quick run through of dry setting decals.
Cut to edge of print (they are oversized), lay on backbox and center. Once centered, cut notch for painters tape. Recheck msmnts for center.
One piece of tape at top, one halfway up one side.

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#26 4 years ago

Peel backing off to the tape at side.

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#27 4 years ago

Remove backing exposed (exacto)

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#28 4 years ago

Lay that half down with squeegee.
I put soft latex tape on squeegee to avoid scratching.

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#29 4 years ago

Peel backing off of top half, and do it again.
If u keep a tight roll at the surface like this, u will have zero bubbles. Takes a little practice, but doable. Just walk it along with squeegee, keeping tight roll.

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#30 4 years ago

Cut edge with straight edge and exacto (about 1/8" in from edge) and grab a beer.
Now, all your prep work will be evident. Decals hide nothing.

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#34 4 years ago

You don't want edge of decal exposed to handling at very edge. Yes, decal really sticky, once the glue cures, takes heat to remove.
Exacto cut edge is right at decal edge, so invisible. When using a new blade, very little pressure required.

#35 4 years ago
Quoted from Blackbeard:

Also, looks like you’re decaling over a bolt in one of your pics. (Or
Maybe it’s a countersunk screw?)
Shouldn’t
Bolt come
Out, then reinstalled after decal?

Not sure what you are seeing, maybe a drilled hole for angled corner brace bolts?
Recessed screws filled and sanded earlier.

#37 4 years ago

Not a bolt. That is a hole filled with Bondo and redrilled. Cannot have the old caved in holes from previous carriage bolts. Would wrinkle the new decal.

#39 4 years ago

Thx.
Going to replace the MDF bottom in the cabinet. No chance this is gonna clean up as good as I want it.

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#40 4 years ago

Playfield on the rotisserie, ready for disassembly.

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#42 4 years ago

Lamp panel cleaned and painted, boards cleaned and put temporarily back in place (waiting on caps, etc.)

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#43 4 years ago
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#44 4 years ago

Cabinet empty, going to cut the bottom off this thing.

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#45 4 years ago

I cut it right at the top of the bottom panel, usually 3/4" up from bottom of cabinet edge.
That way, my new MDF panel will sit exactly how the old one did.

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#46 4 years ago
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#47 4 years ago

This is a great time to fill, sand, and paint cabinet interior.
Then when I install new bottom, it will look sweet.

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#48 4 years ago

3 coats of satin black later..
I set this on a scrap piece of MDF to show how nice this painted edge is going to look.

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#51 4 years ago
Quoted from BJM-Maxx:

How will you re-attach the lip you removed when cutting out the floor?

I make an "L" shaped channel out of 3/4" plywood. Once I Bondo the outside, it will look original. Might have time to do that today.

#52 4 years ago
Quoted from Brazy:

Nice thread J... looking good....$80 bucks and we'll take that eyesore of a slot out of your basement...hehehe

$100 and I'll bring it to Bob's next Saturday.

#54 4 years ago
Quoted from BJM-Maxx:

How will you re-attach the lip you removed when cutting out the floor?

Like this

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#56 4 years ago

MDF is glued and stapled

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#57 4 years ago

And L channel glued and pinned

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#58 4 years ago

When you buy this pf from CPR, you are offered a backglass for $169.
Sold

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#61 4 years ago

Bondo to conceal line at L channel

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#62 4 years ago

Paint done. Can't wait to dress this box up.
Decals on Sunday.

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#64 4 years ago

Glad to help.
Decal time. Cut to edge of print and lay on cabinet side. Keep consistent overhang (mine was 3/4"), check for design center, and tape in place with painters tape (only). Once decal isin right spot, I cut 3 notches to cabinet edge, and secure half the decal.

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#65 4 years ago

Peel back the half of the decal not taped down

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#66 4 years ago

Cut the backing out of the way

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#67 4 years ago

Attach a straight edge to end of decal. This keeps the corners from flopping over and ruining your day.

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#68 4 years ago

Keep a nice curl as you lay that thing down. Light squeegee as you go. Work from middle out. Slowly.

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#69 4 years ago

Same deal on other half of decal.

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#70 4 years ago

Mmm...grab a beer.

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#72 4 years ago

Thx for letting me know. I hope it helps others to try. It's definitely not easy, but it is doable.
Going to let this set tonight, putting some legs on tomorrow

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#75 4 years ago

Installing some cabinet parts. New side rails from Pinball Life, shooter assy, flipper buttons, etc

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#76 4 years ago

Always use Stern style cabinet protectors. Cut and remove portion of decal about 1/8" to 1/4"
outside of the protector. This will make sure there is zero chance of wrinkled decals.

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#77 4 years ago
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#78 4 years ago

Restoration decals from Treasure Cove are a nice touch.

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#81 4 years ago
Quoted from djblouw:

Where did you find those on their website? That’s a great touch!!

Contact pinsider Athens95. He does them.

#82 4 years ago
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#84 4 years ago
Quoted from mof:

What's the install like for those?

Easy. 2 sided tape.
Getting the old ones off, a bit tougher. Heat gun and pry them off.

#85 4 years ago
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#87 4 years ago

Power supply cap kit came today.
Big Daddy is my go to for these.

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#88 4 years ago

$15 and 30 minutes of your time well spent.
Original caps are pushing 30 years old, and way past their expected service life.

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#89 4 years ago

Reflow solder at every pin while board is out.

