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Dialed In Is Not Awesome

By dougram69

7 years ago


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#201 7 years ago

The game isn't limited and will be available for a couple of years. It's best to form an opinion after the code is somewhat completed and in the hands of others for a while.

I own WOZ and TH and both games are a complete hit to friends and family. Actually they get 70-80% of the game play at parties. It's hard to bash when you see what the majority truly desires to play.

If I was to guess on the title and subject matter of this pin, I would assume that Jack let Pat have free reign on this, and had a deal that he couldn't make any major changes. Think about it, this pin has been in the making for a couple of years and I believe that JJP knows whats desired (WOZ,TH). Even if he was on the fence on this title, I still think he had too much time and money invested and had to run with it anyways.

As far as dialed in is concerned, just wait the progress out. I'm going to put 50 games on it and go from there.

#202 7 years ago

I do appreciate that they are making pinball machines for other walks of life now.

I wasn't born glued to a cell phone, but it appears in day to day life many are.

I've got people coming in the shop waving two of those things now.

#203 7 years ago

At any time I can reach in my pocket and:

make a phone call
send a text
send an email
write a note
take a picture
listen to music
get directions
find pinball machines in my area
post my pinball high scores
play virtual pinball
watch porn*
hail a cab
order food
check stock prices
check the weather

...I just don't understand why people wouldn't love the shit out of this technology! It's not like it's a glow stick or something. It's useful, it comes in handy, and it's awesome.

*your mileage may vary

#204 7 years ago
Quoted from Cornelius:

At any time I can reach in my pocket and:

That's impressive if you can reach into your pocket and do all those things!

#205 7 years ago
Quoted from Cornelius:

I just don't understand why people wouldn't love the shit out of this technology!

For one, I don't like carrying things around in my pocket that can cause discomfort or can get lost or broken.

Second, I don't care for most of the calls I get at home, and I sure wouldn't want to be bothered with them when out on the road.

Third, it is money that I would rather spend on something else.

#206 7 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Well I guess it's why Stern will never do an original theme again, they are in business to sell machines, lots of them
I applaud JJP for taking a risk, and it's all fine and good for people to cheerlead original themes, but if it goes down in flames it wasn't a risk worth taking was it? Then again, it's not your money lost
The problem with this one is the fact that there are a ton of new great pins coming out in 2017
Star Wars, Aerosmith, Aliens, Iron Maiden, Batman66, Pulp Fiction, JJP #4 and Spooky
Take your pick

Pulp Fiction??

#207 7 years ago

Actually, millennials are totally aware of Batman 66 via that gif of Batman carrying the bomb, and the other gif of him with the shark. Millennials also have a very sharp sense of humor, which most modern pins lack, as well as a strong sense of distrust to overt branding and lame cash-ins.

Some of my friends thought DI looked neat, but others were like "ugh, this is what old people think we like", and I do think that there's something missing from DI that keeps it from having that Funhouse grab. Everyone I know beelines for RCT because we all had a great time playing it and drowning peeps and killing guests, though you absolutely will NOT see that kind of dark, self-effacing humor in a pin with a license, at least not now, it seems. And just as everyone beelines for RCT, everyone squints at TH and says "they made a machine out of THAT?"

You know what would grab a millennial? A totinos pin with Tim and Eric. Lots of ironic existential nihilism, humorous gore, someone vomits on the ball, and hopefully if you beat the wizard mode a rusty knife stabs you and kills you, ending your shitty, lame life.

Or a Steven Universe pin. That'd be neat.

#208 7 years ago

I don't love the theme but it's not a showstopper either. I actually prefer it to the games based on music groups that I don't care for.

JJP chose Dialed In knowing full well what a large majority of pinsiders have been clamoring for. They did the same with WOZ and I think that machine reached a broader audience and eventually gained traction here.

Time will tell if DI was an error in judgement or genius.

#209 7 years ago
Quoted from trunchbull:

Maybe there should be an alternate edition for pinsiders, where the guy on the playfield is a woman with her tits out, and the little guy on a stick is a woman with her tits out, and the big statue is still a woman, but she has her tits out. JJP hire me!!!

You know how this hit the nail on the head?

I can't tell if the people upvoting are supporting the sarcasm or legitimately feel it should be this way, and I can't tell if the downvoters are irritated that someone would present this as an actual thing or if they just think it's a lame joke.

Well played, sir. Well played.

