Quoted from sethbenjamin:

Dang, that's a *very* clean playfield. No wear around the inserts...really nice. Keep that game waxed! Maybe shoot another clear layer at some point to preserve it.

Quoted from sethbenjamin:

Link to thread?

Quoted from Wmsfan-GAP:

I have a Diamondplate Pf with some 'insert opportunities'. Do I spend the money on having it restored/reworked, or do I wait and buy a CPR pf?
Technically if I go the latter, I will not have an early production game, but rather a game with a 'repro pf' and a yellow wireform. No way to differentiate from a early production vs a later production with a yellowed ramp....

Quoted from Plumonium:

I own both as well.
Diner is more rare, hard to find in some places and in good condition, it will fetch more money I think. Diner will become more collectable as some people love sys11.
As for gameplay. Pinbot is a far more difficult and punishing game. It's a more mature theme as well.
Diner is more family oriented and games last generally longer, at least for me. Rules are simpler I think. I like Pinbot road to multi-ball better than Diner which is hard to finish (spinner shot if tough in mine). Diner is a very pretty game. Diner music is great as well.
I owned both Diner and Taxi and I sold Taxi. I liked Diner better of the two in terms of gameplay. Taxi's music and callouts are tough to beat though.

Quoted from Cmjb13:

Man I love digging into this thing as a first time owner....
I made a quick pass with some Turtle wax chrome polish on the playfield and it’s cleaning up well.
Hopefully this weekend I can remove the plastics and give them and the playfield a good cleaning.
I seem to recall a thread where people used 4 blue LED’s for the lampposts on the backglass. Anyone know the color or part number?
I have 3 of these plastic domes that have the sides snapped off. Can anyone direct me to replacements?
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Quoted from Cmjb13:

Do you know what these pieces are called?
Thanks

Quoted from Cmjb13:

Any idea for colors on the following lamps?
#13 - Release
#14 - Rush 1
#15 - Rush 2
#47 - Cup Scores 10x Diner Letter

Quoted from Cmjb13:

Anyone know what the best way is to access the target decals so I can replace them?
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Quoted from Cmjb13:

I'm trying to remove the cup and saucer. I understand there is a 90 degree L bracket behind the playfield that keeps this in place.
I tried lifing the entire playfield straight up and lifting it up off the hinges so I could access it, but was not successful.
Can anyone recommend the easiest way to do this?
Thanks.

Quoted from Luzur:

Anyone here have a really good pic of the area between the lower flippers? im helping a friend to repaint some of the black figures (a dog and some women i think it was) due to being worn away abit and kinda need a pic that shows the white lines in the black figure areas.

Quoted from Luzur:

Those are good enough, but i need one of the dog below aswell, if you could. Very much thanks anyway for your work.

Quoted from Cmjb13:

The ice cream floats on the sides of the flippers have 3 screws/post studs.
Can anyone tell me which one goes in each hole?
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Quoted from Cmjb13:

I've never noticed this before, so I figure I would ask..
For a new game, is the clock supposed to start at 12:00 or 1:00?

Quoted from vbobrusev:

Who knows parts number for diner flaps?

Quoted from vbobrusev:

yep 3 metal flaps on playfield

Quoted from BJM-Maxx:

Who has much success nudging when in the cup? I never feel like I am affecting anything. What is the best timing? Front to back.

Quoted from Jjsmooth:

That's fine with me. I think the cup scores too many points in the game.

Quoted from Pin_Bob:

Hi everyone! I have a Diner that I have a question on. The diverter on the right ramp never moves during game play. The coil fires in test mode and will move the diverter one way. What causes the diverter to move back after the coil releases? Is there supposed to be a spring?
Thank you!

Quoted from d0n:

I have a question about flipper strength on Diner. I'm finding it almost impossible to make it up the right ramp unless I am extremely lucky. The cup shot that is supposed to be one of the most satisfying shot in all of pinball is all but impossible.
My game has brand new everything flipper related including flipper coils... and they both seem to work as they should. They're just not powerful enough in my opinion.
Is there a more power coil that can be used on the flippers that would solve my issue?
THANKS
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Quoted from Analogkid:

Gameplay question- do all the characters have speech on your machines? On mine Pepe doesn't and Boris and Buck share have the same speech. As far as I know I have the latest ROMs. Any thoughts/insights?

Quoted from d0n:

I just put 2 blue coils in my diner and it made the game much more fun to play. Skip the orange and go right to the blue.
No broken plastics or drop targets yet!

Quoted from Blackbeard:

Ok any idea where it goes?

