After more playing, I do see a bit more of what some people are talking about. For example on a game I just played now, the second animation for Alien Invasion played slow just like a previous posted video showed. Is it always the same videos that are affected or is it random?

I don't know about weak coils though. Everything seems mostly consistent with nothing standing out as being a glaring issue. The phone kickout seems mostly consistent as well as the kickback, but I might need to adjust timing on it a little.

The Betty lamp flickers during attract mode - maybe that's by design. Is it a lamp or flasher? I don't think this is an issue at all.

The drones remain very disappointing....

Rob

+1. 100% agreed!

Everything else is nice, but this fix is necessary and a MUST!

Someone in the google group mentioned the flickering betty light might be on purpose and was introduced in version 1.57 to simulate a faulty advertisement spotlight. So this might be as designed.

Nevertheless the coil inconsistency cannot be on purpose, imho.

Just upgraded from V1.6, followed instructions on JJP website, game updated successfully, and it told me to remove USB and restart the game. I did that, and now it doesn't boot.

Game shows the JJP logo and 5 or 6 silver balls under it, then main screen just stays blank and phone screen has white on the display and stays like that permanently.

PLEASE HELP - no idea what i can do?

I would go for a 1.60 full install and retry the delta to 1.71.

utilities/ hardware info

The lag with the animation can be resolved by removing the Bluetooth dongle. However, I think you’ll get an error when booting that game can’t find the dongle.

I have 1.57 and mine doesn't flicker?

4/2/2018

The only difference is the CPU speeds.

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My processor: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/87356/intel-pentium-processor-g3260-3m-cache-3-30-ghz.html

Your processor: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/80800/intel-celeron-processor-g1840-2m-cache-2-80-ghz.html

Mine is a 3.3 vs 2.8, so it's faster, which might explain why I'm not experiencing any of these similar issues.

Updated from 1.57 to 1.60 to 1.71 yesterday. Game is playing well. During the "EMP" strike mode I noticed a bit more magnet action which prior to updated seemed to always result in a drain down the middle.

If anyone has an issue creating a 1.60 ISO I recommend trying Rufus.

https://rufus.ie/

I’m getting the video lag pretty bad on mine on 1.71. Very noticeable, it even happens on the main display.

That said I’m going to leave it. Game is fully playable like this.

Also the 3.3 GHz processor in my machine (but still at 1.57). Maybe we can nail this down - what processor speed do the people with coil or lag problems have?

Then I would give it a try with 1.71. If it is the processor, you should be fine and get all the improvements. If you experience the problems, you can easy go back and restore all settings and highscores and we get much more information if or if not the processor is the source of the problems...

Thanks,
Lars

Slower processor in my machine, coils inconsistent, in rare cases delay in videos, with BT dongle directly in backbox
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Celeron 2800 MHz processor in my game. Definitely going to stay on 1.57 until more info is reported.

not only the speed, but also the PENTIUM vs the CELERON ! may be we have a clue here...

EDIT : not sure as diff is very limited :

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G3260-vs-Intel-Celeron-G1840/m31434vs2849

+1

tanx in advance for trying it, as this could help without a doubt...

and i would have tried by myself, but pity my son's collection "old CPU" did not have nothing (better) to put on that MOBO socket... :/

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lol

2.8 Celeron here . However, removing the BT dongle ( thanks Lermods! ) seems to have almost completely fixed my lag issue. I think there may be just a little bit of lag still at times but it doesn't stand out like it did prior to removing the dongle. I do feel a little bit annoyed that there are DI's out there with a faster cpu though . The main screen also seems to be displaying smoothly now too. Is it actually possible to replace the cpu with a faster one or is it a different socket/bios issues etc? anyone ever tried it on a jjp machine?

A ' disable bluetooth Dongle ' option in the menu would be nice now to get rid of the annoying boot error with it removed, no one actually uses it anyway!

I'm seeing the video lag and inconsistent coils as well. My D.I.L.E. is older than yours, serial Number: 8721282.
I too wonder if the motherboard socket is the right configuration to just swap the CPU, and how much the faster CPU costs.
Even better- would JJP be willing to swap them for us early buyers?

A first look showed the cpu is no longer available. Only used at ebay. Price below 100 bucks.

The board should be able to handle it, no idea about the fan etc.

Cheers
Lars

No issues with mine. No real delay to complain about. Kickout coils regular enough. I do have a later build date. On the new update, the attract mode now scares the beejesus out of me when I walk by it with the volume turned up.

would you be so kind and have a look in the hardware info in the menu and check the cpu type?

