would you consider a trade for revenge from mars?

I know. But I need room to work on more projects.

Thanks for the offer, but as above, I need room. Any trade would have to be heavily in my favor.

Just finished a full restoration on Diner and I did install the new MRS switch for the cup and it works perfect! I also put the switch in Creature also. I feel it give me a few extra points for the ball spinning around the cup and I need all the point I can get Installation was very easy too.

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Nice work! I one was of the first to get that MRS for the cup, it is simple to install, my only concern was the adhesive letting go over time. So far so good!

Good decals is better than a bashed up cab in my opinion. Just decalled my Diner but then I am not too fussed if it doesn't look original. IMHO it looks better with red legs, lockbar and side rails!

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Thanks for the plug!!

Matt
M&M Creations

Even less an issue today as the new MRS' are about 1/3 the size of the originals....so smaller AND lighter - and they weren't big to begin with!

Glad it's all good for ya still!

Matt
M&M Creations

Hi Mfresh
Wow, your game came out Nice,
My Repro Cup looks Nice in there !!!
Also dig the red side armour. Congrats Now go play the hell out of it.

Thanks Mike.
Your repro cup is great - so glad I bought it. I am working on some repro jukeboxes which I hope to have available in a few weeks.
Then I have to do a playfield swap and the Diner will be perfect!

I'm happy to say I joined the Diner club recently. Love this game and one of my favorites from when I was a kid.

Just going through things and making small tweaks here and there. One thing I was wondering about is the volume control pot mounted right beside the tilt plumb bob. Is there a way to adjust the zero on those things? My game is pretty loud even when turned all the way down. The pot comes up to a stop fully counter clockwise. Are you supposed to be able to turn the volume down all the way to muted with those things?

My other similar era games I guess are slightly newer because they have the four button programming set-up, where the middle two buttons are your volume up and down and it shows you on the display. And you can go into settings and turn off the limit on minimum volume. I don't see anything like that in the settings menu on Diner.

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Welcome to the club! I have Diner and Whirlwind and you can't mute either of these pins.

My Diner will go full mute when I rotate the pot. Same as my Taxi and High Speed.

So is that to say I should be able to loosen the lock nut and readjust the zero so that all the way left is mute?

No, thats not how it works... The nut has nothing to do with the limits, it just holds it on the bracket, and there is no "zeroing". A potentiometer is a fixed value from end to end. The factory pot starts at zero ohms and goes to 10k ohms, so turning it all the way counterclockwise should set the volume to zero.
Its likely that someone replaced yours at some point with different limit values, or possible yours is malfunctioning (they dont last forever). I'd suggest just replacing it with a proper 0-10K ohm. https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-8550-1

Thanks for explaining how that works.

Is this the same one, minus the bracket? https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/5014-12363-00

Based on the description, it appears to be...

On page 71 of the Diner manual, under plastic posts, it says there are 4 of those transparent red mini posts. I have only found three on my game and wondered where the fourth one is?

Two of them are in plain sight on top of the ramps behind each of the orange rubber switch covers and the third one is tucked in behind the cash register (I have put tiny rubber rings on them since this picture was taken).

Anyone know where the fourth one is hiding?

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Behind the cup handle. Thanks, I see where that goes now.

Hey guys I noticed my spinner stopped adding points last night, I pulled playfield and it doesn’t look like the switch is attached to the wire arm and I can’t figure out how it attaches. Help?

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Took a picture of mine. The wire just hooks through a hole in the switch blade.

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Has anyone rolled over their score on a game? Like more than 99,999,999 points?

I did that in a game tonight and was surprised at what happened. It didn't give me credit for it!!

I noticed during one of my last balls that I was nearing 99 million. At 10% tip bonus at the end of the ball, I knew I got there so I let up a little. Seeing my score displayed as 5 million or so as that ball ended and then when the bonus came, it only calculated the 10% tip on the 5 million and not 105 million. Crap.

I think I had one last ball after that and same thing. Finished the game at 10 million on the scoreboard... and that was it. Match thing happened and nothing more. Never even got my name in for Grand Champion because it thought it was 10 million and not 110 million. Bummer.

Was there a code update that fixed this scoring glitch? I've rolled over the score on my Funhouse once before but it kept the score. It displayed 09 million while the game was still on but gave me my 109 million for Grand Champion. No such luck with Diner tonight. Awesome game though, wow, had the flow going for sure.

Yeah, we all have this problem.

Put the glass back on it...

Are there new Diner playfields available for sale anywhere?

Not until CPR makes s few more.

Or a Hardtop gets made.

I have a CPR silver but it would take A LOT to pry it off my hands!

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My CPR gold is going in my game.

I would sell my old one but like so many others, its a piece of crap.

Actually the one in my game isn’t that bad! Will sell it if/when I do a full restore.

I'm new to researching replacement playfields, so not sure what gold and silver designate? Thickness of clearcoat or something like that? I assume they all have the same artwork and mounting holes and whatnot.

Not yours in particular, but what would these cost if/when CPR has them for sale? Are we talking $1,000 USD for a playfield that hasn't become super rare and hard to find?

It will no longer be a piece of crap when someone will be able to install a Hardtop on it. Oh, it will happen.

This is how you fix the volume control a friend of mine Mike showed me about this easy fix last night. desolder the ground from the volume control and resolder it to the bottom leg it by passes the resistor.. it takes five minutes I’ve included pictures before and after, easy peazy.. This works on other games also.. Williams did that on purpose did this on purpose so the game would be heard and stand out, but i found it annoying and too loud. I remember the lady I bought it from they had it in their restaurant and the customers complained it was too loud and pulled it out of the restaurant and put it into storage..

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My game is not too loud, the volume control works well enough from the factory.
I can turn it way down low.

It truly is a work of art! And it also has the DINER letters on the wood

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CPR did an amazing job on these!

It took 7 years of waiting, but they are perfect.

I wish they would have made more as it was a pretty short run that sold out immediately.

Maybe they will run another batch.

If CPR runs these again, they won't be the same as original screen printed version. Everything is digital now. I have a gold CPR playfield in the closet. Absolute work of art.

I agree.

But at least there may be parts available.

Would digital be better?

It looks different.

All new playfields are basically printed with a computer printer.

They look great but lack the depth you can get on a multi screen process.

Both styles can have errors and poor registration.

There are pro's and con's to each process.

Both styles however look great to me.

Plastics that are digitally printed look more washed out as the ink is much thinner.

Old NOS screen printed plastics can look better than the new digital repros.

I can't say.

I've bought a bunch of playfields from CPR though the years, but I haven't bought any since they switched over to digital.

Mirco is 100% digital.

The new games look amazing.

You can do a lot more with digital print.

Some say it lacks authenticity and want hand drawn art.

I like them regardless.

Clearcoat curing times, primer formulas and general clearcoat issues is another thing altogether, these days.

But the printing looks great.

How are you guys storing your playfields? Out open air? Packaged? Laying flat on the floor?

Flat on a shelf for me.

Hanging on a wall is ok but, they can warp unless screwed to endgrain wood edges.

Do you have yours open air?

its on a 24" shelf to lay flat.

What is a hard top?

Nevermind, just found this thread: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/official-hardtops-thread#post-4427182

According to CPR when they ran these, they would not be able to exactly match the neon orange in digital format. If there is a difference, it will likely be the colors. I waited years on the silkscreen list and got no notification. They sold out. Then they had an Ebay sale for some of their personal collection. These were pulled off the line without the rating system. I paid a king's ransom for mine and had it sent to Kruzman. Its beautiful now.

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