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Did BBB cause the bubble on J-Pop & Predator?

By colorado_cabrio

8 years ago


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“Did BBB help create an "investment" environment around pinball projects?”

  • Yup; we all saw the BBB guys get rich! 43 votes
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  • Nope; rising prices across the hobby are the problem 28 votes
    23%
  • Neither; "investing" in pinball is as good as any stock-market play 8 votes
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  • Screw This Thread! 44 votes
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#8 8 years ago
Quoted from aeneas:

Yes. But not because the BBB buyers got rich (like you state in option A) but because it proved someone could successfully (re)make pins on a smaller scale. So when JPop announced he would do it, there was less doubt he could.

The Gene comparison never made sense. Gene had a game fully designed and even had lots of parts. He essentially just had to manufacture. Absolutely a difficult task - but in the grand scheme of things - having a game already makes things a lot easier than starting from scratch.

No, the money factor plays heavily into the psychology about why people would pay $16k for a boutique game. BBB proved that limited run + cool art = collector demand rises over time. In other words, a guaranteed sure thing (financially speaking). Many Jpop buyers told me (paraphrasing) "What's $16 or $10k when it's going to be worth $35k or more!" Many buyers were absolutely looking at what happened to BBB and other market trends such as AC/DC BIBLE, Tron LE, and MM (this was before MMr). This psychology was getting us to pay more for Stern & JJP games as well - multiple thousands didn't seem like a big deal when a bigger return was surely guaranteed by the time it came to sell.

Since no one actually knew what Jpop was selling - there were never designs or fleshed out concepts up front when he started taking orders...people were absolutely buying on rarity speculation & banking on "the next BBB".

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