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#210 7 years ago

OMG that was fuggin hilarious. I almost choked on a triscuit laughing.

#211 7 years ago
Quoted from Cornelius:

At any time I can reach in my pocket and:
make a phone call
send a text
send an email
write a note
take a picture
listen to music
get directions
find pinball machines in my area
post my pinball high scores
play virtual pinball
watch porn*
hail a cab
order food
check stock prices
check the weather
...I just don't understand why people wouldn't love the shit out of this technology! It's not like it's a glow stick or something. It's useful, it comes in handy, and it's awesome.
*your mileage may vary

Great :bow down: but can you imagine where we would be without the wheel? I'm not saying cell phone - computer - internet is not great but I'd take the wheel over them any day. You'd be walking everywhere or riding a horse or maybe a pogo stick IDK. Just saying because something is useful doesn't mean it's worth of a pinball theme.

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#212 7 years ago

To op: you are welcome to like or not like any game or anything. But the personal way you attacked the designer and accused him of a lack of effort is just plain disrespectful. I have not seen or played dialed in. I do not have an opinion of the game. But there is no need to personally attack a creator putting themselves on the line. If you have criticisms, criticize the ideas, the concepts, using intelligence, reason and thoughtfulness. Rather, you have proven yourself quite an ass.

#213 7 years ago
Quoted from Pimp77:

Pulp Fiction??

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#214 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I don't care for most of the calls I get at home, and I sure wouldn't want to be bothered with them when out on the road.

Speaking of which, I just get home and the phone is ringing and I run inside. After I say hello four times, finally I hear this "Hi, can I speak to the homeowner?" I say " I don't know you, don't call back!"

I spend enough time staring at the screen at work, I don't need another annoyance to carry in my pocket at all times. Me time is me time. Period!

And people that carry these phones oblivious to everything else around them look like a bunch of idiots to me.

#215 7 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

You know how this hit the nail on the head?
I can't tell if the people upvoting are supporting the sarcasm or legitimately feel it should be this way, and I can't tell if the downvoters are irritated that someone would present this as an actual thing or if they just think it's a lame joke.
Well played, sir. Well played.

I aim to please and/or displease, apparently.

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#216 7 years ago
Quoted from DaveH:

OMG that was fuggin hilarious. I almost choked on a triscuit laughing.

It wasn't meant to be funny? Calm down dude, we don't all need to like the same things.

#217 7 years ago
Quoted from rai:

Great :bow down: but can you imagine where we would be without the wheel? I'm not saying cell phone - computer - internet is not great but I'd take the wheel over them any day. You'd be walking everywhere or riding a horse or maybe a pogo stick IDK. Just saying because something is useful doesn't mean it's worth of a pinball theme.

boy, a guy likes a cell phone and gets hit with the ol' "well, it's cool.. but it has nothing on the WHEEL" arguement. Wheelguement?

#218 7 years ago

I'm pretty certain more than half the people in this thread who don't like on this theme would like it and/or buy it if it were priced $1500 less.

That said, you know how I know Dialed in isn't awesome? It doesn't have an owners thread.

#219 7 years ago

Cell phone users probably cause more highway deaths than drunk drivers do now.

#220 7 years ago

Its crazy. 2 Pinballs both Southpark and Junkyard had toilets on the playfield that were a big part of the game with flushing sounds as well! and people are upset about cellphones

I remember when Addams came out . I played one of the first ones in MN. Hated it at the time. Best to give it some time . JR

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#221 7 years ago

I do believe they would sell more units with this gal though..

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#222 7 years ago

I have not played Dialed In yet. So I can't judge the game play. But, based on looks alone, I like it better than Aliens and Batman 66. I do wish the cabinet artwork was different. Hopefully Jack will correct this. Not everyone likes the same games but to bash it like a piece of shit is wrong.

#223 7 years ago

Just what we need...another FT

#224 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Cell phone users probably cause more highway deaths than drunk drivers do now.

So ban cell phones AND booze, seems so?

#225 7 years ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

Title: "Hipster: The Game"

Stern is already starting to target that demographic.

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#226 7 years ago
Quoted from Pinballomatic:

Suppose the next two pins are licensed themes? Would that please people?

It depends on the license...

1) Toy Story? Yes!
2) Howard the Duck? No!

#227 7 years ago
Quoted from Cornelius:

It wasn't meant to be funny? Calm down dude, we don't all need to like the same things.

