Hey guys. I ordered an LE today. I’m really late in joining this club but I’m super stoked! Can’t wait to have this in my collection.

Reading 89 pages in this thread will take a while... Would some of you please give me your advice on any recommended/needed protection & any great mods for this awesome game? The only one I know I’ve read about many times is the SIM cliffy. Have some of you installed a topper? Maybe the laseriffic? Your thoughts? I’m assuming picking up a CE topper is a no go.

Thanks in advance

Of course I looked at the topic index..
And there's nothing about any of the questions I asked dude

It's not on your website. When's it available and how much?

These look cool! I have their powerbladez on my MET and they are awesome.
https://www.pingraffix.com/product-page/dialed-in-pinball-powerbladez

I disagree. I think art blades or mirrors look much better than plain black paint

Thank you. I appreciate it

Ha!

I officially joined the club yesterday! LE#289 is in my gameroom now. Born on date is 4/26/18. I’m loving this game. It’s just awesome. Really fun to play!

I have some issues right off the bat.

Number 1 is this terrible static speaker noise no matter what volume the game is set to. I called JJP and they are sending me one of those in-line noise isolators that others have posted about. I have a hard time believing that this will completely fix the problem. The noise is loud. I’ve checked all connections. I connected an external amp and speakers to the motherboard (no noise). So this tells me it’s the cable or the sound board and not the MB or audio out jack. No noise through headphones either. I need to try swapping the audio cable between MB and sound board next to rule that out.

Number 2 has happened only once. Both displays went blank during a game. The game continued as normal. I turned off/on the pin and the displays powered back on. I’m hoping this doesn’t happen again.

Number 3 is strange. The selfie camera takes new pictures only sometimes when I enter in a name for high scores. Sometimes it will display an older picture from a previous game. Really weird.

Number 4 is no big deal. I can’t get my Samsung S8+ to connect to the pin. The app refuses to connect. I’ve tried multiple times. Not that I’m gonna be playing with the phone, but I just wanted to try it.

It took me a while to find the theater magnet settings that you guys have posted about. I was looking for a magnet power setting. That was the mistake. The adjustment is not power, it’s a delay in milliseconds. For anyone else looking, it’s in the test menu. Mine came really high from the factory (-30 I think). So far -90 seems to be working pretty good along with the magnet behavior set to “normal”. I tried the lab test mode too but couldn’t see any benefit.

So far I like the lower flippers at power 21 and upper flipper at 17.
The slingshots don’t have a power setting. Strange. They have another time delay setting. What are you guys setting these at?

Junky

Thanks. I installed one this evening also. To my surprise it completely fixed the problem. Sounds great now. JJP should just install these at the factory.

Thank you. I’ve been messing with the camera settings. It seems to be working a little better but it’s still not 100% by any means.

Awesome! I haven’t verified yet with Cliff but I’m assuming our games have his protectors installed from the factory.

An update for you guys.

The terrible noise is gone after installing the in-line ground noise isolator. I’m stoked!

The bubble pitch level on my cab is off. The playfield pitch between the slingshots was actually 7.5ish at the recommended “bubble edge touching the second line”. I’ve since lowered the actual pitch to 6.5 and the bubble edge is between the first and second line now. The game is slow for my taste but I’m gonna play more and see if it’s ok. This is especially true after playing a game on my super fast Star Wars!

Now that the pitch is less I’ve messed with the theater magnet some more. I actually prefer the magnet delay at -30 (which is how it came from the factory) instead of the -80/-90/-100 as others have posted. At -30 it catches and then throws the ball up consistently. And I have not removed any mylar, yet.

Earlier I mentioned that the backbox screen and the phone screen went completely black. This happened a second time now. This time during attract mode. I’m assuming they are powered off. I will call JJP tomorrow. I’ve read others talk about the phone going blank, but not the backbox screen too.

I will report back.

Junky

I recommend that you check your pitch angle with a digital level on the playfield. My NIB game's bubble level is off.

My understanding is yes, it's supposed to be 6.5 degrees at the recommended "bubble edge touching the 2nd line". Mine was not

I posted about this earlier. My new LE did this twice in the first couple days

I ordered the new topper by mezelmods this morning. Looks awesome. Can’t wait to get it!

