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Dimpling and wood grain on new Deadpool playfield


By drsfmd

7 months ago



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    #1 7 months ago

    Took this photo today, on a machine that was new (I think) this morning. Wow... this is bad.

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    #2 7 months ago

    Pre-lock popcorn at the ready!

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    #3 7 months ago

    That's a hot mess!

    #4 7 months ago

    Lots of ribbing there... sorry that happened to ya man.

    #5 7 months ago
    Quoted from whthrs166:

    Lots of ribbing there... sorry that happened to ya man.

    Luckily, not mine.

    #6 7 months ago

    That's pretty much normal.
    The one at PHoF is aboot the same.
    Nothing to see here......

    #7 7 months ago

    Dimpling WILL HAPPEN to a new game. Sorry for your loss bro.
    My Deadpool looks the same right now. Should look fine another 15k plays from now.

    #8 7 months ago

    I think we need a pic without the glare.

    #9 7 months ago
    Quoted from Twilight1:

    I think we need a pic without the glare.

    The glare of the overhead lights was the only way I could catch it with my phone, but it was visible to the naked eye as well.

    #10 7 months ago

    This always comes up...dimpling is normal. Those who have bought NIB notice it most. Why didn’t they years ago, they were operators who didn’t care...it was only about profit, not what the game looked liked. This is a different era. Yes, there is softer wood that the major producers ( Stern, JJP, CGC, etc.) should be called out on, but dimpling, for the most part is NORMAL. Expect it on all NIB.

    #11 7 months ago
    Quoted from dnapac:

    This always comes up...dimpling is normal.

    To summarize the last mega-thread. SOME dimpling is normal, but modern Sterns have WIDELY varying quality of playfield wood (proven by a pinsider with a device that tests material hardness), and some playfield/machine runs are WAY softer than others, resulting in much deeper dimples than B/W era or some other Stern pins.

    I had NIB B/W and the pits were not as deep as some of the Sterns of the last 10 years, and it seems to be getting worse overall. So yes, dimpling is normal, but not these new Stern crater dimples born from cost-cutting (like with the newer, softer, crappier cabinet wood they slipped in sometime around KISS). If it was "the way it is" then JJP's pins would have mega crater dimples, too, and they simply don't. They have "normal" small dimples, closer to classic B/W. This is (another) Stern cost-cutting issue, and probably the most visible one.

    #12 7 months ago

    Forget the dimpling, but that pf is got the wood grain coming through the art for some reason, it's as if the wood is still curing after the art was screened.

    #13 7 months ago

    Never play your new games!

    If you absolutely must play a brand new game, always put down a playfield protector BEFORE you launch that first ball.

    Nubes, you have been warned - don't come crying to Pinside.

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    #14 7 months ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    Never play your new games!
    If you absolutely must play a brand new game, always put down a playfield protector BEFORE you launch that first ball.
    Nubes, you have been warned - don't come crying to Pinside.[quoted image]

    Good advice. Never start flipping your balls around without protection!

    #15 7 months ago

    FFS that pic is crap and biased. Mine has 1000+ plays and would look the same way with the game off under ultra violet lights at that angle. Turn the game on and give us a straight on shot of it without the overhead lighting.

    #16 7 months ago

    Dimpling normal.

    Ribbing is the new normal.

    B/W games dimpled, but didn't have ribbing.

    Cheaper materials.

    #17 7 months ago

    They just dont make em like they used to guys, i dont care what Vid says!

    #18 7 months ago

    Oooooh im telling Steve Ritchie on you...

    #19 7 months ago
    Quoted from dnapac:

    This always comes up...dimpling is normal. Those who have bought NIB notice it most. Why didn’t they years ago, they were operators who didn’t care...it was only about profit, not what the game looked liked. This is a different era. Yes, there is softer wood that the major producers ( Stern, JJP, CGC, etc.) should be called out on, but dimpling, for the most part is NORMAL. Expect it on all NIB.

    Bullshit.
    I got an IMDNLE, played the crap out of it, and it has normal dimpling. Just like the rest of my collection.

    This here is unacceptable dimpling, quit drinking the cool aid, you sound ridiculous and are obviously uninformed.