And mine wasn't meant to be sarcastic. I know we don't all like the same things. That was why I found it funny. I'm sorry if I offended you.

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#228 7 years ago
Quoted from DaveH:

And mine wasn't meant to be sarcastic. I know we don't all like the same things. That was why I found it funny. I'm sorry if I offended you.

I don't get it, but okay.

(PS Not to get all pda but you're one of my fave Pinsiders, I'm glad we're not fighting)

#229 7 years ago

Was expecting alot more from Pat. He totally missed the Mark in my opinion. He should know it. If you think this is disrespectful or offends you in some manner, change hobbies. He came to a public forum, showed his wares, and asked for feedback.. Why is that disrespectful. You know, life is disrespectful and shouldn't be white washed cause you can't handel it. Pat is a big boy and I am sure he isn't staying up late cause of some real comments.

Dougram69

#230 7 years ago
Quoted from Cornelius:

So ban cell phones AND booze, seems so?

Maybe when driving.

When the penalties and enforcement of using a cell phone when driving equal that of drunk driving, people may start obeying the laws that exist. But I'm not seeing it. There are more idiots on the road using their cell phones than ever. And they are hazards.

Some can't even walk with the thing in their hand, let alone drive.

#231 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Maybe when driving.
When the penalties and enforcement of using a cell phone when driving equal that of drunk driving, people may start obeying the laws that exist. But I'm not seeing it. There are more idiots on the road using their cell phones than ever. And they are hazards.
Some can't even walk with thing in their hand, let alone drive.

Amen

#232 7 years ago

I played it and I enjoyed it.

#233 7 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Well I guess it's why Stern will never do an original theme again, they are in business to sell machines, lots of them
I applaud JJP for taking a risk, and it's all fine and good for people to cheerlead original themes, but if it goes down in flames it wasn't a risk worth taking was it? Then again, it's not your money lost
The problem with this one is the fact that there are a ton of new great pins coming out in 2017
Star Wars, Aerosmith, Aliens, Iron Maiden, Batman66, Pulp Fiction, JJP #4 and Spooky
Take your pick

And if JJP4 is Toy Story as rumored and Jetsons for Spooky, next year will be super competitive.

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#234 7 years ago

The theme is shocking and a total turn off for me. Only in pinball should you spend a massive amount of money then try to talk yourself around to liking something. Pat is a legend for sure, but as a theme this is a total misfire. Whats odd to me is that nobody in JJP flagged this as being naff at any point before the reveal. It's a bit like the Emperor's New Clothes... I love JJP and have both WOZ and TH but this is worrying for the type of company they are. With only one product every year it has to be a smash hit, this clearly is not.

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#235 7 years ago
Quoted from dougram69:

Was expecting alot more from Pat. He totally missed the Mark in my opinion. He should know it. If you think this is disrespectful or offends you in some manner, change hobbies. He came to a public forum, showed his wares, and asked for feedback.. Why is that disrespectful. You know, life is disrespectful and shouldn't be white washed cause you can't handel it. Pat is a big boy and I am sure he isn't staying up late cause of some real comments.
Dougram69

Just for accuracy, PatL has not been on pinside in a long time (possibly over a year now). I dont believe he did any of the things you claim.

You did however decide to bash a game and start a shole big thread about it.
Worth mention that I do find it funny your experience of the reveal and game was entirely different than every single person I spoke to at expo. I have found that when my experience is vastly different than every single person around me, then I typically need to do a little sould searching to see what I am missing.

I really like this game and if anything, people playing and paying attention at expo continually noted how much fun it was and more than anything how much fun everyone was having that was playing it. People were all in a crowd around the 5 games for the entire show. They were mostly watching and evaluating at first (like critical obsessive pinheads do) and over time that quickly melted into pinheads just having genuine fun playing and exploring the game; interacting with each; (still evaluating obviously); just plain having fun.

It has been a very long time since I have seen a pin consume so many people like Dialed In did at the reveal and expo.

It is worth mention that quite a few people left right after the covers came off because they wanted to jet over to the Heighway reveal. Them leaving was nothing in relation to the reveal of DI, but rather the desire to make the other event also, which was double booked.

I really dont mean any of this as a dig, but your experience is so opposite the scale from every single other pinhead I spoke with.

#236 7 years ago
Quoted from Skyemont:

But, based on looks alone, I like it better than Aliens and Batman 66

What color is the sky in your world?

