Estes Park, CO
Quoted from o-din:They really messed up not calling it "Quantum Sleep"
How about "Quantum Failure : Lawlor's Lament"
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Dialed In
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The name is not important to me.
I don't think I can relate to someone who would not buy it due to the name and then does buy it with a new name and exact same art etc.
"Dialed in Sucks.... Hey, I'm totally buying Mr. Disaster Guy"
I can relate to people who won't pay $9,000.00
"$9000.00? Holy crap no way! ... $8,000.00? Still no way!"
Breda, Holland
Quoted from Nevus:The name is not important to me.
I don't think I can relate to someone who would not buy it due to the name and then does buy it with a new name and exact same art etc.
"Dialed in Sucks.... Hey, I'm totally buying Mr. Disaster Guy"
I'm just going to leave this right here... 
Quoted from Circus_Animal:I can see why operators would have a problem with it, if it doesn't entice people to play on location. The majority of their customers are not pinball enthusiasts and they rely on things like name and theme to get people to put credits in.
There's no guarantee that they will hold their value. Look at how prices have skyrocketed in the last few years for both new and used games. There's no reason they can't move in the other direction just as quickly. Then there's the market value of specific titles; take Ghostbusters. The game is known to have extensive QC problems which will likely make potential buyers wary (even if the machine in question has no apparent issues), forcing down the price on the secondary market. What if Heighway really takes off and full-featured games become readily available for ~$4000? Will people really still pay $9k for Dialed In or Batman? Finally there's the opportunity cost; a $5k game sold in 5 years for $5k frees up $4k to be invested in something that will almost certainly produce a profit without speculating on the price of a single pinball machine.
If it doesn't entice people to play on location?
The game hasn't seen the light of day on location!
We have no idea how it will do.... in fact, I can tell you as a fact that kids are absolutely obsessed with cell phones... obsessed in every sense of the word. One glance at the art work of of the guy holding his phone high in the air, a visual of the phone inside the machine, or seeing selfies taken of other people playing and they'll be hooked and wanting to play.
The name is only going to reinforce that.
Dialed In! might not satisfy a chunk of pinsiders, but Pinsiders aren't remotely closed to representing the general population.
Melbourne
Do you guys realize what effect you have on the design team of pinball companies, no wonder pat didn't attend the autograph session at expo after reading all the pinside posts.
Put 3 years of your life into a game and see this crap about his game.
I think the name is great, people call and already say, I want to buy dialled in
Quoted from Ballypinball:Do you guys realize what effect you have on the design team of pinball companies, no wonder pat didn't attend the autograph session at expo after reading all the pinside posts.
Put 3 years of your life into a game and see this crap about his game.
I think the name is great, people call and already say, I want to buy dialled in
I don't think anyone here is saying the game is crap....in fact, I played it at Expo and liked it. I didn't love it, but I did like it. The thread here is just about the packaging....which is not necessarily all Pat. Part of being a designer of anything is basking in the glory when you hit a home run, and taking the criticism when you don't. You can't have it both ways, and if pat didn't attend the autograph session because folks were critical of the release...well then he is a bad sport in my books. If he isn't willing to take the bad, then he shouldn't be taking any of the good. I think most that played the game are happy with it....the packaging just needs some work. Trust me, feedback is a good thing. If they just threw it out there and didn't care what anyone thought, then they would be ......well.....Stern. lol
Quoted from 27dnast:If it doesn't entice people to play on location?
The game hasn't seen the light of day on location!
We have no idea how it will do.... in fact, I can tell you as a fact that kids are absolutely obsessed with cell phones... obsessed in every sense of the word. One glance at the art work of of the guy holding his phone high in the air, a visual of the phone inside the machine, or seeing selfies taken of other people playing and they'll be hooked and wanting to play.
The name is only going to reinforce that.
Dialed In! might not satisfy a chunk of pinsiders, but Pinsiders aren't remotely closed to representing the general population.
Your last line always has to be kept in mind ! But 8k is a lot for operators to give it a try on their own. Big home sales will be needed.
Quoted from 27dnast:The name is only going to reinforce that.
The name does not reinforce that. Kids don't say or think or even use the word "dialed". They "call" someone. Hell they really don't even do that...... they "Snapchat" someone.
