Nah, couldn't dislodge it, was a glass off moment.

What does everyone think of the JJP scoops protectors? They are much thicker than cliffys, a few of us who got machines this week in the UK are noticing ball damage and scratches on the playfield. Not sure if the balls had these imperfections before playing or if these protectors are causing it ( or something else causing it? ).

Do you have to enable the camera

That would be mine I guess. My phone screen appears to be dead, I've updated 1.13>1.50>1.5>1.13>1.5 but it's not working. I've even swapped the VGA cable over with the Theatre and had the phone image on the theatre screen but nowt on the phone. Got to go to work now so will have to trouble shoot tomorrow. Looks like the phone screen itself is faulty or not getting power ( the backlight of the LCD screen isn't even lighting, so its solid black, not backlit grey or showing blue no signal screen ). Other connectors leading to the screen ( power and cat5 ) all seem to be in place.

Anyone know how to ' edit selfie label ' , I'm putting my name in and it says press start to save but it does nothing. I'm hoping this is how you don't have to keep putting your name in after a game? am I misunderstanding what this option is for? Isn't there a way for the machine to recognize you and put your name in automatically?

Thanks guys, so my request for facial recognition to automatically add your name isn't a thing then? at least not yet?

Are there any spare/accessory power connectors on DI?

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I understand you can cancel multiball start somehow? How? I've tried mashing the flippers but multiball just starts quicker.

Thanks guys

Mine did exactly the same.

Am I correct in thinking if you have 2 sim cards ready to collect you have to hit the sim scoop twice? 1 hit doesn't collect both?

My screen went blank after updating and never came back. Currently waiting for a replacement.

As I mentioned previously my smartphone screen died just after updating to 1.5 having only owned the machine a day or 2. I'm still waiting for a replacement but in the meantime I get to hear the ' Here's your new phone ' and ' we have detected a problem with your phone ' callouts every time I play ..Bastards!

Anyway, I was wondering what skillshot everyone plunges for? has anyone developed a strategy for which to choose? there doesn't seem to be one that's the one to always go for ( like in LOTR for example ). I usually try to go for the points but for no other reason than I haven't worked out why/when you should go for any other choice.

I've adjusted my trapdoor mech a few times, seems not very sturdy to me, i. e. Made out of thin easily bent metal.

Anyone else had a right ramp shot take the entrance between the left loop and right ramp rather than make the ramp? I just had a very well hit right orbit/ramp shot complete the orbit and come back down the left side where it had ridden up the wall high enough to take the route into the left orbit. If you've looked at this area closely you'll understand what I mean, may not make sense otherwise. I'm 100% sure it's not supposed to do that, you would swear there was a diverter there the way it completed the loop.

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I've just fitted my replacement smartphone and all is well. I've read others ask about the animations on the phone screen but couldn't relate before because my screen was down, now I'm noticing some of the face animations not running. For instance the sergeant major type guy who talks during the meteor mode, I've seen that mode start with just a static image of him but sometimes with him animating. Glitch/bug? Also does the scientist that talks during singularity animate? he didn't for me just now.

Interestingly the colour of the LED's around the phone are much stronger on this replacement phone, the blue much bluer and the green much greener, but the red is the biggest difference, on my old one the red was orange, I noticed the difference immediately.

That setting only affects the times the magnet does ' catch and toss backwards ', not when it does ' catch and release '.

The day after getting my machine I decided to adjust the flipper button switches as they didn't feel right. I found the screws holding the switches to the cab were loose so I tried to tighten them. I found 3 of the four screws had been over tightened on installation and stripped the screw holes. The right switch was barely holding on but getting more and more unresponsive. Matchsticks in the holes time. Awesome build quality. Feels like a new starter on the Jjp line problem.

The mode start animations not playing properly on the phone needs fixing. Previous posts in this thread have suggested not all animations are in there yet and there's more to come but I'm pretty sure I've seen them all run properly, seems it's just 50/50 whether they load and run or just display a static image.

Do the mode start animations run 100% of the time for anyone?

Thanks, that's good to know.

Probably a stupid question but....during lottery frenzy it says on the screen ' lock 3 balls for multiball ' or words to that effect. Is that another multiball? i.e. different to the standard multiball, monkey wrench, drone or QED? I've never achieved it and it actually seems quite unlikely during the short lottery frenzy time. Or am I completely misunderstanding it?

I believe it's the number of sim cards collected ' your phone has been upgraded to level 2 ' etc....

JJP still aren't setting the trap door up correctly after all the reports? .