I installed a big 12” subwoofer last night. Having standard audio connections makes it super easy. Love it! Thanks JJP! If anyone here is interested I can post more info on cables/connectors that I used.

Have any of you found pinball covers that fit over JJP backboxes? I haven’t yet.

Junky

After a phone call to JJP I learned something and thought I would pass it on to you guys. I wasn’t able to find any info on pinside on the specifics of the daily high scores feature. I was curious as to when the new “day” begins. My daily high scores include scores earned from the previous day. And yes, my date/time is set correctly.
Turns out the daily high scores are not actually the high scores that are accumulated during that day. Each time an individual score is recorded, it is held in memory for 24 hours. Once that 24 hour timer expires that score will be deleted from the list.
In my opinion, it would make more sense to wipe the daily high scores at 0000 each day. That way the scores are actually from that day.
This is obviously NOT a big deal. Just wanted to share.

On another note, the BOB trap door stopped closing on my new game. Test menu showed “trap door broken”. After some searching I found this video

Bending that metal tab completely fixed the problem.
Junky

You're welcome. You are absolutely right. Having the option to set the time would be great.

You're welcome

Mine is the same. It's only on the right side. Only 200 plays. Born on date 4/26/18. It does NOT feel as if it's worn. Looks like it's in the printed artwork and not from any wear at all.

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I highly recommend it for home. Code is pretty deep IMO. It's already polished and feels complete. There is new code coming soon that will add even more to it also. I say get one!

I see your points mrgregb123.
I guess for me because there's a lot to do (many modes with required combo shots, many different multiballs) and because getting those damn sim cards is such a challenge, I feel that the coding is pretty deep.
I completely agree that TSPP and TWD are deep and complex. Especially TWD. The best coded game IMO.

But MET? It's a good game and it's fun. I own one. But it's not deep.... Repeatedly hitting the same target over and over and over....

I think maybe the phrase "deep coding" can be interpreted differently by different people.

Today I moved/separated the Crazy Bob signs (along with backlighting) and added Pinblades.
I'm stoked!

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Thanks man. I can't take credit. Mezel sells the kit.
Here's a pic with them lit.
The station is lit up underneath blue also but it's pretty dim compared to the other lighting.

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You just need to take your time with it. There is enough play on either side of the playfield that it will not scratch the decals

Call Lloyd direct. He's great.
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IMO the best is light extra ball

2 of the 3 drones stopped spinning their propellers on my new LE recently. I called and JJP promptly sent out 2 new ones. I installed them yesterday. All fixed!
Excellent.
Hopefully this isn't going to be a reoccurring issue with these tiny electric motors. We will see.

For me it was the black and silver drones. The white one hasn't had an issue. Both of them had power but wouldn't spin the propellers. The LEDs worked. JJP didn't say what the cause was, other than bad drones. The replacements work perfectly. You should definitely call JJP.

On mine there were a few times the ball was stuck on the left lane. It wasn’t the Cliffy causing the issue though. The rubber ring around the slingshot was fat enough to hold the ball. I stretched the ring and this seemed to have made it slightly smaller which no longer held the ball. Thought you might want to try this.

Junky

With other brands I recommend pinnovators sub out board kit connected to RCA inputs on the subs. I have them on all of my Stern’s.
With my JJP Dialed In I added 3 parts. A headphone “Y” cable from the PC audio out to a long headphone cable to another adapter (stereo headphone to double RCA) to the sub. The Sub has a crossover so it will filter out the high frequencies. This is clean and sounds great.
Junky

I just think this game is already epic! Any additions in coding is just more icing on the cake. Love it!

Mine is the same. I figured out an easy way to get the playfield in. Once I get the playfield in as far as I can normally, then I use my hands/fingers to push the rails forward while also pushing back against the inside edge of the coindoor opening. Hope this helps.

I would go ahead and install your mirror blades. I have pinblades without any issues. I'm assuming your pin is like mine. It's not difficult because of width. The playfield doesn't want to slide forward all the way (easily).

Junky

Anyone here have any inside info on the next software update timeframe?
How about the printed manuals?

Junky

Completely agree!

Ok wait a sec. Order it? I thought all LE owners were just going to receive one. We're supposed to order one?