Quoted from jungle:Your last line always has to be kept in mind ! But 8k is a lot for operators to give it a try on their own. Big home sales will be needed.
We won't know until the sales are in... and as far as I can tell, Pinside isn't a representation of the collecting community as a whole.
The game is loaded... it's early code... and while I think the price is prohibitive, I'd bet the game is going to end up being a smash hit
Quoted from 27dnast:We won't know until the sales are in... and as far as I can tell, Pinside isn't a representation of the collecting community as a whole.
The game is loaded... it's early code... and while I think the price is prohibitive, I'd bet the game is going to end up being a smash hit
Don't know if it will be a "Smash Hit", but I do think it will sell well. Jack and his crew will make this right. they have too much invested to let it fail.
Quoted from Ballypinball:no wonder pat didn't attend the autograph session at expo after reading all the pinside posts.
Quoted from Ballypinball:no wonder pat didn't attend the autograph session at expo after reading all the pinside posts.
Just name it:
Don't Text & Drive?
Cellular Chaos?
Dropped Call?
Ring Tone Trials?
The Number You Have Reached?
Disconnected?
Unlimited Data?
Flipper Phone?
911 The Revenge?
Cell Towering Inferno?
Bad Connection?
Note 7 Incineration?
Big Bang 4 Bars?
Voice Mail Mayhem?
Who's Number Is That?
Your Mom Called?
I wonder if there are any other businesses besides pinball where the customers believe every aspect of what goes on is their business.
Toronto, ON
Quoted from RustyLizard:I wonder if there are any other businesses besides pinball where the customers believe every aspect of what goes on is their business.
Any business with an internet forum.
Quoted from RustyLizard:I wonder if there are any other businesses besides pinball where the customers believe every aspect of what goes on is their business.
All of them I think.
Quoted from Razorbak86:I'm just going to leave this right here...
http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/entertainment/15-epic-movie-titles-that-were-changed-last-minute/
Star Beast was my favorite. Maybe Heighway can change it?
I get your point and all that. I feel differently about a movie than an expensive home purchase. I would probably still buy my Ford F-150 if it was called the pink thing, for example. When I walk up to the game and see all the cool features and art, the name doesn't mean much to me. The theme is the same either way.
I'm partial to the original name "Dialed In" ... it makes more sense than any other suggestion I've seen.
Quoted from Razorbak86:I'm just going to leave this right here...
http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/entertainment/15-epic-movie-titles-that-were-changed-last-minute/
About half those name changes weren't actual improvements. Remember this one? "Return of the Jedi" was originally named "Revenge of the Jedi".
After watching 3 hours of gameplay it's seems more about the city than the phone. The phone is an element for sure. Quantum City is fine. But now we have been talking about it so much it won't matter to us. We know what it is now. It's going to sell to the pinheads regardless. Any name change should be done with the intention to attract the non Pinsider / casual player.
How about:
1) CITIZEN CATASTROPHE; or
2) HAVOC WARD?
With either name, modifications to the art package could retain the overall storyline while eliminating/minimizing/replacing the identity of the central character and his cellphone. Gameplay and build quality look fantastic!
In another thread I tried out "Lifeline" as a new title. Has drama and intensity, and has the word "line" in it for a more subtle tie in to the phone. Also, someone pointed out it has the same number of characters as the original title.
That "woosh" sound you hear is the fact going over everyone's head that "Dialed In" is also the term for a pinball that is set up ideally and working 100%.
Quoted from DanQverymuch:That "woosh" sound you hear is the fact going over everyone's head that "Dialed In" is also the term for a pinball that is set up ideally and working 100%.
If you have to explain it...
Poll makes no sense as answers are invalid responses to question:
Should Dialed In really be renamed?
1. Yes, keep the name, it was fine.
So the results cannot be trusted as many responses will be the opposite of what voters actually wanted to vote.
Just saying...
I think Quantum City is a far better name. Oh and remove "guy holding cell phone" art from playfield, cabinet and all advertising. Looks absolutely dumb to me, grossly misrepresents what the core of the game is about and is one of the most uncoolest things I've ever seen. I would not buy this game just because I don't want side art of a guy's arm holding a phone in my basement (I have a WOZ). Please consider making these changes JJP - we are all rooting for you and want to add Quantum City to our collections. Thanks.