The Gem shot is MUCH easier than the sim shot, I can hit the gem shot maybe 1 in 4 or 5 attempts but the sim hole? Thats no better than 1 in 20. Near impossible to hit on purpose/at will. If I've collected 200 sim cards only about 10 of them were direct shots.. If that.

Nice one Wayne

It's not looking good for the longevity of the phone, mine failed the day after getting my machine and was replaced but there's just too many instances of this. Hopefully they've identified the problem and sorted it out with whoever supplies them.

Pull the balls out of the machine and check them very closely for imperfections. A load of us in the UK had this happen, tiny little raised rough bits on the balls. I noticed mine getting scratched after only 3 or 4 games, checked the balls and found them rough. Swapped the balls out and no further scratches. Either the balls were already damaged or they were poor quality and got damaged, possibly by the scoop protectors.

No, not normal but experienced by a few of us in the uk when we all got our machines. At first we were doubting the clearcoat but soon the rough balls were found and we all ditched them. Go check them really carefully.

Understandable, I was too. I caught mine with only a few scratches and you can't really see them unless you look closely. Someone else said they successfully polished most of them out ( probably with novus ).

Did you find the balls rough?

The imperfections I found were tiny little raised spikes, imagine a grain of sand stuck to the surface. Too small to see but could feel and once found could feel it with thumb nail.

I replaced mine with stern balls ( not known for their quality either! ) out of my Ghostbusters while I got new balls, and the scratching stopped immediately. Also the stern balls didn't receive damage when in DI. Some owners blamed the jjp scoop protectors damaging the balls, maybe some balls are harder than others. I'm not saying that's what's happened. As for oil on the balls, you are supposed to clean that off before use, it said so on the packaging.

Definitely bend the scoop down as per advice above, I went through this a few weeks ago, tried various scoop eject power settings but in the end it was just the scoop bending backwards over time. I believe the steel isn't thick enough because a day or 2 later I had to bend it down again! It's really easy to bend, no tools required.

Nah it's not normal. I've had 2 NIB's, GB pro ( an early one so no ghosting luckily ) which doesn't have any of these scratches, and DI which had deep scratches near the flippers after only 3 or 4 games. Swapped the balls, no more scratches. JJP balls either already damaged or are soft and got damaged in the machine. 500 plays now, 4 with JJP balls scratching the playfield, and 496 with stern balls causing zero damage.

I can't, I can only relay my experience with DI balls, and other UK owners who all got machines at the same time and were scared shitless that the clearcoat hadn't cured....then we changed the balls and lived happily ever after.

Step through the LED test, each individual LED can be lit 1 at a time, including those running around the phone.

I have mirror blades installed, they are tight though.

Well spotted, just checked mine and that edge is very exposed, I’ll be bending mine in.

If you look at the charged phone you'll see the currently available disasters, when you flip you'll see that you're changing which one is lit. Hit the scoop with the disaster lit you want to start. Bare in mind when you flip it will move one place so select one disaster to the left or right depending which flipper you use ( same as how the ring modes are selected in LOTR )

It is great but the trouble with making it even more dramatic is the ball is usually still in play when you hit it, it's hard enough keeping an eye on the balls or balls as it is

I'm confused about mantis too, never owned a machine with one and why protect the inside of the hole?

Another update would be nice about now to fill in all those missing animations.

Is there anything else on the to do list? where is the list?

I could shave with the lockdown bar or the side rails on my DI standard edition.

Am I correct in thinking a lit sim card ( but not collected yet ) is lost when getting to Chaos in Quantum city? I just reached chaos with 2 collected sim cards and one ready for collection. I hit the sim hole during chaos but it wasn't collected, then when the mode was over the sim waiting to be collected was gone. 99% sure that's what happened, hope it's fixed in the future.

On my machine the mylar over the magnet cores melted and bubbled in no time at all, probably less than 50 games. May as well cut it off immediately. Leave it on the playfield though, just cut it off the core.

That has happened to me a few times too. I think its the same problem as sometimes a right ramp shot will somehow rattle and not make it all the way. Like you say, the ball must be bouncing up and taking the exit. Its a poor design in my opinion, the way the left orbit connects to the right ramp.

Sounds stupid but try bending the scoop down, I've experienced the same problem. Over time the scoop lifts and the ball starts clipping the underside of the wireform from the right ramp to the right inlane, this deflects the ball enough that it catches the slingshot. It happens so fast you can't really see it. I've had to bend mine back down twice now, to me the metal just isn't thick enough to maintain its position or it should have been braced. You can literally just push it down with your thumb.

I don't know the answer but as you've posted such a good photo of that switch I'd like to add that it's not in an ideal position ( by design ), it's too close to the ramp. A fast ball can clear or semi clear it and not make the switch therefore not award the ramp shot, I've had it happen plenty of times. Dial the flipper power down you say? doesn't matter, you still get a fast shot now and then when hit on the fly or a rebound.

