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Dimples.

By Russell

5 years ago


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#251 3 years ago
Quoted from matbkk:

Actually I just paid 10k$ for a stern Game and ship it for 9000 miles.
So actually I am not trying to bash anyone but I am concerned about the future of this expensive game.

What are you concerned about? The playfields do not fall apart. I operate lots of new sterns. They have thousands of plays and they are all fine, look great, zero playfield wear. Don't worry dude. Just enjoy your new pin.

#252 3 years ago
Quoted from aeneas:

Your dealer should have told you this.

I am suprise that he does not told me "oh BTW your 10k game will get dimple all over after few days"

Anyway I am not a specialist, just an amateur who invested a lot in a game and I am suprised that this dimple happen.
Now I understant that there is nothing to do about it.

#253 3 years ago

Not only do games now days huge dimples all over them but if you step up and pay 10-12K for a JJP game the ink could chip off your PF in 3 digit number of plays and Jack will say;" what do you want me to do about it, its a pinball machine".

#254 3 years ago
Quoted from zr11990:

Not only do games now days huge dimples all over them but if you step up and pay 10-12K for a JJP game the ink could chip off your PF in 3 digit number of plays and Jack will say;" what do you want me to do about it, its a pinball machine".

Happened with my Dialed In...the SIM card hole design/shape was flawed (no bevel). Shit happens. Now they install a cliffy @ the factory I believe.

Even with softer/cheaper wood and design snafu's, it really isn't that big a deal. Great playing games with finished software is more important to me.

1 year later
#255 1 year ago
Quoted from Bwilson:

I think the difference is that the veneer used on the older playfields is thicker and harder. The Stern pfs are much softer...
CPR even says they use a 25% thicker veneer than Stern...
Added a few pics of my WCS'94 this game is air ball city (spent most of its life on route) and the damn thing hardly looks like it ever took a dimple. There is no way in hell my GB pf will ever look this smooth after dimpling.

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these photos really show lots of dimpling, so.... they are clearly all over the PF and close to each other showing orange peel...

I am in my (almost) 40s in feb, lol I am puppy! but I am not new to pinball, just new to ownership, and comparing a game that was made 30 years ago and most likely played on location and say that it has harder wood than a newer one seems like a stretch... You are comparing a game with hundreds of plays vs one with thousands. How is that a logical comparison?

I am also a woodworker and the density of wood does not change over time except for sappy woods like certain pines, that are soft but the sap inside hardens over time adding to the hardness they do however never get as hard as other hardwoods...maple is maple and the density is measure in the Janka scale (like any wood soft or hard). That is what we used in the wood working world as a reference. Maple is one of the hardest woods available (not the hardest) but pretty high on the scale (1450 lbs of pressure to get a 0.444 diameter ball half into the wood)...

So... all that to say, I think the new Sterns just need to be played for 30 years to show the same level of orange peel that a 90s game like the one depicted here does.

Has anyone here contemplated this as well?

#256 1 year ago
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#257 1 year ago
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:

Has anyone here contemplated this as well?

Endlessly

#258 1 year ago

How could you not love dimples

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#259 1 year ago

I have owned DE JP for 14 years. My first game.
I had the glass off this weekend. Its dimpled.
I think it is funny that i never noticed.
However, i noticed dimples on my volcano a couple of weeks after i clear coated it and assembled it.

#261 1 year ago
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:

Has anyone here contemplated this as well?

Nah, too busy playing pinball.

1 month later
#262 1 year ago

Hi,

Not bashing but...
Playing in bars in my highschool time during all the eighties, we got brand new games every month (I was and I still live in the city where Gottlieb import company was)... I never noticed any dimple on every game at that time... And the machine were staying between one and two month before changing to another location.

When the StarWars Stern get on the market, I participated to a convention. The machine was just getting out of the box by an operator to sell it during the weekend... The first day of the convention dimples appeared in the middle of the PF. Not one, but numerous ones, until it was covered of impacts like moon craters...

You can say everything you want on the hardness and the quality... Quality is not there anymore... And manufacturers can say everything they want to explain it is something natural (wood will never be as hard as the metal of the pin's ball), facts are there: thinner legs, softer PF, etc... The weight of the machine is an indicator. And cost reduction has always been the rule...

So what did you ever expected?

9 months later
#263 8 months ago

I had a nib Monster Bash SE delivered recently
but the distributor took it out of the box to fit it in the truck. When it arrived it looked new but I did notice the table had dimples on it before we even played it. What's the consensus...seen it before or the game was played and the counter was reset? Also had a broken rubber but I figure thats just from sitting.

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#264 6 months ago

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