(PS : as i will wrote more than just 3 lines, sry for my bad english, its not my native language... and to moderators feel free the move this in another section if needeed)
ok, after having read this topic (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-dialed-in-phone-scoop-protector-from-mantis), i think it was better to create a new one
first of all, the subject is NOT about Cliffys ! tribute to him for what he does (and same to other guys/similar companies, as Mantis), all these products are quality made, and for sure making the job for most of pin owners...
than, this topic is from my personal point of view, i'm a player, not a collector
let's go than
* THE SIM CARD HOLE :
got my DI since end of 2018, than 7 monthes home to play it
never get to SHOWDOWN, the further i was (about SIM cards) is collecting D-I-A-L-E-D and having I-N in blinking state (pin is on factory settings BUT with carrying SIM cards from ball to ball)
from what i can read here & there, and also while playing my pin, i get to the conclusion that the protector is without a doubt a cause of lot of rejected shots
giving a more closely eye to it talk for itself...
few days ago, i get the opportunity to beta-test the 1.70 coming code, this push me to clear all the audits and give a clean to my pin (which was not dirty but ok), while i was there, today was the day i decided myself to finally remove the protector from the SIM card hole...
having "2 left hands", must admit all was finally quite easy, i broke nothing lol
i've watched the SUPERNOVA video to install the protectors and than do it in reverse... btw, pay attention as its not complete (...) about removing the left ramp : there's another screw at the top, not only the 2 at the flap entrance... if you forget that one at the top and lift the ramp you'll get a nice CRACK on your ramp... not funny :/
now open to operate...
PF + clearcoat are of course perfect under the protector, its installed from factory, pin is HUO...
while putting back the 2 metal posts, i added a washer under, to try to not damage the clearcoat...
all is back in place...
not sure about the rubbers, as if you just see from the angle of the upper flipper shot, the left one is +/- 2 mm in the way, and still may cause some miss !?
the right one is not a prob
will play/test as it for now, but may be i'll have to put a smaller rubber on the left, or even remove it (but than will for sure wear balls more quickly)
and than, very early conclusion :
- played 1 game before replacing the glass and the pin in his place, played +/- 2 minutes as it and for balls being near the upper flipper i only did try to shot them in the SIM card hole... got it 4 times quite easilly !!!
- than with pin all set up back, played another game "normally", which means with strategy and aiming for what must be aimed (lol) : scores 2.2M, lighted 4 SIM cards, and collected... 4 SIM cards
OK, i'm statistically still nowhere, but on my own, i know already i will enjoy DI much better from now
* THE PHONE SCOOP
of course, also got rejections from the phone...
than yesterday, i decided to bend the metal plate over it
i just say nothing to my son, and than he plays some games
he direcltly noticed and told me that the scoop was easier to get !? ... BINGO just what i wanna hear, as yes, seems as an evidence that bending it is a real plus, not only to go in, but also when ball is ejected, trajectory seems more "natural" (for sure this is of course also linked to the power of the coil)
as you can notice, this protector is way more flat & right on the PF level than the SIM one, i'm still not decided to remove it
btw, with bending, its way much better, but there's still another prob
and watching pics is easy to understand : if a ball is not perfectly right in the middle trajectory, the small metal board will cause it to jump, with a rebound on the plastic post, mostly causing an air ball (which i get often)
than seems logical to me, if i remove it, no more airballs there... actual dilemma
may be some feedback, someone already tried it ?
you to know what to do, if you're a player, or if you're a collector...
btw, cant say how much time DI will stay home (because i have to swap my pins when i wanted to play another one), but from now will check the PF state/wear, linked to the audits
tanx for reading
edit : title changed, i wanna talk about PROTECTORS, not about who made them...