That middle machine is about to get VERY lonely.

Also, instead of anymore Hitler videos. How about a new trend? Videos of Gary Stern getting pissed off at the quality, depth of code, and innovation of JJP Pinball machines.

Nah, one game takes 45 minutes.

Man, that's a beautiful row of games. All 3 are awesome in their own way.

So what kind of ball times does DI have compared to the other two jjp games? Is it short enough for league play?

Keep the outlanes where they are, factory settings with no ball save it's perfect for league play.

Similar to woz but straight outta the box DI gives a lot of extra balls for points. I turned that off and opened right out lane.
I'd say fine for league like that

JJP has really raised the bar! For me, it's JJP from this point out!

Too many deliberate nasty NIB surprises with Stern have scared me away indefinitely!

That is super fucking cool!!!!

Anyone here get the playfield protector?
Does it slow down the ball any?

I don't have one on my DI, but in general, they slow the ball down, and make it react very strangely. The protectors also tend to get very dirty under the edges.

Does anyone know what the 4 RGBs near the lockdown bar are for?

I'm assuming addition lighting for the camera in selfie mode, but I've been too busy to notice them while playing.

Received my game last week, set it up last night, played a few games...

This game is crazy. So much going on, to shoot for, things to do. I played a proto at the NW Pinball show in June, and I walked away thinking it was good but not great. I don't know what the differences are, but this game is on another level. I think Pat and Jack have taken a step forward for pinball with this game.

1 question: my QED guy keeps dropping his lightning bolt. I finally put a dab of glue to tighten his grip, which was pretty nonexistent out of the box. Anyone else have this problem? Otherwise no problems. Loving this game!

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Looks like you had a bad CC there,and it chipped out the art at the same time.
I don't think a Cliffy would even cover that one up.
When they are available.
Put a piece of mylar over it.
Stop the spreading of the chip.

Uh, oh.

We had a small (3mm) random piece of clear something loose on the playfield the other day, but couldn't figure out where it came from.

I would contact Jack as soon as u can. See what they can do.

How is that possible? I thought only garbage Stern had issues?

Shocking

Already sent an email. I'm guessing this would be covered under the 30 day limited warranty?

With the way the clear is this day in age any scoop, edge or hole on tne playfield sld be protected sonehow no matter what brand the game is......cliffy or mantis for sure.

Should be covered under 1 yr warranty

PF swap coming

I install cliffy's and plasatic protectors as soon as they become available. Emailed Cliffy right after I noticed the chip but he still needs access to a DI before he can design the protectors. This chip is so big I don't think a Cliffy would cover it.

oh god man, give it rest. How many times are you going to white knight for stern around here...

Hey at least its a hidden area?

For now. I was one of the lucky ones who also had issues with their GBLE playfield. Damage due to bad clear starts small but just spreads like wildfire the more you play.

This is about JJP pf's chipping after 21 plays and pieces of CC floating around the PF.

If its a crap clear job its going to happen in other places. Remember all the GB pf hate? Let's see what JJP does here to fix it.

Have they addressed the magnet wear? Has NOTHING to do with Stern does it?

Theres a good many other di production models in the hands of pinsiders with alot more plays..... any other issues observed on those? This new thick clearcoat at any rdge is prone to chipping on any pin no matter the company imo. Mantis or cliffy style protectors sld be installed anywhere this can happen ftom the factory imo as its rather cheap and easy .

Spoke too soon. The playfield has also chipped at the SIM card drop on the Dialed In here. It's on the opposite side from the one shown in the post above, and about half the size, but it's definitely chipped off.

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If it's an issue I hope they genuinely address it, not ignore emails and calls to the point people get the state attorney general involved like stern had to.

I have a LE #144 w / no issues w/ the clear. I have about 150 plays..

JJP support has always been awesome when I've had an issue as long as I called or emailed. However, their online support portal was always a disaster/black hole.

I have no doubt this support issue won't be handled any differently, but it is concerning for the integrity of all the PFs that have yet to be populated and delivered. What's Mirco doing? Are these digitally printed (bad adhesion) and cleared rather than screened (superior adhesion) and cleared? Or are these just not cured enough?

I agree. I know this sucks but they will make it right. If this is a play field issue, the production my stop until the issue is resolved but i think that's worse case.. JJP has always helped me in regards to my Hobbit and WOZ. No different w/ DI.

