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Did BBB cause the bubble on J-Pop & Predator?

By colorado_cabrio

8 years ago


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“Did BBB help create an "investment" environment around pinball projects?”

  • Yup; we all saw the BBB guys get rich! 43 votes
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  • Nope; rising prices across the hobby are the problem 28 votes
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  • Neither; "investing" in pinball is as good as any stock-market play 8 votes
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  • Screw This Thread! 44 votes
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#24 8 years ago

I believe BBB and Tron LE are the two titles that created a collector frenzy. People will deny it, but what could be sweeter than buying a pin, playing it, then selling it for double in a year. That's a dream scenario.

As long as there is more demand than supply of a title, the price will climb. The issue now is this: with remakes and so many new pins on the horizon, it's really hard to see a title spike like either of those again. Premium pins have pretty much guaranteed Stern LE's won't spike.

#26 8 years ago
Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

Stern's quality control of their production pinball machines is TERRIBLE in comparison to most late model WMS/BLY SS, and even the Capcom and Gottlieb machines. The more LEs, they make the less the rest will be worth.
No pinball machine was designed to be operated for more than 5 years, but WMS/BLY machine keep right on ticking, while Stern machines fall apart.
Most of the 1990s machine continue to hold their own, and have aged well.
"Take care of your machines, and they will offer enjoyment for decades".
The problem really can be to able to find a proper technician to do the work, if you are not familiar with the component mounted circuit boards, electric theory, and journeyman level solder station work.
A pinball machine that does not work is a 300 lb doorstop. (You can quote me on this point).
Remakes of ANY WMS/BLY machines (or parts or playfields) still require the property rights as well.
Most of the Early WMS/BLY parts they do not raise much of a stink over too much, or negotiate quickly, but the late model machines are different.

I agree. Modern Stern's feel SOOO cheap and the price is going up. But that wasn't the question at all, so to keep this thread on topic, the question was about if BBB caused people to find the next "big" thing. Big as in a pin that will go up in price big. I am curious how a $16,000 magic girl would have faired. Would it shoot up to $20-$30,000 if only 13 existed. Who knows.

#28 8 years ago

Well considering the amount of people that gave $16,000 to Jpop (some more) I still believe there's a market for high end pins that's not tapped into. I'm talking 50 pins at like $20,000 each. Would have to be a true work of art and shoot amazingly well. John was on the right track but he started redesigning screws nobody would see.

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