Quoted from jwilson:If you have to explain it...
How can pinheads not know that? I see it used here all the time.
Quoted from DanQverymuch:How can pinheads not know that? I see it used here all the time.
Yes, just read the original Avengers threads for several examples. 
Quoted from spinal:Poll makes no sense as answers are invalid responses to question:
Should Dialed In really be renamed?
1. Yes, keep the name, it was fine.
So the results cannot be trusted as many responses will be the opposite of what voters actually wanted to vote.
Just saying...
I assume folks went with the statement made in each choice as to that statement's meaning, ignoring the incongruity of the yes or no with the poll question.
Then again, not all possible reasons for either choice are listed. How about "it shouldn't be changed, it may be odd but that phone motif isn't going anywhere..."
It is being changed, but "Dialed In" is still going to be part of the name, someone said Jack said. My guess is "Dialed In: Quantum City Chaos" which I think has a nice ring.
Quoted from spinal:Please consider making these changes JJP - we are all rooting for you and want to add Quantum City to our collections
Yeah this. I never want to lose sight of the fact that more than anything I want JJP to succeed and thrive and get another 10+ games out to market.
Quoted from Vyzer2:although quantum city chaos has been best one so far
I liked mine better.....Quantum City Apocalypse
"Quantum City" is the setting,which tells us nothing about the game. "Dialed In" offers some form of theme with many meanings. "Dialed In: Quantum City Chaos" is a long and confusing title. "Quantum City Chaos" has a nice ring to it, like Medieval Madness.
Quoted from Baiter:"Quantum City" is the setting,which tells us nothing about the game. "Dialed In" offers some form of theme with many meanings. "Dialed In: Quantum City Chaos" is a long and confusing title. "Quantum City Chaos" has a nice ring to it, like Medieval Madness.
I hope they make dialed In the slogan if they change the name and insist on keeping dialed in.
Quantum City Chaos
-get dialed in
Quoted from Baiter:"Quantum City" is the setting,which tells us nothing about the game. "Dialed In" offers some form of theme with many meanings. "Dialed In: Quantum City Chaos" is a long and confusing title. "Quantum City Chaos" has a nice ring to it, like Medieval Madness.
That's as may be, but Jack said Dialed In will still be part of the title.
Longer titled games:
AC/DC Let There Be Rock Limited Edition
Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends
Al's Garage Band Goes On a World Tour
Capt. Fantastic and The Brown Dirt Cowboy
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Dr. Dude And His Excellent Ray
Freddy A Nightmare on Elm Street
Wizard of Oz Emerald City Limited Edition
...not to mention a whole bunch with five words!
Quoted from DanQverymuch:That's as may be, but Jack said Dialed In will still be part of the title.
Longer titled games:
AC/DC Let There Be Rock Limited Edition
Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends
Al's Garage Band Goes On a World Tour
Capt. Fantastic and The Brown Dirt Cowboy
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Dr. Dude And His Excellent Ray
Freddy A Nightmare on Elm Street
Wizard of Oz Emerald City Limited Edition
...not to mention a whole bunch with five words!
So what you are saying is that "Dialed In" will be part of a stupidly long name like all the above, and we will wind up calling it the shorter version ("Dialed In") anyway, like those names above. Solves nothing but will probably make people happy anyway. Yay pinball.
Grimmenstein
Quoted from spinal:I Oh and remove "guy holding cell phone" art from playfield, cabinet and all advertising.... I don't want side art of a guy's arm holding a phone in my basement
GTA had the right idea
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Quoted from dgarrett:Lifeline ,has my vote. 8 letters , same idea. Life is on the line.
I think we are getting real close now.
Quoted from spinal:Poll makes no sense as answers are invalid responses to question:
Should Dialed In really be renamed?
1. Yes, keep the name, it was fine.
So the results cannot be trusted as many responses will be the opposite of what voters actually wanted to vote.
Just saying...
That's the whole point. As the poll makes no sense, changing the name made no sense to me either. Just created the thread for the fun of it really, because people like bickering over silly nonsense. The cat is out of the bag now. Get your pitchforks ready. Lol.
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