Demolition Man Owners Club.... Members Only!


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#601 4 months ago
Quoted from Gogojohnnyquack:

do you have any tips or tricks for us specific to a Demo Man refurb?

Novus 2, and elbow grease. Its a pretty easy tear down actually, I take pictures as I go and label everything by number as it comes off for an easy reassemble, thats the most important step.

#602 4 months ago
Quoted from Gogojohnnyquack:

do you have any tips or tricks for us specific to a Demo Man refurb?

WhiskeyTango is working on a very detailed teardown thread, with most everything off the top of the playfield last time I checked.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/demolition-man-resto

Quoted from Hazoff:
Did an overhaul on this one, was super dirty

Wow, that really is a night and day difference there... Looks way better!

#603 4 months ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

Has anyone run into an issue where the elevator come up, the claw grabs the ball and then the claw just sits there until ball search? Is there a sensor that tells the claw that it successfully grabbed the ball? Mine doesn't this on a completey random basis.

Mine did this until I updated the ROMs, I had really old proto ROMs (as it was an actual proto DM, I had to switch out the development WPC-S before the new ROMs would even work) but I imagine samples or early games may have shipped with code that still did that on occasion. There is no such sensor... So if you're not on a later release I'd try that.

#604 4 months ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

Has anyone run into an issue where the elevator come up, the claw grabs the ball and then the claw just sits there until ball search? Is there a sensor that tells the claw that it successfully grabbed the ball? Mine doesn't this on a completey random basis.

I encountered a similar issue during the teardown recently.

To check the GI I powered on the game and the claw/elevator wants a bit haywire. While both systems had power, the optometrist sensors had yet to be reconnected. Given this, I would double check all your connections.

#605 4 months ago

I'll be picking up my DM next week. My friend insists that the first order of business will be flipper and pop rebuilds as well as a shop out. I've been thinking of doing some Titan bands on the game. Anybody done these? What color scheme did you use? Got pics?

#606 4 months ago
Quoted from nerdygrrl:

I'll be picking up my DM next week. My friend insists that the first order of business will be flipper and pop rebuilds as well as a shop out. I've been thinking of doing some Titan bands on the game. Anybody done these? What color scheme did you use? Got pics?

glow in the dark would be epic imo, or orange, or white, but mostly gitd

#607 4 months ago
Quoted from nerdygrrl:

I'll be picking up my DM next week. My friend insists that the first order of business will be flipper and pop rebuilds as well as a shop out. I've been thinking of doing some Titan bands on the game. Anybody done these? What color scheme did you use? Got pics?

I did the semi translucent titans and they look great, even though they do disappear a bit more than the other colors. Not photos though, sorry.

#608 4 months ago
Quoted from nerdygrrl:

I'll be picking up my DM next week. My friend insists that the first order of business will be flipper and pop rebuilds as well as a shop out. I've been thinking of doing some Titan bands on the game. Anybody done these? What color scheme did you use? Got pics?

I just did the Titan bands in white and light blue for the flippers. I really like the bands throughout the game, but I'm not in love with the flippers.

#609 4 months ago

Thanks for the input guys. I'm looking forward to picking this one up.

#610 4 months ago
Quoted from nerdygrrl:

Titan bands on the game.

I like plain old black, the one I just shopped is for a friend and he wanted whites I'll try to find a pic of my old one with all black, for me this is the best color for all games, works well with the art and cab plus I prefer the bounce they deliver.

#611 4 months ago

In the club! Sound on mine is anemic. Explosions and other effects need some oomph. Thinking of getting an internal sub to replace original cabinet speaker. Can anyone weigh in whether this results in significant improvement? Should I consider back box speaker upgrades also? Not looking to spend money unnecessarily.

#612 4 months ago
Quoted from JeffA:

In the club! Sound on mine is anemic. Explosions and other effects need some oomph. Thinking of getting an internal sub to replace original cabinet speaker. Can anyone weigh in whether this results in significant improvement? Should I consider back box speaker upgrades also? Not looking to spend money unnecessarily.

You definitely want to go with a self powered amp. Anything that isn't self powered will be just as lacking in oomph as what you have.