That's funny. It looks like they only placed the phone case on top of the glass. Doesn't look like a mod to me.

WTF???
I totally thought this was a joke

Yes and no..

JJP started off with making their own version of Cliffy's. Then Cliff made a bunch of his real protectors for JJP to install on new DI's.
Now JJP is back to making their own again on POTC.

Junky

Great news! I've got the new Mezel Mods topper waiting for me at home. Once I'm back home I will install it and post some pics.
I also got an email from JJP today saying my manual was shipped!
Yes yes yes!

Mezel Mods Topper installed!
Hell yes

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So far I've replaced all 3 drones because the propellers stopped spinning. They didn't all stop working at once so I replaced them individually as they failed. Everything was great for a little while.

And now all 3 have stopped working. Uggghhh!!
This time it appears that they all failed at the same time. They're getting power because the LEDs work. I called JJP again and left a voicemail.

Have you guys had similar issues?
Thanks

I agree. However I do notice when I’m watching someone else’s game. Either way, they’re supposed to function correctly

New code looks great!
Anyone know when it will be available for us? (Besides after expo)

Junky

I just received the manual this week. WOW! Very high quality. I’ve never seen a nicer pin manual.

I definitely make the SIM card shot more from ricochets than from the upper flipper. That’s a very tough shot.

So....
It's after expo now. When will the new code drop??
I have no patience

Code Update????

If you haven't yet, you need to enter a support form on the JJP website and for case type select DI manual.

As per Frank, JJP is currently working on a more permanent fix. I’m on my third set of drones now. My recommendation is to contact Frank and have current replacements sent to you for the time being.

So far so good with the update! Love it!

While watching the video above I see that the bottom right corner shows "balls to go" with actual icons of the pinballs remaining. I don't remember seeing that on my machine. Is this a new option in the menu?

Nevermind. I found it

After playing this new code for a couple days now I can honestly say this is my favorite pinball machine now. It really feels polished now. I just love all of the different ways to play the game. Going for the Quantum Theatre multi-ball is a blast. I love all of the new sounds too. This is an absolute masterpiece. The best! And believe me I've played a shit ton of pinball machines.

Mine did this twice during the first couple days after I bought it new. This was on the older code. Hasn't happened since.

I now have this same error message. I unplugged the bluetooth adapter from the usb extension cable and then plugged it into an open usb port on the computer and then powered on DI. No more error. This tells me the problem is the usb cable. JJP is sending me a new cable.

They’re actually great sounding stock speakers IMO. You should DEFINITELY add an external sub though. I use big 12” subs on all my pins. They add a lot to the audio. And as a bonus, JJP games are the easiest to add subs on. The audio out jack on the PC can be “Y’ed” and sent to the sub. Easy Peasy.

Try connecting your BT dongle directly to an open USB port in the backbox and see if it’s recognized. That will tell you if it’s the dongle or the usb extender that’s the issue. My problem was the extender. And this problem began after the latest update also.

For those having playfield seating issues, my suggestion is to lower it down and then reach in through the coindoor. Grab the rails and push forward while using fingers/wrists/forearms to push back against the coindoor opening. The playfield should slide forward allowing the hooks to drop in place.

Junky

Yes. Use a "Y" single 3.5 mm male to double 3.5 mm female splitter from that same output. Then run a cable to your powered sub low level rca inputs. You'll need a 3.5mm to dual rca cable or adapter

Yes! Ted released another new beta today. 1.57 is available for testing

It’s 2 shots on the virtual targets in the theater to start each of the theater modes (4). Starting the theater mode (X4) qualifies the Multiball.

Example. Spider standup, virtual spider, spider standup, virtual spider, spider spinner theater mode (qualified)

Hope this makes sense

The manual says it’s supposed to be 3 shots on the virtual targets but the default is 2.

Junky

That took me a minute to get the joke. At first I was thinking what the hell is that guy talking about? Funny.

And, I think that AFM topper looks surprisingly pretty good on DI.

Call again. They’ve been very good about replacing drones. Unfortunately I’m on my third set now. I’m assuming these will fail too and the next set will be the updated versions.

So I guess 1.60 was released on the 12th?? Not sure how I missed this. I haven’t read any posts about it here. I’ve been running 1.57 for a month now and loving it.

