Im a little new in this area but I saw the WOZ and had my share of play and couldnt get off the machine. I took a chance with JJP because I saw the potential. I placed an order for THLE and switched to the SE. I wanted WOZ but I knew what it was all about and I just liked the eliment of surprise with TH. However after seeing the Video's I was disappointed in what I saw. It looks like JJP spent more time on developing what was under the PF then they did on what was on the PF itself. The ball itself does not seem to have a lot of action in it and I am guessing it is because the PF is so open on a wide body that it losses a lot of its motion. Now im not into bashing anyone, I know this is an unfinished product and I have faith that JJP will fix the issues. There was so much that could have been done with this game and to be honest Compared to the WOZ I am not seeing it. As humans we are all very visual in nature. And from what I see the visual is just not in the game as of yet. We can only wait and see, but after dropping 8K on this machine it does have me a little worried.