#613 4 months ago

Thanks for the Titan tips guys. I am torn between glow in the dark or clear. Now I must also decide clear star posts or blue....

#614 4 months ago
Quoted from JeffA:

In the club! Sound on mine is anemic. Explosions and other effects need some oomph. Thinking of getting an internal sub to replace original cabinet speaker. Can anyone weigh in whether this results in significant improvement? Should I consider back box speaker upgrades also? Not looking to spend money unnecessarily.

I had pinball pro in mine and didn't like it... if I was to do it again: I'd put a powered sub under it and a full stereo system externally around it... Dcs is supposed to be amazing, why on demo man is it lacking??

#615 4 months ago
Quoted from Chosen_S:

Dcs is supposed to be amazing, why on demo man is it lacking??

Did you have the home ROM?

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/dm-questions#post-1433065

#616 4 months ago
Quoted from DanQverymuch:

Did you have the home ROM?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/dm-questions#post-1433065

No, I don't believe so, my friend across town bought it from me though, so I can't check the version just yet, but yes... it sounded very compressed, the sound quality was kind of underwhelming.

#617 4 months ago

Has anyone had any luck finding replacement ramp flaps for this game? I need the one that goes on the ramp you hit with the upper flipper.

#618 4 months ago

Hi Friends,

I did not take quite the detailed pics that I thought I did when moving my machine. I have a blue and white lead with a manufacture tag of IJ104, however I wrote IJ105 on the connector. I remember having a similar issue with my BSD where the manufacture tag was wrong and I was correct.

Can anyone tell me what they have in those two locations? Thanks in advance.

#619 4 months ago

I just ordered both the special demo time roms and the lx4 rom with something for leds I believe. Can anyone chime in on which version they use and why? Also what's the difference? Thanks in advance.

#620 4 months ago
Quoted from nerdygrrl:

Hi Friends,
I did not take quite the detailed pics that I thought I did when moving my machine. I have a blue and white lead with a manufacture tag of IJ104, however I wrote IJ105 on the connector. I remember having a similar issue with my BSD where the manufacture tag was wrong and I was correct.
Can anyone tell me what they have in those two locations? Thanks in advance.

Page 3-32 in the manual I believe shows that only J104 is used, not J105. See attached...

Williams_1994_Demolition_Man_Operations_Manual_English_OCR_searchable.pdf

#621 4 months ago
Quoted from Gogojohnnyquack:

Page 3-32 in the manual I believe shows that only J104 is used, not J105. See attached...

Thanks! I have the manual, but...after Rollergames I have decided not to put my trust in them. Turns out they are a parallel circuit so either is correct.

#622 4 months ago

Ready to shop a Demo Man I have had about a year now, and I had a few questions. I need to make the clear plastic in the upper left of the playfield that rest on top of the car tube. I wonder if someone can give me the dimensions of that plastic. Second, there is a hex spacer that is supposed to be attached to the top of one of the M E L lane guides. I have seen this hex post in all sorts of position on the lane guides from pictures, mostly 3rd lane guide from the right and post closest to the front of the machine. Does someone know WHERE this post Should go, how long it is, and does it attach at the top to something or just sits under a ramp for support . Mine is missing.

Many Thanks
Mark

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#623 3 months ago

Hi - I bought the home swear ROMs - do I just pull out the 9 ROMs (8 sound/speech; 1 CPU) on the boards and put in the new ones or is there anything I need to do on the menus of the game to "set them up"? Do I need a special tool to pull the chips or can I pull by hand or lift up with a flat head screwdriver? Anything else I need to do?

Thanks a lot - I am a newbie when it comes to working on games so I am sure this is very elementary to many of you awesome tech guys - learning a lot on this and other threads - really appreciate everyone posting so I can learn! Thank you!

#624 3 months ago
Quoted from hockeymag8:

Hi - I bought the home swear ROMs

amazon.com link »

You can use a small flat tip screwdriver but the chip puller is much better.
Make sure the game is off.
Make note of the semi circle indent on the old chip. the new one must be put in the same way.
Pry slowly on either side of the chip you are removing. Make sure you are prying between chip and socket. Pull straight out.
Place the new chip so one side the legs on side are aligned. Gently push the chip in making sure the legs line up.
You will lose all settings and need to put in the time and date, set free play and any other changes you want.
A2-26 vulgar speech must be turned on. You can turn it off when you don't want to offend anyone.

