Might be up your particular pin. My daughters who maybe played pinball 50 games played in her life, she played DI yesterday and hit the phone shot two times in one game.

Because it's a blast to play, enjoyable shots and when you get the sim card shot you actually have the great feeling of achievement. For me games that are too easy become boring very quickly and this game does have a lot to offer, all of which will take a while to achieve.

I agree with the SIM card shot, but the phone scoop? I suck at pinball, but I can backhand that shot from the right flip and make that 99/100 times.

Scoop is very easy to make from both flippers, ok the simcard is difficult but I do make that shot at least 6 out of 10 times. I have my machine perfectly level and at 6.5' pitched. A lot of times you can play pool and bank it in off the left ticket target too.

I can understand the Sim card arguments, never heard of bounce outs from the phone shot though.

I like MM, awesome game but for the price of a new MMR I would rather have (and did buy myself) a Dialed In LE. MM still has its original ruleset which while fun gets repetitive in my opinion after a while. This is the same reason why I sold TZ, most 90's pin rulesets just don't hold my attention for long. To be fair I had my TZ for nearly 10 years and just wanted a change up, still an amazing game (as is MM).

I never thought I would do the 180 that I did on Dialed In. I wasn't impressed by the reveal and it was until nearly a year later that I seriously started considering buying one as so many people started to praise it by then. I've had my Dialed In LE now for about 3 weeks and absoustely love it, what a great game. DI feels like my TZ but with all of the new tech and ruleset offerings (and then some) of a modern game. Very impressed.

i did not said that i could not do it (like sim card shot) but sometimes i need to hit it 5-6 times to succeed it. so i give up and do another shot before coming back later.
anyway, if you can pass these inconveniences this is a very challenging game (but not sure this is a fun game)

That’s how I feel too.

We have both. I love them. But it’s DI and not even close.

i have no problem with that and am as happy for you as i have no regret
i love my MM but i'm not the only one as my kids give always the preference to play it.
and i have enough in my line-up to enjoy playing pinball without any kind of frustration and not get bored of my MM

i don't know if the issue is coming from the side wings of vuk bracket but i had exactly the same experience as you.

Gives us an update on your thoughts from Lloyd's after you had played both...

Its a tough decision. For me, MM was my grail game. Always wanted one, but was not about to pay 15,000.00 for one. When they remade it, i had not choice. Seeing as you own AFMr.. MMr is too similar in my opinion go for DI

Wonder if he is storming the castle or being dialed in right about now

Hurry back! Ralph

I adore my MM but it seems a little redundant unless you adore the theme.

Played a brand new DI this week right out of the box and after 5 games I had my fill. The shots are fine but nothing stands out as a amazing feeling shot and the closer left ramp feels so close. The moving sparky guy is fine and flashy lighting wise but to be honest sort of slows down the flow for me. It seems faster than other jjp games but feels so slow compared to newer sterns. Best of luck and personally I would wait to see Bryan Eddie's new game layout and theme, not like you need to rush to get either of these games by 12 tomorrow or else.

Drop Woz and get both!
U cant make a bad choice here.

It's more challenging and the shots are very satisfying. That is the short answer.

Because it's new.

Deepthroat?

I've had Dialed In for almost a year now. At first I played it a lot because it was the new game. I've since purchased GOTG, TSPP, WH20. I still like DI the most from a gameplay perspective. The theater is awesome. With the magnet it makes that shot a drop target, captive ball, orbit, ball scoop, spinner, etc. The game pisses me off more than my other games because the combos you have to get, sim cards you need to collect, or big bang you want to hit can blow up your score and when you drain, barely miss, or run out of time you get frustrated that you were ALMOST there. It makes you want to hit the start button and try again.

It's Pat Lawlor's amalgamation of all the great things from his previous games. It has that stop and go style, but doesn't feel like flow is disrupted.

In regards to MM: You have AFM. It's a super similar game in a different skin. The castle toy is great. You won't go wrong if you own the #1 rated pin of all time. I just think DI is a lot better.

Haha, it's coming... allegedly

I have arrived,my name is now a bad word.

I owned original versions of both MM and AFM at the same time and couldn't agree more. MM and AFM play so differently that I never felt that I had two pins that were too similar to own at the same time. Had them together for quite some time.

Thanks for the invite. I'll try and make it.

LTG : )

Thanks.I got a kick out of some of the post that were made, while I was missing. My favorite one was."Maybe he was murdered at 11:59

Nice job. You can have one in your home tomorrow if you like. Let me know how I can help.

Always good to see you. I hope your visit helped you make up your mind !

LTG : )

On my DILE the back hand is impossible. It catches the right sling. Never found a solution. But I can hit the shot consistently enough from left flipper...

I shared exactly the same scoop experience as colonel_caverne - Sim was 100% unmakeable from a direct shot. Phone would literally pop out 5 times out of 10. Direct shot or backhand. And this was with real cliffy cliffy’s.

But the phone shot didn’t piss me off as much as the sim, just because to get decent scores you had to get sims. Multiballs were pretty worthless by themselves. Pretty much everything was worthless if you couldn’t get sims.

I considered removing the cliffy’s altogether, but was hesitant because I literally played 10 games when I first got it before installing cliffy’s, and both scoops began to chip.

But the other thing is the game is emotionless - has no soul.

So instead i sold it and am 2 games into buying 4 older games to replace it for the same cost and am loving those. They got soul.

Having said that, I can completely understand why so many love it and can appreciate it is an incredible piece of Pinball tech with a near flawless layout.

For me, the game is much more fun with the setting that preserves SIM cards across balls. I really think this should have been the default. Will be interesting to see if they switch it in the next update.

Your comment about "no soul" is interesting. I don't feel that way. For example, the "Big Bang" shot that completes a mode is amazing. And when it goes in the SIM card hole immediately after hitting "Big Bang" it's magic. Game has some humor and doesn't take itself too seriously. And the amazing flow alone is soulful DILE was my first JJP pin and I'm glad I waited...for me, it's as good as it gets (and I've owned a fair number of games).

I also think they nailed the difficulty level on DI. Great balance that appeals to a spectrum of players. I bought SWLE at the same time as DILE and it, OTOH, is painfully hard. The ornate use of timers/sounds, funky multipliers, etc. I pulled in the pegs and the outlanes and still have a bitch of a time keeping the ball in play. I really want to like it, however just don't have fun with it most of the time. Oh well.

snaroff

Agreed - should be default. No cliffys, and preserved SIMs would have made a big difference. Someone get Pinball browser to work on JJP’s system, so we can change the sounds and I’d probably buy it back.

I can backhand my phone scoop every time and make sim shot regularly. Wonder y u can on some and not on others. I cld see di being frustrating with those issue's

because you play well and they suck.

Wow weird. never payed an LE though

DI adjustments are so numerous, so specifics, so different from one place to another, from one player to another that not a single machine plays like another one

BOTH!

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I own both. I would get Dialed In.