I find it annoying that if you've hit the sim hole or the bob hole ( the ball thus ending up in the phone scoop via the subway ) shots to the phone are pointless. So in multiball when you're trying to get an add-a-ball and a ball enters either of the other 2 holes first a shot to the phone scoop will not register as there's only 1 opto there already detecting a ball. 1 or 2 more optos in there would have fixed that. Never mind, doesn't happen THAT often so no biggy.

I can't believe they're still shipping machines with those shitty balls! We all went through this months ago, clearcoat getting scratched to fuck within minutes of playing because of the crap balls. FFS Jack, sort it out!.

2...I did, I put a 1" round mylar where the ball drops, you can't even see it unless you look for it.

3...I believe you are correct.

It's pretty ridiculous that machines are still coming out of the factory with the trap door setup issue

Mine was the other way around, my first phone which lasted 2 days had orange, or at least very pale red leds. The replacement was much more vibrant, the red being very red. I noticed it instantly.

Another possibility ( that happened to me ) is if the ball is clipping the slingshot it may be catching the wireform that passes overhead because the top of the scoop is straightening over time. In that case just bend it back down slightly so its missing the wireform.

Got mine from Mezel mods, happy with them.

Agreed! It's dragging on now Do JJP only have 1 coder?

Love the topper, where did you get it from?

Add to that the switch at the top of the ramp ( a few inches down the wireform ) being too close to the peak of the ramp and you then have a switch that can be missed by a fast ball ( if you are lucky enough to get a fast ball not to reject ). Pretty poor design.

I cut thin strips of double sided tape and stuck the cliffies down when I installed them, they've never raised.

Is it safe to install the latest code at the moment or is the video lag still a possible issue?

JJP are going to have a huge revenue stream once they stop sending these phone replacements out for free!

You aren't the first and won't be the last to do that. I did it to TSPP a while back.

Is it safe to install the latest software yet? a few people were getting out of sync animations on the phone iirc.

My DI took about 5 minutes to boot today, I've no idea why. I couldn't give it my full attention as was busy with other stuff but I did see some text on the theatre screen. It looked like it was going to fail completely but booted successfully in the end. Also played fine. Anyone had this happen?

I got a spare ramp flap/door from Jjp when mine broke off a few months ago but I've never fitted it, having it missing doesn't seem to affect the game at all and there's no sign of wear either.

Any clue as to what will be new in 1.7? if it was just a bug fix release they wouldn't bother streaming it. Can't wait, mine has been getting hammered lately.

I think its just a case of which display was detected first.

I'm sad to say I've installed 1.71 ( had to install 1.6 first as never installed that due to reported phone screen lag ) and now I have the freaking lag!!. Some clips were still running in slow mo about 5 seconds after the voice had ended . Surely I'm not the only one? It seems to be at its worse when a mode is completed and the final voice clip of that mode is played.

Whats the best way to report this to JJP? through the support form on their website?

The phone screen lag seems worse when there's lots going on, multiball and a mode for example, like the cpu/mpu can't keep up with everything it's being asked to do.

I managed to catch a little phone lag on video. I've seen it much worse than in this clip though....

Will these issues be picked up by JJP from this thread or do we need to report to JJP somehow?

2.8 Celeron here . However, removing the BT dongle ( thanks Lermods! ) seems to have almost completely fixed my lag issue. I think there may be just a little bit of lag still at times but it doesn't stand out like it did prior to removing the dongle. I do feel a little bit annoyed that there are DI's out there with a faster cpu though . The main screen also seems to be displaying smoothly now too. Is it actually possible to replace the cpu with a faster one or is it a different socket/bios issues etc? anyone ever tried it on a jjp machine?

A ' disable bluetooth Dongle ' option in the menu would be nice now to get rid of the annoying boot error with it removed, no one actually uses it anyway!

One thing I don't really like about the new update is when a mode starts there's a pause after the phone clip plays before the ball is kicked into play. It's not a huge pause but I don't think there was a problem here before, the ball was kicked back into play immediately the voice clip finished. There seems to be a few other times it holds onto the ball just a little bit too long too, I haven't made a note of exactly when but I'm finding myself frequently thinking ' what are you waiting for? give me the ball back! '. Seems to be the opposite of polish to me.

Anyone else notice this?

Not to dwell too much on the negatives though, I'm really enjoying the new code. The Chaos light show is no longer seizure inducing. The new name entry tune is nice. Quantumn and Chaos play much better now. I notice there's a line on the news feed about chocolate bars being found with golden wrappers or something

It would be nice to hear from jjp on the slowdown/coils issue ( I personally haven't noticed the coils issue, and I'm a fussy f***** so I guess I don't have it ) but I do have to leave the dongle out to get almost synced phone video.

