Damn! And on a Friday!

Other thoughts on DI code:

Last shot of subway door smash could maybe not catch the ball, but let the ball roll though because the door was smashed open.
Could use a daily lottery winner scoreboard

DI is kind of a new game to me, but I know development is basically done. Just wishful thinking.

Rob

Really? I have daily scores turned off otherwise you're constantly putting your name in.

Jersey Jack got it. They didn't want you messin' with that

I see your point, but it doesn't have to be a daily score.

Rob

I swapped the processors. From the weak Celeron to an i5 4670. No problem at all, just follow the pictured instruction from Coindropper.
After first boot you need to press F2 on a connected keyboard. Then don't be afraid by the password request. I just ignored it and rebooted (turn off and on again). The next boot was successful without any irregularies.

Hardware infos shows the i5...

- Betty spotlight is a little bit flickering, but nothing compared to before.
- Videos are all totally in synch. Even with the bluetooth dongle installed back below the playfield. No slow down at all during all modes and in all combinations with extra ball, big bang, multiball, modes, etc. just perfekt.
- coil power - consistency is really improved. I would say, if I was not looking for it, I would not have noticed any abnormal behaviour. The phone scoop kick out is almost perfect, if I flip all fingers during kick out in fast frequence, it seems to be a bit weaker, maybe the speed of the ball also differs a bit, but it is definitely not all over the place. I had not one time it did not kick out or something like that. So really improved.

I did boot the machine about three times, and played several games after each boot up. So far no problems at all.

I am not sure, if the faster cpu is just covering a driver bug or something similar. But in the end of the day, I am much happier now with the faster cpu. Definitely worth the 70 euro (for me).

Great info! Really looks like the faster CPU with better GPU compensates something...

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Well that’s good news! So 2 for 2 on the processor swap. You’re absolutely right on it being a bandaid covering the flaws in the code, but I’m happy that it at least gives us the ability to play on the newest code without issues.

Yep. Totally agreed!

Just updated. Everything is fine. Got 3mill on my first game on this code.

So you did not have to swap out the processor?

And are you running the celeron?

No. Haven't been following all that talk.

Don't know what that is.

i'm running a CYRIX P166+ !!! and i have just done that :

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I had one come out the other day ,when I wasn't too happy with my last game.

You say a 133 MHz single core processor is enough to run the game?

Problem solved! Turns out, the relocation of the machine must have tugged at the connections in the backbox. The connector at J602 on the IO board had been pulled at one of the corners, causing it to lose connection with pin 10 (the escape button). Unfortunately, by that time, all our testing at the molex connector near the coinbox caused one of the connectors to come loose. So we had to take a quick trip over to Fry's to find and replace the damaged pin. Oh well - it wouldn't be pinball if fixing one thing didn't break something else! But, all good now.

I also took the time today to build and install the DIY lighting mod, using the tutorial below. I wound up adding the lights to the bottom too, and used LED's that are a little brighter than the originals, but I really love the "pop" from the fully-lit translite. Thanks so much to @lyonsden for the idea and general parts list. Looks great, and huge difference in the lighting (see the difference in the picture with my son playing with the factory lights!

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/diy-guide-to-adding-backbox-lights-to-dialed-in

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lol no ! it was a nostalgia-joke linked to our CPU talks...

btw, the combo hi-score is real of course, done yesterday

So, I finally had a day to tackle a bunch of issues. Trap door hitting, and as much as I tried, my bad hand could not unscrew the coil to drop a nut in.
So I used 2 clear sticky dots for cabinet protection, after cleaning the underside of the Ramp brace with alcohol and a q-tip.
Works like a charm, and much easier. I dont know how long it will last, but a solution for someone with trigger finger,

Next up was an update. Would you believe from 1.50 to 1.57! Nice!!!!!

However, when pulling the Blue Tooth Dongle Out, it shredded and Components fell off.
Is the Dongle proprietary, or any specific specs to replace?

After a Wax, New Balls, and Rubbers....Boy What fun I am having!
(Not so easy this weekend to do)

During eruption when you shoot the theatre — is the ball supposed to just drop straight down? Is stickman supposed to block a sdtm or the magnets supposed to mess with the trajectory so it doesn’t go sdtm? Nothing is more agrivating than a theatre drop sdtm — is there by any chance ball save setting for this???

On 1.71 the default behavior is to drop the ball and QED blocks it. The only mode I know that purposely drops the ball without QED blocking is EMP and then I believe it's supposed to be the magnets that alter the trajectory of the ball. Except on my game, the magnets rarely, if ever deflect the dropping ball. There is no Theater ball save, but it would be nice to have.

Rob

Ok — yeah, I think emp is what I meant. Damn, so annoying— I’m always on edge when shooting that shot, expecting to have to give the game a good nudge to try and save a sdtm.