Quoted from Blackbeard:

Does anyone else seem to drain when the ball rolls out of the right side of the pop
Bumpers?
Seems to go straight down the middle. So annoying.

Quoted from Blackbeard:

Gotcha.
So this is normal then?

Quoted from Blackbeard:

Thanks guys.
Really liking diner. I’m liking the different paths one can take towards big points.
Wish the spinner shot was easier to hit for multiball instead of having to rely on the Today’s Special hole. I guess that’s my only gripe.
I also like that the ramps aren’t too easy to hit. Need to time the tip of the flipper just right.

Quoted from herg:

Someone was very creative in repairing this lift ramp. Any tips for getting it fixed?
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Quoted from Blackbeard:

Guys, thinking of selling my diner. Thoughts on price...
All new ramps, including cup, shopping with new rubbers and leds. New star posts. Inserts levels. Above average playfield and cab. New flipper mechs.
I have no pics on me, but what are these things going for these days?

Quoted from zerbam:

anyone interested in trading your nice diner for my nice revenge from mars?..........i want to join the diner group

Quoted from Sethman:

Question for owners:
The lock shot under left ramp. Do you have cases where the shot is not registering for the lock and blows past the saucer?
Since going to a new CPR playfield I'm getting a decent amount of lock shots not stopping and end up back into the lanes up top or pops. Wondering if its because of the new, faster playfield with clear versus the old, slower original playfield which didn't seem to ever have that issue.
Also, right ramp shot into cup. I have new starship ramps and new cup. Rebuilt left flipper has enough strength to make the ramp fine for triggering diverter, but then making the longer / steeper shot into the cup I'm finding the ball doesn't have enough "umph" to make decent revolutions in the cup (yes I have a MRS switch so no resistance of normal switch). And the EOS has been set correctly, the flipper has plenty of power. Anyone else with similar experience?
Thanks.

Quoted from Sethman:

For lock shot, there’s not really much to it. There’s an angled bracket with rubber pad directly below the saucer hole, and a 1 way gate leading out back into the lane/pop area.
Only thing I can guess at is the angled bracket/stopper isn’t doing a good enough job.

Quoted from Doctor6:

Thank you. I removed it, but had to snip some wires to do it and am now terrified i wont be able to put them back together. The right flasher (the 89 bulb) lools like just yellow wires on both sides? As if it was a stanard gi? Man, this is a huge ask, but does anyone have pics of the back if this thing? I dont know what wores go where, now.

Quoted from AlexRogan84:

I can't comment on this new switch, but if I'm not mistaken, with the original switch and spinning the cup, it depended on whether it was your first spin of the cup or not as to whether each rotation counted or whether it took two rotations to equal one uptick of the value.
The way mine works, I believe it takes you two rotations to get it up to 2.5 mil and then each single rotation after that counts for 100k. It has to do with the letters in DINER. When you start a ball or game, they are already all lit and the ramp is ready for the first shot to open the diverter and the second shot to go up to the cup. If the letters on the playfield aren't lit, you relight them by right ramp shots, D I N E R with values of 25k, 50k, 75k, 100k and then when they are all lit, the values are 10X, which is where your cup spin points come from.
If you watch the letters on the playfield as you are spinning the cup, you will see them fill in in much the same sequence as when you are relighting the ramp.

Quoted from mike200mph:

Anyone Need A new Repro Cup with decal
Still have some left. PM & let me know
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Quoted from goingincirclez:

Well it's time: my 15yo daughter helped begin the teardown and plans to lend assistance through the full playfield swap, hoping to finish in time for Louisville Expo this year.
What are some recommended enhancements for this that we should consider? I see a crystal-clear cup is available but don't want to blow the budget all around, so want to consider all the options first. Was thinking of art blades but I personally don't like the ill-fitting cut-paste clipart on the Pingraffix set. Anyone have photos of mirrors, and where to get them? I seem to recall there were hotdogs or something else available for the switch covers - Anyone know where to get those? Anything else fun available to consider?
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Quoted from goingincirclez:

Oh I assure you it's beat to hell... we were shocked at how filthy it got on location in the two+ years since I shopped it, and some areas were even furthered down to woodgrain and flaking beyond. The center area is comprised of overlays. But to your point it's not too bad for wall or ceiling art, so if we don't come up with space for same I'll keep you in mind for dibs

Quoted from phs4real:

Check switch operation behind the button. Make sure it's not sticking, it should make a clicking noise, one click per press of the button.

Quoted from Mark603:

I am new to the forum and have a tech question. My Diner game has recently defaulted to 4-player mode. It immediately goes to 4-player after turn on and hitting the start button once. The multiple player select worked nomally for years. Any ideas how to troubleshoot this problem?