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Did Bally make any classics 1982-87?


By PopBumperPete

3 years ago



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    #1 3 years ago

    Did Bally make any classics 1982-87?

    1981 was a great year for Bally, they released many games and pushed 10,000s of machines out the door
    but by 1983, the steam had gone out of pinball, only a few games produced, and building 2000 of a title was good business

    did Bally produce any must collect classics during 1982 – 1987?

    #2 3 years ago

    X's and O's

    seriously .. the list has some echos like ebd le and centaur2.. outside that .. hmm .. nope

    adding 1988 gets you truck stop ?

    http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?mfgid=412&yr=1982-1987&sortby=name&searchtype=advanced

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    #3 3 years ago

    Don't you have a workshop to clean????
    :p

    #4 3 years ago

    Im guessing its all personal opinion but i love my special force 1986

    #5 3 years ago

    HAHAHAH its way worse than it looked in the pics

    i should be cleaning it but there was german beer in the last container and I cant waste it!

    #6 3 years ago

    what do you think of vector?

    #7 3 years ago

    There's ten good ones on that list.

    Though this is the opinion of a guy who had a Rapid Fire.... Sold that one at a KZoo Super Auctions and did quite well on it. Even after Storment's fees.

    #8 3 years ago

    I don't think it is a "must collect classic", but Eight Ball Champ is a very enjoyable pin that I would like to have in my collection.

    #9 3 years ago
    Quoted from mg81:

    I don't think it is a "must collect classic", but Eight Ball Champ is a very enjoyable pin that I would like to have in my collection.

    Wish I had never sold mine.

    #10 3 years ago

    It is strange how Bally went from creating the best of the best to largely forgetable titles practically overnight.

    #11 3 years ago

    Bally had good games in those years, but it's days of having blockbuster hits ended with the 1983 combining with Midway/Bally.

    Bally started buying things like Six-Flags Amusements, health club chains, casinos........and finally had to start selling off divisions (like pinball).

    #12 3 years ago

    EBD is the only one I would consider a blockbuster. My opinion.

    #13 3 years ago

    Strange Science is... Good. I like it. I'd have it.

    Quoted from vid1900:

    Bally started buying things like Six-Flags Amusements, health club chains, casinos........and finally had to start selling off divisions (like pinball).

    You know, I always wanted to know if that was the same Bally that made pinball machines. Never knew that.

    Whats funny, is the walk in freezers that we have at the amusement park I worked at when I was in high school had "Bally Engineering" stamped (with a placard) on the door. The word "Bally" was even stylized the same way as the pinball company.

    #14 3 years ago
    Quoted from mg81:

    I don't think it is a "must collect classic", but Eight Ball Champ is a very enjoyable pin that I would like to have in my collection.

    I prefer EBC to EBD.

    #15 3 years ago

    City Slicker would be a classic if they had made more. Terrifically fun game.

    #16 3 years ago
    Quoted from swampfire:

    I prefer EBC to EBD.

    You must be joking.

    #17 3 years ago
    Quoted from SealClubber:

    EBD is the only one I would consider a blockbuster. My opinion.

    EBD was 1981. The other dates were reissues.

    #18 3 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    Bally had good games in those years, but it's days of having blockbuster hits ended with the 1983 combining with Midway/Bally.
    Bally started buying things like Six-Flags Amusements, health club chains, casinos........and finally had to start selling off divisions (like pinball).

    We can thank two idiots, Bob Mullane and Roger Keesee for wrecking all of Bally in only ten years.

    #19 3 years ago
    Quoted from mbaumle:

    Strange Science is... Good. I like it. I'd have it.

    You know, I always wanted to know if that was the same Bally that made pinball machines. Never knew that.
    Whats funny, is the walk in freezers that we have at the amusement park I worked at when I was in high school had "Bally Engineering" stamped (with a placard) on the door. The word "Bally" was even stylized the same way as the pinball company.

    That was a unrelated Bally. Similar logo but not the same. They were based out of Bally, Pennsylvania. Now in North Carolina. They also go under the nameBally Refrigeration.

    #20 3 years ago

    Vector and Motordome are ok. A little weird, but not BAD games. But yeah, the hits stopped in 81.

    #21 3 years ago
    Quoted from MrBally:

    Similar logo but not the same. They were based out of Bally, Pennsylvania.

    Thanks for the clarification! Now that I look back on it, I can see that the logos looks almost nothing alike. I guess my mind just associated the refrigeration units with the pinball logo.

    #22 3 years ago

    I love Strange Science and Dungeons & Dragons. They were doing some crazy shit near the end there.

    #23 3 years ago

    Spectrum is a fun pin. This was the last Bally from the early 80's with great artwork.

    #24 3 years ago

    Fireball Classic. Heck, classic is in the name.

    #25 3 years ago
    Quoted from Jimmyd044:

    Spectrum is a fun pin. This was the last Bally from the early 80's with great artwork.

    Spectrum was "too smart" for pinball and did not make any money for us at all.

    #26 3 years ago

    Just in 82. Anything after that is meh!

    #27 3 years ago
    Quoted from MrBally:

    That was a unrelated Bally. Similar logo but not the same. They were based out of Bally, Pennsylvania. Now in North Carolina. They also go under the nameBally Refrigeration.

    I had no idea this was the case. Wow! Interesting!

    Edit: I re-read the post and see y'all were talking about refrigerators and not pins. My bad.

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    #28 3 years ago
    Quoted from swampfire:

    I prefer EBC to EBD.

    Quoted from dasvis:

    You must be joking.

