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Diner Owners Club...Can I Take Your Order ?


By Pinballgeek

6 years ago



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#1101 6 days ago

I am still interested in one. I spend more on leds on most machines, so this seems worthwhile for me. When will they be for sale?

For anyone willing to experiment I RetroBrited my current cup. Since the yellowing is throughout and the RetroBrite can only really affect the surface you cannot fully cure the yellowing. Still, it removed probably 75-80% of the yellow, which might satisfy most people. I did the liquid style, dunked the cup and set it outside in the bright sun for about 3 hours.

#1102 6 days ago

right now. pm me
thank you for understanding

#1103 6 days ago

I get all that kudus for making them but in 5 or 10 years are you going to have a cup for some guy that needs one? With the injection mold build we were going to do would provide A infinite amount of product for many years to come. We were so close to starting the build with PO in hand and design done. Materials would of been ordered next week and molds would be complete in 6-8 weeks

#1104 6 days ago

Actually Yes I will, I had to guarantee a good amount and I am sure I will have them on the shelf along with all the other hard to find stuff
I have collected over the last 30 yrs.

#1105 6 days ago
Quoted from mike200mph:

I am sorry some people feel this is expensive but the original guy who started this thread is a great guy was gonna make them with a friend in his garage and did not realized what it was gonna take in time, material costs etc. he was just trying to take a educated guess and really didnt want to do them and was fed up because no body was doing it and I was in the same boat .So I called him and let him know I had things in motion already and he was happy . I can promise you I am not getting Rich of these cups. I wanted to make these for cheaper but it didnt happen that way most companies dont even want to get involved with such little jobs. These cups are molded and are exact replicas that just take more time. To injection mold, the mold is I was quoted 15 to 25,000 and yes you can sell them for 75.00 so 2 things you have to look at 1 how many diner pins are left and 2 how long do you think its gonna take to get your return on investment back. Rick/ pps are smart business people and realize that as well as I did. so I opted to go with less set up costs which is still thousands and a higher price per part so I could get this done because i believe your only gonna sell maybe 100 of these parts
Everything is more expensive these days and you can't get things done for 59 dollars. if we could go back in time we would all buy the top shelf pinball machines of 2 to 3 grand.
hope this helps Explanation for th diner owners. I just wanted one for myself and to help other diner owners

For a short run, i dont think the price is that bad.

$165 would be better imho...

In fact $195 is also ok if not pretty good.

Some silly mods are $250.

If I didn't have an original unobtanium NIB crystal clear one that has never seen the light if day, I would immediately buy this.

I spent $800 on a playfield, $200 for a main showpiece is nothing.

I also agree that decals should be included for the price. They are inexpensive and might fit the budget.

Rick might cut some slack on this.

#1106 6 days ago
Quoted from pin-pimp:

I get all that kudus for making them but in 5 or 10 years are you going to have a cup for some guy that needs one? With the injection mold build we were going to do would provide A infinite amount of product for many years to come. We were so close to starting the build with PO in hand and design done. Materials would of been ordered next week and molds would be complete in 6-8 weeks

Its still possible to go forward.

Machine shops all over shenzhen are waiting for your business.

I think the $15k price can be met if not lowered.

#1107 6 days ago

hi
if I could work out a deal with rick on the decals I absolutely would love to include them
marco has decals I think for 25.00
but I just wanted to start with rhe cup because I knew the cup was the hard part and for YEARS people said they were gonna get made and it just didn't happen so I didnt want to wait anymore. whats funny is guys will spend 200 on leds, 800-1000 on playfields hundreds on ramps. but I make a unobtainable cup for 195 and some people are happy. Again sorry there a little expensive but that is what the current production costs are. I must say
plenty of people contacted me and bought them and I thank them for understanding.

#1108 6 days ago

Well I am Glad to Announce that I spoke to Rick @ Planatary this Evening and We had a Really Nice Conversation. We have come to agreement on the decals for the Cup and he gave me the go ahead to have them made
So I can Now include them With the Purchase of the Cup at No Extra Charge. He will Not be making these Cups because I already have and he will be concentrating on other Projects
he wants to get done for the Pinball Community. I Just want to say thank you again to Rick !!!
Hope adding these will help some of people feel they are getting a little more Value for there Purchase.