Really? I have daily scores turned off otherwise you're constantly putting your name in.

About time JJP spoke up about the CPU/slowdown issue although if they acknowledge it I guess they'd have to do something about it ( or not! )

Loosen the 4 nuts on the back of the monitor holding it onto the arm bracket, re-position and re-tighten.

That curved piece on top of the phone scoop should have been braced, I've had to bend mine back down 3 times now.

Installed 1.73 on my machine with Celeron cpu, all lag gone even with the bluetooth dongle reconnected. Anyone else notice flippers seem weaker after the update? I had to up the power on mine.

I got a replacement from jjp but have never fitted it, machine doesn't seem to suffer without it. I guess there's a tiny chance a ball rolling slowly up the left orbit could sit in the gap but it's never happened to me, and a ball search would probably free it if it did.

I cringe every time I hear/read that! The idea of setting a machine up anything other than level just doesn't sit well with me at all!.

My guess is the ball is hitting the wireform that passes overhead because the scoop hood has bent up. This has happened to me twice, had to push the scoop back down. It's hard to pick up as the ball moves so fast but if it just touches the wireform it deflects it.

I think those are neither, they look like JJP's own protectors that they fitted to early machines before making cliffy's available.

I have Cliffy's fitted to mine and I'm happy with them but no idea how they'd stand up to location play. Never tried mantis.

In my opinion the right ramp switch is positioned too close to where the wireform meets the ramp, a really fast ball can get a little air and miss the switch. You can try adjusting the switch or turn flipper power down.
If the ball from the scoop is catching the slingshot, try bending the top of the scoop down. I believe it straightens over time ( it's not braced on the back )which leads to the ball catching the wireform overhead and getting deflected. That's what was happening on my machine anyway. You could also adjust the scoop power.

Alternatively, if it is broke ( the ramp flap ) don't fix it!. Mine broke off 2 years ago, I have a replacement but have never fitted it, the machine doesn't suffer at all leaving it off.

I guess you're trap door must be set slightly above the playfield.

I just turned my Dialed In on and the main screen is out. This happened a few months ago, some connector re-seating got it working again ( may have been a co-incidence ). Tonight I can't get it back to life at all. Tested 12v at the DC power connector. Tried 2 other sources to it ( my laptop and Nvidia Shield TV ) via HDMI but nothing. Seems the thing is dead. Anyone had this before? is there an internal fuse within the monitor? Will I have to get a replacement from JJP or is the monitor available elsewhere?

I just switched it on again 12 hours later and it's working! There must be be an intermittent fault with the monitor. I don't know whether to be happy or annoyed, yes it's working ( now! ) but it could fail again at any time. I was about to take the DVI output to another monitor just to prove the machine itself is fine, I guess I'll do that next time but I'm sure it's the monitor as it didn't work at all with other sources fed to it.

That didn't last long, yesterday it started playing up again. This time I connected the computers DVI output to another monitor via a DVI to HDMI adapter and it worked fine so it's definitely the monitor. I removed the monitor and took it apart, nothing obvious was noticed. Re-seated ribbon cables within the monitor and looked for loose connections/bad solder joints but nothing seen. There are 3 caps on the board although I'm not sure a 5 year old monitor should have failing caps, I might try replacing them anyway. Refitted it and it's still the same, sometimes works fine from boot, I even managed 4 games without issue. Turned off, then back on later and no screen again. I've asked my distro to get me a price from JJP ( I'm in the UK ), I'll ask local electronic repair shops or I may try changing the caps.

Mine is more of a power up thing not signal, if you turn it on with nothing connected to HDMI or DVI it should come on and say no signal. Mine doesn't even do that when it's not working, just dead.

Following on from my last post, the monitor eventually stopped working altogether. I tried but failed to find a decent local repair shop willing to have a go at repairing it. It's 2 weeks since I asked my distro for a price from JJP but he thought it would have to be at least £300 or £400, I'd guess probably even more now. I took a chance and bought a 27" monitor off Amazon ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0B4WHT2DL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and it works great. Of course mounting it was the main issue, I managed to use the original backplate with some extra brackets to make use of the VESA mount on the new monitor. Using the original backplate meant I could use the pivot arm and the side latches so all is good.

Not pretty but functional. I'm sure someone could make something better.

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Amazing game of Dialed in, well worth a watch ( warning...well over an hour! ) from the UK Open 2022 semi final match.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1607154875?t=08h08m10s