    Uh, no. EBD has better art, but EBC is a better player. I know I'm not the only one who thinks this.

    #29 3 years ago

    Spectrum, Vector, Special Force are noteworthy but imo it was Williams that actually made some classics during that era...Space Shuttle, High Speed, Sorcerer, Grand Lizard, Comet, Pinbot, F-14, Fire.

    #30 3 years ago
    Quoted from swampfire:

    I prefer EBC to EBD.

    I think you might want to lay-off the crack pipe.

    lol

    EBC isn't even in the same league as EBD.

    #31 3 years ago

    Have ebc still looking for ebd spent many a quarter on ebd never saw ebc in the wild

    #32 3 years ago

    EBC vs. EBD shouldn't be a discussion we're even having; EBD has one of the greatest, best-implimented rule sets ever. The art is good, but doesn't wow me like Centaur, Fathom, Embryon, etc. However, the rules make it one of the absolute best risk/reward titles ever.

    #33 3 years ago

    There's a reason why EBD was made three times and to date remains the most sought-after Bally SS pin of all-time.

    It's the pin more people want in their collection than any other from the era.

    #34 3 years ago
    Quoted from Collin:

    EBC vs. EBD shouldn't be a discussion we're even having; EBD has one of the greatest, best-implimented rule sets ever. The art is good, but doesn't wow me like Centaur, Fathom, Embryon, etc. However, the rules make it one of the absolute best risk/reward titles ever.

    I like both games but EBC with home rom has more going on. Lady Luck and Beat the Clock are fun too

    #35 3 years ago
    Quoted from Gatecrasher:

    There's a reason why EBD was made three times and to date remains the most sought-after Bally SS pin of all-time.
    It's the pin more people want in their collection than any other from the era.

    I also like EBC more the EBD. EBD is too much "been there, done that". EBC is really unique and more of a shooters game. Both have great art packages.

    #36 3 years ago

    See, I'm not the only one.

    #37 3 years ago
    Quoted from Silverballer:

    Spectrum, Vector, Special Force are noteworthy but imo it was Williams that actually made some classics during that era...Space Shuttle, High Speed, Sorcerer, Grand Lizard, Comet, Pinbot, F-14, Fire.

    yep. once they developed sys11, williams produced some awesome games
    (the 3 sys9 games are good too)

    #39 3 years ago

    Beat The Clock is fairly unique.

    #40 3 years ago

    The Champ (EBC) can still hang with the big, new boys!!! Currently playing at The High Dive in San Diego.

    I enjoyed playing it so much that I am picking up a project EBC next week. I also have EBD in the garage being fully shopped out. Everyone will be invited over for the head to head showdown when they are both done!

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    #41 3 years ago

    I'm partial to Party animal and Truck stop, but truck stop was the first merger game between Bally Williams.

    #42 3 years ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    The Champ (EBC) can still hang with the big, new boys!!! Currently playing at The High Dive in San Diego.
    I enjoyed playing it so much that I am picking a project EBC next week. I also have EBD in the garage being fully shopped out. Everyone will be invited over for the head to head showdown when they are both done!

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    Hey, that's mine Funny you should say that as it out-earns Metallica there...

    #43 3 years ago
    Quoted from wiredoug:

    what do you think of vector?

    never played it
    but when it is mentioned on pinside, it is usually "Great game, when it is set up right'
    which to me sound like, 'it looked great so I spent hours cleaning it up, so I keep trying to justifying to myself'

    #44 3 years ago

    And when Freeplay40 repros the ramps, and CPR does the plastic set, I will be a happy man

    #45 3 years ago

    In Pinball Magazine No. 3 I looked at Bally's heyday and tried to find out what happened that they went from building some of the most manufactured pinball machines of all time (Eight Ball, Star Trek, KISS) to disturbingly low production numbers compared to what they did in their heyday. Roger Sharpe was able to clear a lot of that up, which is an interesting read. Having Tom Nieman (also featured in PM03) leave the company resulted in Bally dropping licensed themes. The videogame boom didn't help pinball in general either. Someone told me recently there was a 9 month period in the '80s in which no manufacturer came out with a new game. Haven't checked if that is correct.

    #46 3 years ago
    Quoted from PopBumperPete:

    ...sound like, 'it looked great so I spent hours cleaning it up, so I keep trying to justifying to myself'

    some days thats my view on pinball in general.

    i have a vector in pieces.. one day ill get time to finish it.. its a cheesy mix of busy playfield and bad sounds .. it really is pinball trying to be a video game. n.b. ...'trying'.

    took me ages to find a truck stop .. really looking forward to that arriving.

    #47 3 years ago
    Quoted from PopBumperPete:

    but when it is mentioned on pinside, it is usually "Great game, when it is set up right'

    Vector flippers, when set to the factory angle, make it tough to cradle the ball.

    So the ball mostly remains in motion, rather than a constant cradle-study-aim-shoot

    People cheat and set the flipper angle up higher to make catching the ball easier and file down the coil stops to make it easier to cradle. This is NOT how the game was meant to be played.

    People also put a full size flipper on the upper playfield to make it easier. Again this is incorrect, ( verified by the designer, Greg Kmiec).

    So, yes, Vector is a great game when set up correctly.

    Unfortunately, I never see it set up correctly at the expos....

    #48 3 years ago
    Quoted from MrBally:

    That was a unrelated Bally. Similar logo but not the same. They were based out of Bally, Pennsylvania. Now in North Carolina. They also go under the nameBally Refrigeration.

    That is correct. They still have an office in Bally PA, btw - I used to maintain their PBX.

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