#1109 6 days ago
Quoted from mike200mph:

Well I am Glad to Announce that I spoke to Rick @ Planatary this Evening and We had a Really Nice Conversation. We have come to agreement on the decals for the Cup and he gave me the go ahead to have them made
So I can Now include them With the Purchase of the Cup at No Extra Charge. He will Not be making these Cups because I already have and he will be concentrating on other Projects
he wants to get done for the Pinball Community. I Just want to say thank you again to Rick !!!
Hope adding these will help some of people feel they are getting a little more Value for there Purchase.

This is just Awesome!
Great news!

#1111 4 days ago

Hey all. Just joined the club a couple of weeks ago. I'm having a problem with the subway kick out. It's a tough mech to see what is going on while it's struggling because the game needs to be down in playing position for it to work. It sounds like the ball is just not shooting straight. A couple of times the ball has even gotten stuck on the left side between the wireform and the playfield. Has anyone had similar issues? Anything I should be looking for? The mech doesn't seem to be bent or anything. Thanks!

#1112 4 days ago
Quoted from SLCpunk2113:

Hey all. Just joined the club a couple of weeks ago. I'm having a problem with the subway kick out. It's a tough mech to see what is going on while it's struggling because the game needs to be down in playing position for it to work. It sounds like the ball is just not shooting straight. A couple of times the ball has even gotten stuck on the left side between the wireform and the playfield. Has anyone had similar issues? Anything I should be looking for? The mech doesn't seem to be bent or anything. Thanks!

Time to pull it apart, clean,tighten and investigate.

#1113 4 days ago

I just installed this magnetic switch from Matt. (Pinsider sonic)

Its easy to install, super sensitive and works like a dream!

Its not electronic. It won't wear out.

No more dead spins!

It took about 10 mins to install.

No cup or back panel removal.

I didn't even remove the old switch.

I stongly encourage diner owners to install it.

Its eay better than the old mechanical switch and way more accurate.
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Zoom into the pic and its the black rubber/plastic looking thing to the left of the cup switch hole.

#1114 4 days ago

Wow Awesome !!!!

#1115 4 days ago
Quoted from mike200mph:

Wow Awesome !!!!

I was surprised how well it worked thru the plastic.

#1116 4 days ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I was surprised how well it worked thru the plastic.

Magnets are strong.

#1117 4 days ago

I have the sonic MRS switch for my CFTBL - it’s a literal game changer. Looking forward to putting one on my brand new Diner coffee cup (which I’m installing on my new playfield)!

#1118 4 days ago
Quoted from shiffdog:

I have the sonic MRS switch for my CFTBL - it’s a literal game changer. Looking forward to putting one on my brand new Diner coffee cup (which I’m installing on my new playfield)!

Im impressed by it.
I agree, we put 10 games on it and the scores were millions higher.
My switch misses all the time.

With this, I didnt have to spend 3 hours and pull the playfield to fix a switch.

#1119 4 days ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Im impressed by it.
I agree, we put 10 games on it and the scores were millions higher.
My switch misses all the time.
With this, I didnt have to spend 3 hours and pull the playfield to fix a switch.

Is there a link to where I can buy one of those switches?

#1120 4 days ago
Quoted from indypinhead:

Is there a link to where I can buy one of those switches?

Just PM me!

#1121 4 days ago

I'm working on my PF swap. After moving the harnesses onto the new PF I found this yellow wire dangling from the switch for the skill shot saucer. I looked at the switch matrix in the manual and since this switch and the switch for the ball lock saucer are in the same column, I'm thinking this bit of wire is supposed to bridge between the two switches. Is that correct?

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#1122 4 days ago
Quoted from shiffdog:

I'm working on my PF swap. After moving the harnesses onto the new PF I found this yellow wire dangling from the switch for the skill shot saucer. I looked at the switch matrix in the manual and since this switch and the switch for the ball lock saucer are in the same column, I'm thinking this bit of wire is supposed to bridge between the two switches. Is that correct?[quoted image]

You should be able to see the little nib on the lug that the wire came off of to verify the schematic.

I can see a broken off end in the picture of the lug above your thumb.

Something was there?

