I'm looking to maybe joining the club on this game. I've got a hmo Pinbot with a bit of mylar bubbling and the back of the topper cracked I may trade locally for Diner, owner wants a little cash on top. This game when I've tried it simulated seems like a whole lot of fun with lots more to do, and appears to lack the really finicky precision things pb has with the vortex and stuff. Would you as current/past owners feel 450 with the trade decent? And if I do this, anything I should be aware of as far as maintenance goes beyond the basics (like pb is with the vortex and center motorized targets?)

Well the current Diner up for trade in Louisville where I am is up on this site. Mine is not, it's just quietly sitting here, back of the topper is cracked, some bubbling in places on the mylar, but other than some superficial age wear/damage in here or there it's in excellent shape and no paint/wear loss on the play field as it's home use only. So I wasn't quite sure, figured I'd ask here as you all would know the best in this case.

Like you said Tomass, I don't put a lot of value in that either. I asked about the pb table here on the site a couple years back in the thread dedicated to that one, showed images of everything and was told 2K was fair, so unless my table lost value or they were just fan pricing it, I felt the margin felt a bit wide so I asked.

If you're curious: https://www.flickr.com/photos/22443064@N08/albums/72157690475359734 That's mine.