#237 7 years ago
Quoted from Plungemaster:

Next pin, please before you start with it, of the next after that one, please try to ask the community somehow, or the people that actually bought jjp pins. It will never hurt you knowing the theme you pick is widely wanted.
I want to jump on board mate, just make that grale!

Quoted from LTG:

You'll only get thousands of different answers. I don't think any sane manufacturer would ever do that.
LTG : )

I think it is called 'Stakeholder engagement' and one of the stakeholders certainly is the pinball community.
A lot of sane manufactures practice stakeholder engagement in order to survive.

#238 7 years ago

Lol at people here claiming to hate the DI theme and artwork, but are excited for Toy Story. I mean, what the heck? You hate the giant robot girl in DI, but can't wait for a pin with a flying robot man? The cell phone is stupid, but you're excited about a kids toy cowboy? Meteor showers, acid rain and sink holes are dumb, but can't wait for Mr. Potatohead? Ok, then.

#239 7 years ago
Quoted from pinballplusMN:

I do believe they would sell more units with this gal though..

You are absolutely right. Pinball machines have had sexy female characters portrayed on playfield's and backglass since the early days. Even the best seller video games of today have strong but sexy protagonists. Lara Croft, Samus Aran (Metroid Series) to name just two. These pinball machines and video games are also very popular with women. It doesn't have to be a half naked woman, just a strong, fully clothed, attractive woman would be better than this 80's hipster.

That aside, I really like how the game generally looks and hope to play it myself when one eventually gets over here.

#240 7 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

Just for accuracy, PatL has not been on pinside in a long time (possibly over a year now). I dont believe he did any of the things you claim.
You did however decide to bash a game and start a shole big thread about it.
Worth mention that I do find it funny your experience of the reveal and game was entirely different than every single person I spoke to at expo. I have found that when my experience is vastly different than every single person around me, then I typically need to do a little sould searching to see what I am missing.
I really like this game and if anything, people playing and paying attention at expo continually noted how much fun it was and more than anything how much fun everyone was having that was playing it. People were all in a crowd around the 5 games for the entire show. They were mostly watching and evaluating at first (like critical obsessive pinheads do) and over time that quickly melted into pinheads just having genuine fun playing and exploring the game; interacting
with each; (still evaluating obviously); just plain having fun.
It has been a very long time since I have seen a pin consume so many people like Dialed In did at the reveal and expo.
It is worth mention that quite a few people left right after the covers came off because they wanted to jet over to the Heighway reveal. Them leaving was nothing in relation to the reveal of DI, but rather the desire to make the other event also, which was double booked.
I really dont mean any of this as a dig, but your experience is so opposite the scale from every single other pinhead I spoke with.

So, I was an early buyer of Woz, and through every code update was hoping it would suck just a little less than it did. one of my biggest issues was the crappy targets beneath the witch to hit instead of making her a bash toy. JJP made the same mistake with Hobbit making Smaug have stand up targets beneath him to hit instead of him being a bash toy. the excuse was those were licensing issues. so, Dialed In has a Drac Attack, toy. what made Drac Attack cool despite Monster Bash being an overall crap game was the fact Drac was a bash toy. there is something special about hitting a molded toy directly vs a stand up target. please Jack, get rid of the stand up target beneath the Lightning Drac attack dude and let us bash him directly with the added randomness he will bring. plus, the reason I left the JJP reveal was of course to attend Aliens Release party. Edit: Sorry for the spelling but I'm inebriated.

#241 7 years ago
Quoted from Euchrid:

Lol at people here claiming to hate the DI theme and artwork, but are excited for Toy Story. I mean, what the heck? You hate the giant robot girl in DI, but can't wait for a pin with a flying robot man? The cell phone is stupid, but you're excited about a kids toy cowboy? Meteor showers, acid rain and sink holes are dumb, but can't wait for Mr. Potatohead? Ok, then.

Hmmmm, lemme see. Toy Story: huge box office success, eight Annie Awards including "Best Animated Feature" and many other countless awards and accolades, major franchise. Pretty much qualified to be included in with pinball as much as any comic book character, The Simpsons, The Flinstones.... and you get my point.

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#242 7 years ago
Quoted from wayout440:

Hmmmm, lemme see. Toy Story: huge box office success, eight Annie Awards including "Best Animated Feature" and countless awards and accolades, major franchise. Pretty much qualified to be included in with pinball as much as any comic book charachter, The Simpsons, The Flinstones.... and you get my point.