#1123 4 days ago

I think that was actually this bit of yellow wire - it was hanging by a thread from the lug so I just went ahead and removed it. (I stuck it through the hole in the lug just for the photo - I will solder it back on once I figure out where the other end is supposed to go.) I'm thinking the other end goes to the same lug on the ball-lock switch since both switches are in the "green-violet" column on the switch matrix. (See the green-violet wires attached to the ball-lock switch to the left of my hand in the photo.) But I am a novice at reading switch diagrams so I wanted to see if anyone could confirm that I'm correct before I get out the soldering iron.

#1124 4 days ago
Quoted from shiffdog:

I think that was actually this bit of yellow wire - it was hanging by a thread from the lug so I just went ahead and removed it. (I stuck it through the hole in the lug just for the photo - I will solder it back on once I figure out where the other end is supposed to go.) I'm thinking the other end goes to the same lug on the ball-lock switch since both switches are in the "green-violet" column on the switch matrix. (See the green-violet wires attached to the ball-lock switch to the left of my hand in the photo.) But I am a novice at reading switch diagrams so I wanted to see if anyone could confirm that I'm correct before I get out the soldering iron.

When i see this on a game, the length of the wire limits where it came from.

Install the switch and see what likely contacts are near by with broken nibs on them.

It should be readily apparent.

#1125 4 days ago

1st customer cup installed and it looks great. Nice job Joe (shiffdog) Your resto is coming out Nice !!!

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#1126 4 days ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

When i see this on a game, the length of the wire limits where it came from.
Install the switch and see what likely contacts are near by with broken nibs on them.
It should be readily apparent.

Thanks - the length of the wire is another reason why I was thinking it must go to the ball-lock switch. I guess I'll go with that and see what happens.

#1127 4 days ago
Quoted from mike200mph:

1st customer cup installed and it looks great. Nice job Joe (shiffdog) Your resto is coming out Nice !!![quoted image]

Thanks - worth the money in my opinion. Really a no-brainer for me given that I'm installing a new PF and new plastics. The old cup looked ridiculous with the new saucer plastic!

#1128 3 days ago

I got one of the last ones Rick was selling a few years ago and it looked pretty bad. Cloudy and looked like it was made with a 3d printer. These look fantastic.

#1129 3 days ago

So I put my phone into the body of the pin looking up at my irksome subway kick out. Turns out the previous owner must have installed the incorrect switch. When the ball entered the wireframe from the scoop it would get caught on a switch wire that was sticking way up into the wireframe so the ball never would properly get struck by the plunger. Anyway I tried bending the switch down and out of the way and ended up breaking the wire off. Game works great now but I'm wondering why there is two switches on that mech anyway. Seems like only one is necessary.

#1130 3 days ago
Quoted from SLCpunk2113:

So I put my phone into the body of the pin looking up at my irksome subway kick out. Turns out the previous owner must have installed the incorrect switch. When the ball entered the wireframe from the scoop it would get caught on a switch wire that was sticking way up into the wireframe so the ball never would properly get struck by the plunger. Anyway I tried bending the switch down and out of the way and ended up breaking the wire off. Game works great now but I'm wondering why there is two switches on that mech anyway. Seems like only one is necessary.

Make it match the assembly in the manual.

#1131 3 days ago
Quoted from SLCpunk2113:

So I put my phone into the body of the pin looking up at my irksome subway kick out. Turns out the previous owner must have installed the incorrect switch. When the ball entered the wireframe from the scoop it would get caught on a switch wire that was sticking way up into the wireframe so the ball never would properly get struck by the plunger. Anyway I tried bending the switch down and out of the way and ended up breaking the wire off. Game works great now but I'm wondering why there is two switches on that mech anyway. Seems like only one is necessary.

I think there are two so the game can see both balls if they ever land there. However, still not sure why it matters.

#1132 3 days ago

I have seen the replacement cup and its great quality, I have dealt with Mike before and he is a stand up guy. Buy with confidence.

#1133 3 days ago

Mine arrived today and it looks amazing. Really appreciate Mike doing this.

#1134 2 days ago

Another happy guy, looks great !!!

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#1135 2 days ago
Quoted from mike200mph:

Another happy guy, looks great !!![quoted image]

Thats beautiful!

#1136 2 days ago

Looks Great Mike.

#1137 5 hours ago

Next batch shipping out this week
What a difference !!!

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#1138 2 hours ago
Quoted from mike200mph:

Next batch shipping out this week
What a difference !!![quoted image]

Wow those look great. I need to save my pennies quick

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