Thank you very much,
lars

Before this ends up being a real issue, I'd like to know from JJP whether future software updates will always be tuned to accommodate both older and newer CPU/motherboard combinations. Now it looks like version 1.60 and up are great for the owners of the newer machines, but maybe less great for the owners of the older machines. Are the older machines at the limit of their technical capabilities?

One thing I don't really like about the new update is when a mode starts there's a pause after the phone clip plays before the ball is kicked into play. It's not a huge pause but I don't think there was a problem here before, the ball was kicked back into play immediately the voice clip finished. There seems to be a few other times it holds onto the ball just a little bit too long too, I haven't made a note of exactly when but I'm finding myself frequently thinking ' what are you waiting for? give me the ball back! '. Seems to be the opposite of polish to me.

Anyone else notice this?

Not to dwell too much on the negatives though, I'm really enjoying the new code. The Chaos light show is no longer seizure inducing. The new name entry tune is nice. Quantumn and Chaos play much better now. I notice there's a line on the news feed about chocolate bars being found with golden wrappers or something

I also have the LCD/sound sync issue with the new update. It's disappointing. Not sure if I'm going to downgrade yet.

I have the Celeron processor, and have also tried playing without the Bluetooth dongle installed. The sync issue is still there.

They should never have upgraded the cpu mid production. That is just asking for inconsistent software performance. The only good solution would have been to upgrade the older machines. Bad, bad move JJP. To me, it feels like the company is ignoring problems because there are quite a few with each of their games and the fixes will be expensive. Love the company and my DI (1.57), but I’m pretty pissed that I have been punished with weak hardware because I ordered fresh out of the gate. Never again. Next time I’ll wait at least a year.

You never know what happened, though. They probably order parts in bulk, and during their purchase in the final stages of building DI they realized they could buy the upgraded CPU for the same price.... or maybe Intel ran out of the other CPU and gave them the upgraded 3.3Ghz ones, etc.

You shouldn't hate JJP for this. If they had installed all 2.8Ghz processors in their machines, you'd be happier?

I have the same problem now....

Ugh. I have the 2.8 Celeron processor. I guess I'll wait to update until this can be verified as the problem or the software gets fixed.

Here is a link to the mobo compatible processors. I have an i5 coming for $119 to replace. Just Make sure it’s on the compatibility list.

https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/H81M-P33#support-cpu

Sorry i'm late to the party. So are we not suppose to load the latest code?

And double check that it is an LGA1150 socket cpu. They have more options cheaper as well. And you may have to reinstall and connect a keyboard when changing cpu configuration. I changed the ram out and had to do it.

I have a 2.8 Celeron processor as well. I checked my Hobbit and it also has a 2.8 Celeron processor. So … If JJP offered up a decently priced replacement motherboard upgrade to fix it, maybe I could use the old one as a spare for Hobbit (if they are indeed compatible). I may look further into that if the CPU upgrade turns out to be the solution.

No need to replace the mobo, just swap cpu and thermal paste. Much easier than swapping the board and cheaper. The board is just an MSI H81M-P33.

Unfortunately that's not going to fix the neutered drones.

Rob

http://159.203.76.48/di/DialedIn-v1.50.iso

http://128.199.38.78/di/di_update_157.zip

Thank you!

Got fast response with instructions from JJP to completely re-install 1.60 and start over again. http://marketing.jerseyjackpinball.com/general/install-full/

Keep us updated on the switch. If you took pics or filmed some of it, that would be great.

Let us know if it works

You may potentially encounter an issue with a cpu swap that you need to work around.

If you think about the system requirements and steps you'd take if you were doing this for a normal pc you'll understand why.

I just happened to coincidentally have a compatible cpu sitting here.

And i don't think the cpu is the issue as the difference between the two listed is fairly small.

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hint : have you tried getting into the mobo bios on a jersey jack machine yet?

Would be interesting what pc motherboard and processor do machines built in 2019 have.

NO DI machines built after 2018 so far

Couldn't agree more. For me, 1.71 seems to have improved the random coil strength problem slightly, but it's still an issue, and the video syncs are _absolutely_ worse.

I'm running a 2.8, so I may wind up calling JJP to see what my options are.

As a test I installed the software on an old i3 dell laptop. Have to use the dongle from the backbox to make it work. And the bios work around isn’t a problem.

I was told when I bought mine that I had one of the last ones to be built, which was early 2018.

Mine was built in April 2018 with the 3.3. I was waiting to see how things go before updating. For me JJP replaced all three of my drones and asked me to go to 1.6 as a condition. Currently running 1.61 but other than the drones not working as much, everything else is fine. Actually the Betty light is slightly flickering.