#625 3 months ago

Awesome! Thank you so much Smiley!!

#626 3 months ago
Quoted from tomh52722:

Where did you buy your mirror blades? I bought a pair from cointaker last week and the holes that are pre-cut for the hinges did not line up with the demo man hinges. After doing some research on pinside, I learned that the hinges on demo man are in a slightly different place than on the other Williams games. When you buy the blades (from cointaker at least), they say "Williams", "Stern"' etc versus the name of the specific game. I ended up putting the blades that I bought on my getaway instead, but still would like to put them on DM. Does anyone know where to buy mirror blades that are made to fit DM?
By the way, since I am in the club thread, I should mention that I have had this game for a year and it is one of my favorite games!

Just following up to see if anyone knows where to buy mirror blades that fit demo man. Thanks

#627 3 months ago

Hi Smiley - I carefully replaced all the chips and I have no sound - I get "Sound Error SYS 3.48" - any ideas what this is and how I can correct? Thank you!

#628 3 months ago

Got Sound! - ummm got so excited toward the end the new ROMs were going in well I switched #s U2 & U3 - duh!!!....sadly I'm an accountant you think I would know how to count!! Then still had Error but saw U7 on screen error report so re-seated that and now good. Thanks a lot Smiley for the guidance (and to all who post their awesome knowledge on here - love this site!!)

#629 3 months ago
Quoted from tomh52722:

Just following up to see if anyone knows where to buy mirror blades that fit demo man. Thanks

There is only one mirror blades company. They do not sell Demo Man specific blades. Their WPC blades are easy to modify to fit a DM.

#630 3 months ago
Quoted from hockeymag8:

Got Sound!

I am glad you are up and running.

#631 3 months ago
Quoted from nerdygrrl:

There is only one mirror blades company. They do not sell Demo Man specific blades. Their WPC blades are easy to modify to fit a DM.

I couldn't figure out how to do this without putting them over the bolt and leaving the factory-drilled hole (where the bolts should go) visible. Do you have any tips that might help me figure this out? Thanks for responding by the way.

#632 3 months ago

I don't, I had read about the problems here and reached out to the company and asked them. They weren't aware of the deiscrepencies. They recommended drilling out the original hole a bit more. I hadn't realized measurements were that off that they modification wouldn't be covered by the hardware.

It might be worth taking a picture and sending it to them. Maybe they could send you a set that was not drilled out. I planned on ordering a set when I finish with my restoration.

#633 3 months ago

Has anyone purchased the repro plastics from PPS, how is the artwork? Is it true to the original?

#634 3 months ago
Quoted from nerdygrrl:

Has anyone purchased the repro plastics from PPS, how is the artwork? Is it true to the original?

I got them. The plastic is a it thinner, and the colors didn't seem as dark at first, but then I realized that my original plastics were super yellowed, so the colors were darker. Also, I can't say I was overly impressed by how the graphics were aligned with the cutout shapes. Not any worse than the original, but I was expecting them to clean up the alignment and to make sure the borders were equal all the way around. I think they just took the original files as they were and hit print/cut.

All that being said, it was a really nice upgrade and the difference having new clear plastics instead of old yellowed ones is huge!

#635 3 months ago

Thanks, it sounds like they just scanned these and didn't bother to vectorize and fix the art. This is what I was afraid of. *sigh*

#636 3 months ago
Quoted from nerdygrrl:

Thanks, it sounds like hey just scanned these and didn't bother to vectorize and fix the art. This is what I was afraid of. *sigh*

The set I got from Bay Area looks real nice to me.

#637 3 months ago

Anybody have any interest in a NOS Cleared PF? I picked this up when I grabbed my game for $750. Sadly I did not notice some slight inserts raise. One looks like a hairline crack the other looks like decal lines. The perfectionist in me can't install it as is knowing that it can be fixed and I don't have the skills or the fund to repair. It doesn't appear the clear is cracked, it is just cosmetic. One could repair, or simply glue the inserts in place and leave as it.

I plan on posting in the market place tomorrow, but wanted to give other DM owners here first crack. Aside form the freeze inserts the PF is STUNNING.