    #20 7 months ago

    Every time these threads come up about games I own, I look at my games from normal players perspective and never notice anything. Only when I shove my face down with the glass off or take close up photos with light reflecting might I notice.

    Dunno, just glad these are the problems in my life.

    #21 7 months ago
    Quoted from Thrillhouse:

    FFS that pic is crap and biased. Mine has 1000+ plays and would look the same way with the game off under ultra violet lights at that angle. Turn the game on and give us a straight on shot of it without the overhead lighting.

    Game was on and being played when I took that photo. Without overhead lighting, you could see it with the naked eye, but the camera couldn’t pick it up.

    #22 7 months ago

    The new wood they use sucks. The 90's Williams I play don't have dimples the new stern and jjp pins do. Simple as that.

    #23 7 months ago

    My Iron Maiden looks the same way, but you have to get it at the perfect angle to see it like that. It just has raised grain... all of that is under the clearcoat... it’s not like it’s rough to the touch

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    #25 7 months ago
    Quoted from tilted81:

    It just has raised grain... all of that is under the clearcoat... it’s not like it’s rough to the touch

    Don't be so sure. If you had it recleared, the graining would go away.

    #26 7 months ago
    Quoted from Who-Dey:

    They just dont make em like they used to guys, i dont care what Vid says! [quoted image]

    FFS, I was eating man!

    #27 7 months ago
    Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

    Don't be so sure. If you had it recleared, the graining would go away.

    You would know better than me. My clearcoats really thick unlike my Aerosmith which looks perfect.. I’m not about to start wet sanding on it to prove either of us right or wrong tho.
    Interesting..... So if it’s not the wood, then it’s improper treatment between coats?

    #28 7 months ago

    There is nothing new under the sun.

    Not today, not 40 years ago.

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    #29 7 months ago

    ALL pinballs have this issue. Some worse than others, yes. I was at York yesterday and Deadpool had it bad. But, im not saying others dont. I think we either have to live with it or just dont buy pins.

    #30 7 months ago

    I have a 1981 Gottlieb Volcano. Lets assume as we all know, it was routed.
    I sanded and touched up the playfield.
    I clear coated it with 2pak.
    It had to have a kazillion plays on it before I clearcoated it.

    Was it dimpled before, not really noticeable but lets assume yes.
    The wood should have been completely compressed by now.

    It is now dimpling.
    I suspect it is the thickness of the 2pak. The clear is about 15 months old now, curing would not be the issue.
    It is not the lacquer of old and I think the NIB games are clear coated with modern coatings and are likely thicker than the once over lacquer of days past.

    Unfortunately , dimpling is not new, it is not consistent from game to game and sadly we are so anal in the hobby that it comes up to be rehashed once a week.

    #31 7 months ago

    When a 80 gram orb is flying around banging into everything, there will be damage. How come there are no threads complaining about all the other items that wear out? Could one say, pinball machines were made to self destruct, if you will.?

    #32 7 months ago

    If you want a better clear coat job, you can always have a professional reclear it. The grain will be gone and the insert outlines won’t be prominent anymore.

    I had my TWD playfield clear coated by HEP and I couldn’t be happier with the result.

    #33 7 months ago

    Here is one for ya. My 2009 HEP CV has no dimpling on the pf. When I got it in March, friends were asking if I was going to put a PF protector on it. Nope, why should I.

    #34 7 months ago

    The game will be fine and the more you play it the better it will look. Just play it and have fun.

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    #35 4 months ago

    Yes my new DP LE has it bad. It sits right next to my 2013 Avengers LE with not a dimple in sight.

    #36 4 months ago
    Quoted from Redrider:

    2013 Avengers LE with not a dimple in sight.

    Baloney

    #37 4 months ago

    I can understand dimpling and accept that. But the linear ridges is a big time eyesore. Is this the new norm for Stern Pros? Is it from not enough sanding prep before the art is applied, or is it that the clear coat is too thin?

    For anyone who has these ridges in the playfield and have installed a playfield protector, do they do much to hide them?

    #38 4 months ago
    Quoted from Redrider:

    Yes my new DP LE has it bad. It sits right next to my 2013 Avengers LE with not a dimple in sight.

    I think a photo of light reflected off the playfield may disagree with your eval.

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