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Diner Pinball Won’t Boot!

By Pinball-DOOD

3 years ago


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    #11 3 years ago
    Quoted from Pinball-DOOD:

    checking for a beep

    in DC voltage mode -- there's no beeping =)

    Check page 84 of your manual to see the voltages on the schematics for the power supply board.

    To get ideas on what to check in what order -- study this:

    http://techniek.flipperwinkel.nl/wms11/index2.htm

    Also - you can search for "test points" to quickly see what values to test for.

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    #47 3 years ago

    F3 on which board? power or aux power?

    Quoted from Pinball-DOOD:

    What could this be?

    Search "site:pinside.com" + "system 11C" + "F3" or "site:pinside.com" + "Diner + F3" to get a sense of the range of ideas on what to check.

    also, you can substitute Diner with other 11c's

    #48 3 years ago

    Progress! Looks like you may have things isolated to the master display board.

    https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/images/d/d2/D-12232.jpg
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/system-11c-display-issue-single-digit-broken

    shot in the dark:
    With the power off -- check for a short on U19 UDN7180

    #50 3 years ago
    Quoted from Pinball-DOOD:

    I don’t have the schematics in front of me

    get them in front of you.
    https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=681
    -mof

    #51 3 years ago

    http://techniek.flipperwinkel.nl/wms11/index3.htm

    internet -- how do you check for chip shorts on the backside of the master display board?

    Seems tricky.

    #53 3 years ago

    http://73.21.92.229/sys11/index3.htm
    "Testing the UDN7180/UDN6118 Chips and Score Glass for Shorts."

    good luck ! DMM set to diode test... 7 * 2 tests per chip... hunt for a difference!

    #76 3 years ago

    Was this machine in a known state or unknown to start? I don't recall whether we expect everything to be great and something recently changed, or is this a recent pickup, and an unknown.

    Continuity check the ribbon cable wire by wire. That's low hanging fruit to isolate. If the DMM points are not small enough, wrap a dead diode leg (clip the legs off) around the end of each probe tip.

    -mof

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