And you're comparing that to a non-licensed theme. DI is a better theme than Toy Story.

#243 7 years ago
Quoted from pinlink:

And you're comparing that to a non-licensed theme. DI is a better theme than Toy Story.

I also think the non-licensed themes of Taxi and Pinbot are better than many licensed themes, as well as DI.

#244 7 years ago
Quoted from wayout440:

Hmmmm, lemme see. Toy Story: huge box office success, eight Annie Awards including "Best Animated Feature" and countless awards and accolades, major franchise. Pretty much qualified to be included in with pinball as much as any comic book character, The Simpsons, The Flinstones.... and you get my point.

So when's the Titanic pin coming out?

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#245 7 years ago

I think children up to the age of about 8 will like this pin over most others. Whether this will translate into many sales who knows ? I suppose most pinsiders and a lot of those attending shows buy machines for themselves. I think JJP has taken a chance on alienating many of it's existing customer base but it could be a chance worth taking. Price could ruin the experiment though. Still too high.

#246 7 years ago
Quoted from wayout440:

Hmmmm, lemme see. Toy Story: huge box office success, eight Annie Awards including "Best Animated Feature" and many other countless awards and accolades, major franchise. Pretty much qualified to be included in with pinball as much as any comic book character, The Simpsons, The Flinstones.... and you get my point.

and 21 years too late.

#247 7 years ago
Quoted from volcanodiver:

and 21 years too late.

So?...Alien is 37 years too late, what's your point?

#248 7 years ago
Quoted from trunchbull:

So when's the Titanic pin coming out?

I wish soon, the Titanic slot game is fabulous.

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#249 7 years ago
Quoted from wayout440:

So?...Alien is 37 years too late, what's your point?

the original post i referred to was bitching about the phone and that its an out of date theme. the theme age is irrelevant, although cell phones are common and not actually out of date. If it had a motorola brick on the PF, that would be out of date. Alien is also out of date, but it don't matter if the game is good.

#250 7 years ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

+1. Massive point that needs to be underscored.
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Being at the lower end of the age of the bell curve on these forums, I think that a lot of the complaints I've seen about this game come from people who don't necessarily understand it. Asking about current trends and popular culture questions on pinside would be like going into a Whole Foods and asking the shoppers there what their favorite McDonalds menu item is.
Hell, why do you think Stern is selling Batman '66 at such crazy prices? Because baby boomers have amassed the largest amount of wealth than any other generation of people ever in history. Stern is catering to that particular generation with theme and price. They know that within reason, the theme caters to that generation AND they know that a lot of people are willing to open their wallets for it.
Sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just trying to underscore a point. Ask anyone my age or younger what they think of Batman '66, they'll tell you the theme sucks, "Why is Batman purple?" "Where's Christian Bale?" "Wait you're telling me Bookworm is a villain?"
You show literally anyone currently in high school or college right now (the people who are actually going to be spending any real time in an arcade anyway), and they'll instantly be able to relate to a cell phone. We already drool over the latest phones, but now there's a game that surrounds a cell phone so technologically advanced, it can potentially destroy an entire city by tapping into quantum energy? Damn. I know a lot of friends who'd line up to play that game. Maybe the name and theme of "Dialed in" are an allegory for cell phones destroying what little threads of face to face communication and society we have left in the age of instant information and networking.
At any rate, I think the game is brilliant. I don't want to discount people who dislike it, however; you're certainly entitled to that opinion. Constructive criticism is what pushes games to new boundaries. In the end, we all win. Pinball has had such an exciting rebirth since the death of B/W and Gottlieb, and new manufacturers have risen from the ashes. And even though I can't afford any of these NIB games, it's still exciting for me to watch them being cranked out.
Jersey Jack, if you're listening: If you could somehow get the game to accept Apple Pay, or Samsung Pay (or even an atm card), you'd have the biggest game changer since the bill acceptor. I can't remember the last time I carried cash on me. I can't imagine an NFC chip and a wifi card would be a deal breaker inclusion to the board set.
tl;dr:
"Dialed in" isn't a game built for the bread and butter users of pinside. It's designed to appeal to younger audiences in an arcade setting.

Completely agree as me and the old lady are also younger than most other pin friends we have meant and we love di and will be getting one . Acdc, batman 66 and many other of sterns titles do nothing for me which is why i only have met and twd as wecan relate. I really like original theme's and think di will be great for us and friends .

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