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#91 4 years ago

It takes time to get a feel for whatever product you are using.
I have found that if you put less hardener, it is easier to work with. And it clogs up sandpaper way less.
Use a random orbit sander, start 80 grit, 120, primer
This is what I use now, because I can sand in 15 minutes. Love that.

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#95 4 years ago
Quoted from Flynnyfalcon:

I was going to say the same. After restoring a few pins, these are a must.

Not really. The length of thread is the same, and that is what is important. I'm not looking for structural help on the cabinet, I have that taken care of.

#96 4 years ago
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#97 4 years ago

Burnt GI header pins replaced (thx snyper2099).
To show my gratitude, I hammered him on a few games of FG while he was here...that boy will never learn.

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#98 4 years ago

Stripping old pf. Couple items to make reassembly easier.
Mark all harness mount screw holes with a dot. Helps to get harness reoriented on new pf. I leave the mounts on when harness cleaned, so this helps get the whole think close when putting it on the new pf.

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#99 4 years ago

Any oddball shims, hardware, etc, gets ziptied together and location marked (on old pf).

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#100 4 years ago

I leave 1/2" of wire when I clip coil and switch wires, just to make sure correct wires going back in correct spots.

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#101 4 years ago

Harness out, will go into ultrasonic cleaner tomorrow.

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#102 4 years ago
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#103 4 years ago
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#105 4 years ago

Sorry it wasn't clear. Wait til I clean the harness and install on the new pf. It will make sense then. I'll make sure.

#106 4 years ago

A little side by side comparison.
Holy crap

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#107 4 years ago

Playfield harness cleaned twice in ultrasonic, rinsed, blown with compressed air.
All under pf mechs getting the same.

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#108 4 years ago

Nice touch that CPR didn't have to do.
Cnc'd the diner letters.
Here's the old pf

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#109 4 years ago

And the new.
Sweet.

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#110 4 years ago

Something I recommend doing whenever replacing playfield is temporarily install hinge mounts and lower hooks to make sure everything is right. Much easier to adjust now, rather than when this pf weighs 40 pounds more.

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#112 4 years ago

Back panel of playfield looking crappy.
Heat gun to remove, one coat of satin black after, and looking good.
New decal available from Athens95.
Thankfully.

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#113 4 years ago

Starting to populate pf with pops. I like the twist mounts. Gotta drill any new pf to fit. Clear coat will clog the hole.

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#114 4 years ago

Tap them in just to the twist thread.

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#115 4 years ago

And pull them down when u tighten the mounts from below.
Going to use some transparent skirts and bodies for a sexy look.

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#119 4 years ago

There was 1 issue I was worried about with this resto...the coffee mug. Originals are yellowed terribly, and no peroxide or bleach treatment will help this type of plastic.
And once you put the old one up against a new playfield, it's just not right. And the new clear plastic below the cup makes it even worse.
And yeah, I hear someone is "gonna" make one, but I'm not going to stay in limbo for who knows how long waiting for that.

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#120 4 years ago

So I'm painting mine white, like a diner coffee cup would probably be.
I like it, and will add the decals and auto clear coat it to give it a nice shine, and prevent ball trails inside.

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#124 4 years ago
Quoted from mof:

Looks nice, clear view from the front to see ball travel.
-mof

Not goin there..

#125 4 years ago

Progress up top- painted rails, rebuilt drop targets with decals, new rubber as I go

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#126 4 years ago

Underside - All coils get new sleeves and wrappers, all mechs cleaned, just starting to place major stuff and rollover switches before harness goes back.

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#127 4 years ago

Harness in place

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#128 4 years ago

When harness is cleaned with heated degreaser, it loses its "memory" a little bit, so orienting it back to pf can be tough. I zip tie the mounts to the harness before I remove them. I marked all the holes when I took off harness mounts old pf. I then mark those same dimples on new pf to give me a good start to getting harness into correct position.
Hope that made sense..

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#130 4 years ago

You got it.
Pops get full treatment. New caps, lamp holders, bodies, rings, skirts, springs, spoons, yokes, and sleeves. Makes all the difference in the world when u have fresh, tight pop bumpers on a classic game.

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#131 4 years ago

Making good progress with top of pf. Need to take a few pieces back off, as I am waiting for cup, cash register decals.

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#132 4 years ago

Cliffy protectors used at hole, left side of ramp, and inlane guides.

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#133 4 years ago

After looking at these decals, I decided to paint this on my white cup. These standard decals seem too small for the size of the cup.
And they weren't exactly put on straight..

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#134 4 years ago

I like it. And will clear over it tomorrow.

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#136 4 years ago

Thanks, I appreciate that.
Putting alot into this one.

3 weeks later
#138 4 years ago

Apron repainted, new decals, available from pinsider Athens95.

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#139 4 years ago

Everything wired up, putting pf back in the box tomorrow. Waiting for a couple register/jukebox decals, but they will go on when I get them.

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#140 4 years ago

Fired up, needs a few SW adjustments.

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#141 4 years ago

Thanks sodacrack and snyper for the help today, getting this machine into bsmt and hooked up.

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#142 4 years ago

Still need speaker/display plastic.
But I am close to complete.

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#146 4 years ago

Yeah I see that. The 2x LEDs show up brighter than they should. Even warm white

#151 4 years ago
Quoted from sniffsnerk:

Looks awesome! I can’t seem to find the display/speaker plastic. Are these available anywhere?

I'm going to polish the orig.

#152 4 years ago
Quoted from RC_like_the_cola:

I'm sure he loved the restore process, but he's certainly charging for his labor in the FS thread lol.

I do love the process.
And my labor is worth charging for.

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