That looks like a Cliffy opportunity.

Aside from the few issues, is the game fun or what? I'm still contemplating. Thanks for any reviews in advance!

A high speed steel ball that knock a soft wood corner with a solid thin layer of clear will break for sure, nothing can prevent that unless the clear is a lot more thicker and softer but that kind of clear can cost a lot more and make more ''dimpling''
Must install a metal protection where it needed to avoid those chips in my opinion.

Absolutely fun. Shoots like a dream, too. There are so many goofy and cool details to the game that just up the fun factor. Highly recommended.

Does anyone else think the music at the bonus screen sounds very much like some of the music in another Keith game, Wheel of Fortune? It's extremely reminiscent, if not the same. I need to go back and compare.

He needs a playfield or game first. I suggested to Jack that he should send Cliff one during our email exchange. Hopefully he takes the advice and we see Cliffy protectors soonish. I'd be fine with just covering this chip up with one.

i am wondering, why there are no "cliffys" factory installed. ( Stern is included here.. )
These problems are no new problems.

My lightning bolt fell out and broke when I was setting up the game
JP notified and new piece on the way

Stern has put "Cliffy" type protectors on Aerosmith and I think also on GhostBusters.

They are on mine.

Have both. Great quality.

And given Cliff no credit or compensation.

For what? Metal in a scoop? Well lets just not do anything at the factory?

JJP has worked with me in the past on issues on my NIB Hobbit. I didn't have any playfield chipping, but for the issues I had they were great, responsive and made sure that I was happy. These things happen. Pinball is inherently self-damaging and they can only do so much to test each of these hand made machines. Don't worry - they will make it right. JJP is one of the most customer centric companies out there. They could be mass producing these and jamming them out of the door, but one of the reasons that they are ramping up so slowly is because they are testing each machine and watching to see what happens as these start to go into use in different environments. They are taking their time and making adjustments as necessary. Don't worry - they will make it right. They are changing the industry. Look at the difference in build quality and construction materials alone. How heavy is DI? Compare that with a standard size Stern. And vowing to no longer ship games with incomplete code - lets hope that all pin manufacturers follow suit. Don't get me wrong - I am not knocking Stern. I have had several Sterns and love them, but being essentially the only game in town can make a manufacturer myopic. JJP is a fresh player in the industry and are striving to set new standards based on our input and Jack's love of pinball.

I applaud Stern for putting protectors in there where needed. They are listening to us and watching other manufacturers and their eyes are opening and they are starting to upgrade the quality of their products. The bar is being raised folks. Let's hope that the manufacturers start a "quality" war and keep trying to better each other. Stern can afford to add these things due to their economy of scale. The prices have risen enough for them to be able to step up without having to raise them any more. In my opinion they have a lot of catching up to do if they are going to match the innovation that JJP has been demonstrating.

I got it. It does not slow the ball down "at all." I was a little aggravated for about 3-5 minutes when we had to take the plastic off of the playfield protector and then the upper right flipper got stuck on it. However, after we positioned the pf protector the game plays just as smoothly as it would without it. Seeing the old school locks for multi-ball like CV, and the balls just trickling one by one onto the playfield. I'm sure glad I did. Any of those on the fence, my advice is to get it. I don't like pf protectors but on this one it makes total sense and doesn't detract from the game one iota.

Looked at my Sim Card hole and so far so good with the playfield protector. Not saying the pf protector is bullet proof but very glad I got it.

ok, thanks...you approve, lapean disapproves basically...but you actually have one.

Think the pf protector would help with this chipping playfield thing?

Had my finger on the trigger for DILE, but now it's wait and see...My 15 year old (at the time) diamond plate fish tales with 1000's of plays was flawless...chipping pf on DILE with a dozen plays...unacceptable!

I don't get the whole PF protector thing. You shouldn't need one

Pins are meant to be played

If you wear one out in your lifetime, which ain't gonna happen, replace it with a brand new one

You're right...we shouldn't, which is why I brought up fish tales.

What the heck was "diamond plate" anyways?

And why can't we have it today on an almost $10k pin 25 years later?

Clearcoat formula has changed do to epa . Its pretty thick and brittle at edges the last 3-4 years or so.