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#638 3 months ago
Quoted from nerdygrrl:

Anybody have any interest in a NOS Cleared PF?

I'm interested. How much are you asking? I have one coming in a container group buy that I know has wear down in front of the flippers that I don't have the skills to fix. But I can't afford much and I've never done a playfield swap!

#639 3 months ago

I am hoping to get the $750 that I paid for it back

#640 3 months ago
Quoted from Gogojohnnyquack:

I have one coming in a container group buy that I know has wear down in front of the flippers that I don't have the skills to fix.

I'm interested in your playfield if you buy a better one for yourself.

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#641 63 days ago

Hello guys, do anyone have some nice custom instruction card for Demo man to share?? Thank you!!

#642 62 days ago
Quoted from Pesmerga:

Hello guys, do anyone have some nice custom instruction card for Demo man to share?? Thank you!!

Check these out:

http://www.pinballrebel.com/game/pins/instruction/
http://www.pinballcards.com/Pinball-Cards/Demolition-Man

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#643 40 days ago

Joined the club recently, my MPU has a rom labeled PX-3? It doesn't seem to match the roms on ipdb, does anyone know how old it is? I assume it's not the newest, which means I'll have to burn a copy of the newest (L-4?) rom or the home roms. I don't care about swearing, is there any other notable differences for the home rom?

Anyone got a spare translite?

#644 40 days ago

Joins the DM Club Needs a new plastic set, and a good clean, but other than that...

#645 37 days ago
Quoted from zacaj:

Joined the club recently, my MPU has a rom labeled PX-3? It doesn't seem to match the roms on ipdb, does anyone know how old it is? I assume it's not the newest, which means I'll have to burn a copy of the newest (L-4?) rom or the home roms. I don't care about swearing, is there any other notable differences for the home rom?
Anyone got a spare translite?

Congrats! I think one of the best games for the $ currently.

I added the swear ROMs and think I noticed a couple things other than the swearing but nothing huge or that I can specifically recall. I enjoy the swearing so for me that part was worth it alone - but if you don't care about that not sure there is that much to gain but if anyone else has a different opinion they will chime in.

I got an alternative translite for mine so have the original to sell - PM me if interested.

#646 37 days ago
Quoted from hockeymag8:

not sure there is that much to gain

I'm pretty sure line has a fairly old copy, so I need to burn a ROM either way... Interested in the little Gameplay differences, if any...

#647 37 days ago
Quoted from zacaj:

I'm pretty sure line has a fairly old copy, so I need to burn a ROM either way... Interested in the little Gameplay differences, if any...

I didn't have that many plays on the game before I decided to get the home ROMs so can't pinpoint any specific game play or non-swear call outs. I just remember thinking "that seems new" as I played but there was nothing earth shattering.

What I did was read all the threads on this and the consensus seemed to be it was worth it but that was more for the swearing. There were some that said it was not. Here are a couple quotes from a thread:

"also forgot, the sound quality is better with the profanity set, as they are bigger, and the audio is less compressed. It is somewhat noticeable."

"I actually have installed them since my post. Definitely quotes directly from the movie. Sound good and definitely fitting to what happens during the game. I like the violation animation that happens sometimes too. I upgraded from P3 ROMs so there is a large difference for me upgrading to these ROMs so it was very worth it."

I did try and search for any specific game play differences listing but could not find one.

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#648 21 days ago

Hi fellow Pinsiders! I don't post really post that often, but I was hoping you guys could help me figure out where I could find the following part for my Demo Man (specifically the bracket with the screws). I recently shopped it myself, but noticed there were a few parts missing. This one is a bit of a head scratcher.

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#649 21 days ago

Hi All
My "eye" in DemoMan has dried out! No fluid at all, this causes it not to roll.

Can anyone suggest/know where I can get a new one

Thanks

#650 20 days ago
Quoted from Pinhead1982:

Hi All
My "eye" in DemoMan has dried out! No fluid at all, this causes it not to roll.
Can anyone suggest/know where I can get a new one
Thanks

I bought mine from Marco, but it appears as though they are out of stock. I didn't see them for sale anywhere else when I was shopping for a new one.

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