can you post a pic of the part of the schematic that involves the bank reset coils , to help find where the problem is.

Likely, this is the drop target bank relays in the big relay reset bank at the bottom of your game. You need to clean and adjust the switches in both of those relays (one for each bank).

The bad news is these are notoriously hard to clean and adjust, because the switches completely move location when you have the bank in "service" position. The only way to do this right is to remove the 10 or so screws holding the bank to the bottom panel, and then flipping the bank over and cleaning/adjusting while the bank is in the secure (non service) position. Might as well clean and adjust everything while you are at it.

When you flip it back over, only put a few screws in until you are sure everything is working right.

Check all of your 500 point rollovers to make sure any switch tabs aren't touching/shorting out/blowing fuse.

As pinballdaveh mentioned above get a schematic (you can get a copy from Pinball Resource if you don't have one) and take a few pictures (lower 1/2, upper 1/2) with your camera and post them here - then we can help you with your problems.

Can you take another photo of just the bottom right? That is where the target bank reset coils are. They are out of focus on your other photo.

Looks to me like switches on the trip bank for Ab, Lb, and Db all need to be closed to complete the circuit to those drop resets. I would check those, which is again on that dreaded hard to see bank!

Looks like there are a lot of extra switches involved on the new game reset path. Needs the Ball Count wiper disc on certain positions (along with the minimum balls to play adjustment plug), the 'On Add Ball Count' switch to close, the SB1 armature switch to close, and the make/break switch on DB. Any of those could prevent the targets from resetting at game start.

Here's a problem that occurs when flipping over the rest bank. Due to 'gravity', you adjust the switches and you think they are correct...now you install it there is more pressure on the switches which can make the switches you just adjusted...not adjusted. I have restored 2 of these games and worked on others , and that reset bank can wreak havoc.

My suggestion unless you really think you have that bank dialed in, is to continuity test the armature switches(POWER OFF. 4 I think....single switch under the relays)under that bank. When relay is tripped, the contact should be closed and vice-versa. They are difficult to adjust and hard to see but it can be done w/some patience. If all is good then the next step is to check the switches in the reset bank for proper adjustment and that contacts are clean. My bet is on the reset armature switch....although I could be wrong! ; ) Good luck and just my 2 cents.

P.S. Where are you located? Maybe somebody close by could help you. That relay bank is not the best situation to work on for a 'newbie', but you'll certainly get an education from it.

I got to this thread way late, but did you ever figure it out? Got intrigued.

This is likely because you're simply triggering a different reset - the one where they pop back up after they are all down (and light WOW if I remember correctly?), rather than a new game reset. Your problem is probably still there. I would look at the score motor switches, not sure why nobody mentioned those - everybody always seems to fail to mention the score motor when it's been the source of so many of my problems. Makes things too complicated.

Whatever "TILT RESET ADJ" is also seems to play a role, is this for adjusting if ball(s) is/are deducted or if the game ends when tilted? Hmph.

Anyhow, hope you've solved it by now.

What happens after the restart if drops do not reset if you give the score motor a little push. I would check switch 3b and 2c

I think you have two issue. I would focus on the reset issue 1st.

One of he 50 point switches may not gaped correctly. (Out lanes, targets, top hole switches or one of the targets).

The reset of the targets is controlled by the DB Reset complete relay, on the control bank.

Sounds like you End of Ball reset is working but your Start of game reset isn't.

I would focus on the the 3 switches in red. I suspect the DB make or break switch (Red - Yellow). If it was the LB/AB then one side would reset and not the other.
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I was looking the the AB/LB circuits. On start of game the tilt relay is triggered and allows the the AB/LB coils to pull. Check the ones in red on the tilt relay and the DB relay check SL-red sl+blk is closed when DB is triggered.

PS. it looks like the target reset should only trigger at end of ball when the targets on one side are all down.

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double post.

The hold relay stay on all the time.

Dimension reset sounds like a great band name.

I would alligator clip the AB/LB from the 1st image I sent
Then the DB
Then Tilt(s) from the 2nd image I sent
Then DB from the pick below
Then Motor 1D from the pick below (Not circled)

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A coil stays stuck on or worst case a fuse flips because of too much draw. I didn't put the "R" relay as one to test because I am pretty sure that will blow a fuse.
If you just testing the start up sequence wait until the ball kick out and turn the pin off. (Same thing if the motor keeps running).

If you have a meter you can also check for continuity and manualy close the relays to see if the circuit complete. (with the machine off.) I did this to get my 2001 up and running.

The targets are supposed to reset at the start of a game, or if you tilt. 100 percent.

Sounds like you have lots of issues. If the chimes are locked on, you have stuck switches somewhere, or the score reel relays in the back of the head need some attention.

Do you have a copy of the manual? It will describe the reset sequence.

Also, where is rolf_martin_062 ?

Ok let's look at the "reset at start up" circuit again.

So as long as the DB is closed (Red wire and Yellow wire) and at least one of the Armatures is closed (common Yellow wire to Purple wires) then one side will reset following the green boxes and the other side following the red boxes.

I would focus on the green side then the red.

Note that the LB Armature and AB Armature are under the switch stacks See photo below.
It took me a while to get mine adjusted so it would register correctly. (My pin only has one.)

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When I restored my Dimension, those armatures showed signs of work having been done. One of them needed a replacement armature plate with lifter (A-9032) because the insulated lifter had fallen off. PBR carries them.

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That lifter helps the armature perform make-break action on the switch mounted to it, it also insulates the reset bank from the 120v of juice that the switch carries. Make sure your game is unplugged (not just turned off) if you decide to adjust these two switches on LB and AB. They’re hot!

What did your original armatures look like? Were they missing their lifters?

My guess is they are not pulled. When you turn the machine on, The R relay will energize the tilt (just before it pulls), and when the DB relay pulls that will allow both the AB and LB to be energized.
(Following the TB side of the circuits on the schematic)

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On the Target Banks not resetting at start up, the one thing in common with the two banks
is the DB Relay. I take it that the Control bank is energizing, so juice has to be getting to the
DB make/break switch..
The chimes are remaining on, but not scoring. The score reels are getting energized, but not
releasing. Is the Score Reset Relay in the head remaining energized? If so, has to be a set of
switches in the Control Bank. Probably in the Start Relay, or there may be two, S1 and S2.
As I'm sure you know, you don't want to let those coils remain energized for long..
Edit: Score Relays, not Score Reels. Are the Score Reels energized. If not, the Relays will
remain energized..

Persistence will pay off. This hobby should be fun so when you're finding it frustrating is a good time to take a break for at least a few minutes but usually better until the next day. If you'd like to try a phone call, send me your cellphone number in a private message and I'll make a first reply with a text message.

If the scoring relays lock on and don't let go, that's the first thing to fix because otherwise you'll burn up their coils. And don't let them be locked on for more than about 20 seconds.

See if they lock on when you activate them manually. If they do, try unplugging the playfield and see if they still lock on when you activate them manually.
What are the score unit solenoids doing when the score relays lock on?

If the Add 1000s Unit solenoid doesn't try to activate to reset when starting a game, Inspect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires
http://www.planetimming.com/Pinball/troubleshooting/EM%20Troubleshooting.pdf
http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#features

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