JJP website says..
“==============================================================================
== Version 1.60 December 12, 2018 ==
== 1.60 ISO image MD5 checksum: 69e5af7d43af7f8455ca048c40584af8 ==
==============================================================================

- NOTE: This is a FULL INSTALL release

=== Game Code

* Fixed ability to cancel Disaster Mode intro phone call by hitting both flippers
* Fixed occasional game reboot when multiple high score champ entries made
* Fixed trap door updater to close door when awards are not available
* Adjusted usage of drones
* Polished up some lamp, speech, and music choreography
* Fixed airplane banner and UFO animations

=== Core Code

* Fixed UK pricing presets

=== OS

* Support for newer motherboards”

I’m curious about the drone adjustments. Awesome!

Junky

I’ve played about 20 games on 1.60 and thought I would chime in with my thoughts.
If you’re hesitant about updating, don’t be. It’s fantastic.

-I see no issues with any animations.
-Transitions during gameplay seem somewhat smoother to me.
-The drone propellers seem to be spinning less frequently than before during a game but they work fine during test mode. I’m assuming this was changed to try to stop the little motors from burning out because SO MANY people have had to replace them. I’m on my third set now myself.
-I had to adjust the value of the theater magnet timing to make it throw correctly. I’m at -150 now.
-When you have qualified but not collected more than one SIM card you will see the correct amount of flashing DIALED IN letters. Before only one letter would flash at a time. I like this change.
-When you flip to cancel the beginning of multiball you will still hear “now you’re dialed in” and see the white LEDs flash. I like this too.
-I think some new disaster mode animations and audio were added. I’ve seen a few new ones.

On a completely unrelated side note, I noticed in the settings that you can adjust how aggressive you want the magnet behavior during multiball. I’m sure it was there before but I didn’t see it. The default is EASY. I changed mine to DIFFICULT and I love it! It makes the magnets A LOT more active during MB. Awesome!

This A+ pin keeps getting better.

Coil tests. Scroll down.
Highlight the drone you want to test and press start button

1.61 Beta is out. Seems to run perfect for me.

Ted is the man!

Nick "junky"

What are the display problems you are seeing? Maybe I need to look closer but I'm not seeing any new issues. As far as the video being played on the phone I've thought it was slow from 1.56 on.

Thanks

I have my BT dongle in an open usb port on the motherboard. No error message and no video lag.

With mine I ended up using -150 after the update. Works great

I plugged mine into the motherboard. The error went away

My opinions...
DI doesn't TRY to be a modern classic because it IS a modern classic. It's a complete Lawlor masterpiece that's full of little throwbacks or tributes to some of the VERY best Bally/Williams pins in history. It shoots fantastic and smooth. It's very difficult to master so it keeps you pressing start. Great animations. Amazing lightshow. Lots of "toys". It's built like a tank too!
No, it's not based on some old rock band. No it's not based on a comic book, TV show, or movie. It's got it's own unique theme. Which means some people just won't like it.

Junky

LTG.
Would you please give us/me your input on slingshot strength? I’m convinced that the slingshot coils are weaker after the recent couple updates. I don’t notice any difference after adjusting the values in the coil settings from 30 (minimum) to 60 (maximum). 48 is default. Furthermore, what exactly do these numbers mean? On the left it says slingshot strength and on the right it says “time in milliseconds”. If it’s a timing setting I’m thinking that 30 would means it fires the coil faster than 60 would, but this has nothing to do with strength.
Please advise.
Thanks

I appreciate your response. Thank you.

I didn’t mean that I couldn’t remember what my settings were before the update. I’m saying that no matter the value, the slingshots are less powerful now.

“60 gives you a bigger WHACK”
Not trying to be difficult here, but this makes no sense to me. How could a coil strength be measured with a time value?

Thank you very much for chiming in Ted. I appreciate it.

