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Demolition Man problem

By kevinm

9 years ago


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#24 9 years ago

Have you installed new ribbon cables yet?

#31 9 years ago

I personally would just order a full new set, they are usually original and now 20 years old, I know you used to be able to get the entire set from GPE, it was not bad for the set..

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#50 9 years ago

Glad to hear the cables worked.. I kinda had a feeling that would do it..

#53 9 years ago

After I posted telling the OP to get a new set, I ordered 2 myself, BEFORE they started acting up..20 bucks from GPE is not bad, an extra 4 for the aux cable for Demo..

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#65 9 years ago

Have you reseated all the game roms?

#67 9 years ago

I wonder if after that rebuild of the HV section your voltage is too high, did anyone confirm the voltages were correct since you posted what it was out putting?

#72 9 years ago

Yet they were working fine for a little bit with the new cables? Are these displays still working correctly in other machines?

#73 9 years ago

The second one looks like it is pulsing with that distortion, the first one is a complete mess.. but voltages tend to have different affects on different displays.

#78 9 years ago

I am no master at all on the electrical side of the coin.. but I have a 100% working demo man here, so I just took some readings on my dmd, 3 of the lines have voltage, the highest was 143.9, however the pin next to it is showing 27.6, the 3rd is 10.3.. I know you have one reading at 116, where exactly is that reading coming from?

#81 9 years ago

Same reading when I check voltages on the display driver board.. 143.9, 27.6,10.3

#83 9 years ago
Quoted from PinballManiac40:

What are you using as ground? Those voltages are not looking good.
I normally just wedge my black lead under the ground braid wire at the bottom of the backbox so I don't have to hold that lead.

That is exactly what I did. My display is perfect, not a speck of issue at all

#85 9 years ago

Interesting as mine are 143.9 and 27.6.. I know the 27.6 is below where it should be, but I have no issues on my display at all.. what are the correct voltages at these 2 points?

#88 9 years ago

0 on ohms.

#89 9 years ago

I think I had my meter on the wrong V side.. Readings are coming out more accurate.. I did say I have a tiny bit of knowledge on this stuff... so there you go.. will post new readings in a min.. also just found out I was sold a DMD that I never bothered to test and it has 6 lines out, if I squeeze it together a few come back.. any idea how to repair, I know that is the internal ribbon cable..

#90 9 years ago

Ok

1 -120.4
2 -108.4
3 0
4 0
5 0
6 5.0
7 12.7
8 64.5

#91 9 years ago

Voltages going to the DMD itself based on connection at DMD

Starting left to right, first connection orange

-121.6
-109.4
0(no connector pin here at all
0
0
5.0
12.8
64.8

Maybe these will help the OP.. and I learned something new as well!

#94 9 years ago

Unless he made the same meter mistake I had made.. he was saying 138 and 116, now assuming he did not put the - in front of the numbers, they are high, but when I had the meter set to the wrong side mine were up there as well...

I cannot even figure out how you could separate this dmd to repair the internal ribbon cable.. I should have tested it, took sellers word they were both good, one was perfect, this one is useless..

#95 9 years ago
Quoted from kevinm:

Yes, my measurements are good except the first 2 which are 134 and 113. They are high the only question I have is if they are too high for the display to work correctly. I will find out when I get my new display board.

You did the rebuild of the board BEFORE you got the new cables in right? I am just wondering if something was done wrong on that rebuild..

#97 9 years ago

Were your voltages -138 and -116?

#98 9 years ago

I think those initial display issues were cable related..

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#104 9 years ago

Try to find someone local who will let you try the babcock display in their game.. If the Vishay display is working perfect, you should be ok.

#106 9 years ago

His customer service is fantastic... you will get it back quickly, I had a problem with a few of his boards, one came with a game I had bought, it was already installed, told him the problem, had me sent it to him, and sent it back no charge... never even asked where I got it, how old it was...

I recommend him for the service alone!

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