Does anyone think 500 points per shot for theater modes seems a bit low? Do the shots count for increasing jackpot scores in QTMB? I'm always shooting these modes, but the shots just don't feel rewarding in terms of sound effects, lighting and points. I wish these were a bit more lucrative, like growing in value a bit the more you make (and maybe start at 1000 points instead of 500).

Rob

Just stack emp with Multiball. Choose another mission if it's not possible and play emp later with theatre Multiball for example. The game is much easier if you choose the right mode at the right time generally.

when you know you've just played a very good 1st ball... but you also know ball 2 & 3 will s*ck !!! and indeed they did lol

i love pinball

Actually I’ve never focused on what rotates the mode selection.. what rotates it?

With the quantum little mini modes - spider, train bash, etc — does a certain number of shots ‘defeat’ them for bonus points or are they just strictly on the timers and that’s it?

Flipper Buttons

The flippers change the mode selection.

The mini modes are on a timer. I wish the rules and scoring were better for these minor modes.

Rob

You have to finish drone captive balls, train bash, spider spinner and kilowatt drop targets to start quantum theatre Multiball. They are activated with drone target, ramp, spider target and QED guy hits with an immediately theatre shot afterward. You can use Bob Multiball as well and also stack them with the main Multiball... There are a lot of possibilities, just play more and have fun

Question - anyone decapitate a dialed in? I need to move it and it weighs a ton. Hobbit was not too bad but I know the CPU is in the head now...would it be easier? Harder? Anyone post a step by step yet? Thanks

Lol can’t believe I hadn’t noticed that yet. Thanks!

The minimodes seem to take several shots to the spider,ramp,etc and immediate theatre shot right after to activate the ‘mode’. Maybe on the 3rd one?

And other boards.

LTG : )

Anybody with an early production game (Celeron?) do the latest update and not have any of these kickout / video lag issues? Still sitting on 1.57, all works great... but man kind of a bummer I can't have the latest and greatest code.

I bought my DI used and it had about 3000 plays on it. The clearcoat seems to be very robust on this game compared to any stern I have bought. It does seem thicker and far more dimple resistant than most recent stern. I'll include photos of the high wear areas so you can see how it's held up so far. It's apparently had the sim hole protector from day 1. There's factory mylar around the phone scoop and cliffies on the inlane drops. There was also mylar on the drain hole.

I did remount the sim hole protector because the leading edge was lifting up. After a bit of an adjustment and some 2 way carpet tape on the leading edge, it's working well. It does not seem to really affect balls entering the hole. I created a support ticket on the JJP site and am getting the phone scoop protector sent which is nice.

Rob
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Yeah I was looking at mine the other day and thinking the same thing about sterns pfs— no doubt there is still dimpling but the craters seem way smaller. Could just be all smashed down but it’s only huo so it doesn’t have *that many plays on it. One thought is that ball speeds maybe are slower a bit. The flipper strength seems turned down on DI compared to a new stern. Are other people able to consistently backhand the left Betty ramp? It’s rare I can make it..

I still haven’t understood how to reach the Quantum Theater MB. I reached it several times but I never understood what triggers it exactly.

Just read my post above. Theatre mini modes are timed out. Hold a ball and look at the status report. There is a whole screen that shows you the way to QTMB.

Played about 50 games with the new cpu, now. No issues with video or coils.
Had a new grand champion with almost 10m points including Armageddon and showdown.

I am happy with the 1.71 sw and the new cpu.

Nevertheless there is room for improvement. Showdown needs an end instead of just continue with normal game mode...

Did you use the stock CPU fan that was already in use in Dialed In?

If yes, then it could not a heat issue. Either it‘s he faster CPU or faster GPU I n the chip.

Yes. i sm using the fan that was already installed. from the specs it should be sufficient and I did not order a new one.

I am not an owner, but I just want to say that I really love this game. I made a huge mistake judging it by the theme early on. I played some Wonka and Hobbit at Pinburgh this weekend, but I just wanted to go back to DI. I liked Wonka a lot though too, don't get me wrong. But DI is just one hell of a layout and game experience!

Today I had a few times the feeling the phone kickout was a little bit weaker, again. Still nothing compared to the fluctuations with the celeron, but still something to notice, when looking for it.

So I still think the source is not the cpu, but the faster cpu seems to compensate it.

your sins are forgiven... lol

Me too. I realized my mistake and now I own one.

I made that mistake too. I wrote the game off based upon the artwork and theme. I'm still not a fan of the playfield art with the red shirt guy, but it's not horrible either. I don't even notice that any more. I got a used one not knowing if I would really like it or not, but I've been playing the heck out of it and having a lot of fun in the process.

Rob

Hey guys I was cleaning the playfield glass and applying lightly some wax barely even touching the playfield the plastic on top of the drone magnet is lifting off a bit what should i do ?

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Cut it off the magnet... same with theater magnet

You mean the mylar directly on top of the magnet? You can remove the round piece directly over the magnet. It will eventually get chewed up anyway,