I'm on 1.61. I think it's great

I have had no phone problems with mine. And 1.61 runs fine on mine

Thankfully the LEDs are on the front sign. The crazy Bob's sign that is facing away from the player doesn't have any LEDs on it. I recommend the mezel mods kit that separates the two signs and makes them both face the player. Plus both of them are backlit as well

Go into switch test mode and press your flipper buttons and see which other switch is registering. You probably need to just adjust a leaf switch somewhere that is making contact and giving you the points

Easy. No ball traps so far. I asked mezel to send me an inline dimmer for it too

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Leave your playfield level. Yes there are adjustments for the magnet timing. In tests. You will have to test multiple times. With the glass off in test mode throw a ball into the theater. It should catch the ball and throw it up and around. There are multiple posts in this thread with timing settings that have worked for others. You will have to see for yourself.
Also, cut your mylar off the magnet core and adjust the core height so it's level with the magnet surround. This is also posted in this thread.
Good luck

Yes. Mine does the same in Volcano mode. Most of the time QED guy moves over to block the ball from draining SDTM though

So when is 1.70 going to be available?
Did they add the drones propeller usage back in? On 1.61 they hardly EVER spin.

A delta update from 1.60/1.61 should save your high scores

1.73 is great. No video lag on my game. I haven't seen any issues after playing about 10 games on it. I see no reason for people to wait to update.

I would give Kristin at mezel a call. She's very friendly and helpful.

You didn't say new or used. I'm wondering if a previous owner had turned down the lighting in the settings. My DI is nice and bright

Since I have my DI right next to my POTC as well I thought I would take a couple pics for you to compare. Now that I'm looking closer I have to agree with you. The middle of the playfield on DI is definitely darker than Pirates. I've attached two pictures, one is attract mode with the inserts lit and the other is during play.

Nick

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I highly recommend removing the mylar from the magnet core in the theater and then adjusting the magnet throw timing. In test mode if you throw the ball into the theater the magnet should catch it and then throw it up and around

Time delay. How long the game waits to pulse the magnet after it releases the ball. Too long of a delay and the ball rolls too far down so the magnet can't attract it to throw it up. Too short of a delay and the ball won't be pulled up. The ball should roll down slightly and then the pulse should pull it up. Try default first and make small changes (10-20) to compare. With a normal pitch and a level game the magnet should throw it correctly the vast majority of the time in test mode. Especially with the mylar removed from the core.

Ok...
I'm pulling my hair out with this update/wifi/scorbit.

My DI will NOT stay connected to my wifi network, or save the wifi password. So frustrating.

It connects and everything appears to be working in the menu.

Then I open my scorbit app. I scan the QR code, or find my venue and my game (see pics). Then the app changes to a blank white screen and stays there. Then I check the network settings on DI and it shows no network connection. AND my password has been forgotten.
I have to keep entering in the password each time.

I've tried reinstalling 1.75.
I've tried deleting the game and venue from the scorbit app.
I've tried reinstalling the scorbit app.

Anyone else have these problems?

Any help would be appreciated

Junky

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Update..

I got everything working. I guess the problem was the USB Wi-Fi dongle plugged into the USB extension cable at the cash box. Once I was able to pull my dialed in out of its location and access the back box I tried using the Wi-Fi dongle directly connected in the motherboard. The machine is saving the password and staying connected to my Wi-Fi now.

But... for about 20 minutes the scorbit app on my android phone would not function correctly even though the machine was still connected to my Wi-Fi. The app continued showing a white screen each time I would try selecting my game.

Now when I start a game on the machine it allows me to claim the player and then the scorbit app functions correctly. I'm not sure what changed on the app, but everything is working now!

I must admit having unlockable challenges on a pinball machine is a cool new concept. And how fitting for it to be on a dialed-in machine. A++

Thank you to those who reached out and tried to help.

Junky

Is there any benefit to updating the dialed-in software to 1.75 beta 2 over 1.75?

This feature is pretty awesome in my opinion.
As you play a game your name is displayed next to your score (instead of the generic player 1, 2, etc).
I didn't expect this feature. Love it

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In a future update can you add the functionality so that it automatically displays your name on a one player game? Right now it only shows it on a multiplayer game

Try a 2 player game

Tests, Device Tests, Theater Magnet

You will have to test how it works on yours to determine what's best for you. I have mine at -130 with the mylar removed from the top of the magnet.

On another note, I recommend doing a settings backup and restore (in utilities) whenever doing a software update. You may have wiped out your own theater magnet setting when you did the update.

Junky