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Demolition Man cabinet decals restoration

By hassanchop

9 years ago


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#1 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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12y 84,900 2,443 82

Just got this job to restore the DM cabinet decals, and they are in such a bad shape that this is gonna be an adventure. So I will post the steps here so we can have some fun
This is how the scans look:
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Colors are all gone! There are some severe marks that need to be fixed.
The worst part is that this art is highly detailed, like a photorealistic drawing. That means there are less lines and more gradients. Will take much more time.
Next step: trying to figure out what the next step is..

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#2 9 years ago
 
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Ballsofsteel

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US Riverton, WY

12y 73,550 2,923 7 81

I got my backbox decals from Australia. good luck, someday i'll tackle this when it's not on location.

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#3 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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The lettering is done

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It's gonna look great when all is done for sure. The difference is huge:

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#4 9 years ago
 
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MustangPaul

LED Leg Light-Ups

US Saint Paul, MN

11y 136K 23,311 10

That is lookin sweet. You do great work.

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#5 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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12y 84,900 2,443 82

A piece of this week's magic:

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still needs a lot of work..

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#6 9 years ago
 
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stephenshane237

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US Medina, OH

11y 43,900 867 9

Awesome game got rid of mine because of no cab decals available hopefully you can get these done

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#7 9 years ago
 
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PPS

Planetary Pinball

US Sparks, NV

11y 103K 2,277 61

we have the artwork ... if someone has the connection and can help get us permission then will be good to go ... but not sure that will be very easy unfortunately ...

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#8 9 years ago
 
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stephenshane237

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Quoted from PPS:

we have the artwork ... if someone has the connection and can help get us permission then will be good to go ... but not sure that will be very easy unfortunately ...

Rick I hope you can get all the licenses you need and can't wait to see what you reproduce in the future. There is a lot of games that are great just need resto parts for them.

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#9 9 years ago
 
PPS

PPS

Planetary Pinball

US Sparks, NV

11y 103K 2,277 61

we've not yet cracked the code on DM rights, but will try on this shortly ...

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#10 9 years ago
 
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stephenshane237

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US Medina, OH

11y 43,900 867 9

Quoted from PPS:

we've not yet cracked the code on DM rights, but will try on this shortly ...

I hope you can getting all the licenses has to be a pain in the $ss

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#11 9 years ago
 
PPS

PPS

Planetary Pinball

US Sparks, NV

11y 103K 2,277 61

Yes, most any 'large' licensee wants $5K-$15K upfront pre-pay royalty and then a % of the revenue after that pre-pay is paid. So imagine trying to sell $50K-$150K of product from one game title (at 10%) ... that is what they want ...

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#12 9 years ago
 
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stephenshane237

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US Medina, OH

11y 43,900 867 9

I know what you mean I have had to buy a song before for an ad campaign for my companies and they wanted 80k for 1 year rights you would think they would take anything but no they want stupid money even if it's not popular anymore

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#13 9 years ago
 
PPS

PPS

Planetary Pinball

US Sparks, NV

11y 103K 2,277 61

welcome to my world

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#14 9 years ago
 
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stephenshane237

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US Medina, OH

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I feel for you but you can get them to play ball just need a good license negotiator we used one and got it for 25k just shoot them An offer they will play ball with you

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#15 9 years ago
 
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Sly_Old_Devil

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Quoted from PPS:

we have the artwork ... if someone has the connection and can help get us permission then will be good to go ... but not sure that will be very easy unfortunately ...

Can Wayne help with this as he still has sets of the backbox decals he is selling or are there multiple licences required?

@Hassanchop - your work is always fantastic so I am sure this will turn out to be another great project

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#16 9 years ago
 
PPS

PPS

Planetary Pinball

US Sparks, NV

11y 103K 2,277 61

The $ amount is Sooo small on these that many licensees don't waste their time (but also legally can't allow them to go forward without a contract) ... sadly.

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#17 9 years ago
 
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MrArt2u

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US Los Angeles, CA

12y 65,400 1,471 16

Not trying to hijack the thread, Hassanchop, as your work definitely deserves to be highlighted, but I'm curious, Rick, does the license issue affect things without identifiable artwork, like the much-awaited DM ramps?

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#18 9 years ago
 
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PPS

Planetary Pinball

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11y 103K 2,277 61

not usually.

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#19 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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We need licenses to protect the artists. But in this case of a 20 yo machine where 200 or less guys want the decals, the license holder should be a little more reasonable.

Anyway, the side is done. A lot of work but finally done.
Now on to the front and head.

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#20 9 years ago
 
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robotron911

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US Commerce Township, MI

11y 56,900 1,278 9

Really nice work! Question, wasn't Stallone done in skin tone on the side?

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#21 9 years ago
 
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Monster_Bash

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Funny...I just sent him a PM saying the same thing

Quoted from robotron911:

Really nice work! Question, wasn't Stallone done in skin tone on the side?

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#22 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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lol
completely missed that!

will do a skin tone of course

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#23 9 years ago
 
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JDee

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IT Roma

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nice!

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#24 9 years ago
 
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Engine09

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CA Calgary, AB

11y 44,400 305 13

Demo Man has become one of my absolute favorites and my cabinet is in very rough shape, I'll be first in line to place an order for decals with PPS once available.

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#25 9 years ago
 
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robotron911

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US Commerce Township, MI

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1 week since update! I'm eagerly waiting to see what you've done since last post.

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#26 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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Ugly ass Wesley is restored!!

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#27 9 years ago
 
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Engine09

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How are you doing this anyways? By restoring decals do you mean scanning the original artwork, retouching using software then printing off new decals?

I just realized I don't know what the hell you're talking about. : )

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#28 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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Yep, I receive a scan and then retouch/remake the art on the computer.
It's a lot of work, but in the end you go from left to right:
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#29 9 years ago
 
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jwilson

Pinball Art Prints

CA Toronto, ON

9y 106K 5,051 6 7

I wouldn't call that a restoration - it's more of a "restomod" to steal a word from the car world.

A restoration uses the original colours. Yours is much brighter and therefore not "accurate".

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#30 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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Quoted from jwilson:

A restoration uses the original colours. Yours is much brighter and therefore not "accurate".

You are seeing the file in jpeg. The colors will have to be adjusted in the printing phase.

Anyway, it's impossible to reproduce the same colors exactly because the printing technique will be different form the one used back in the 90's. Even if I had the original file that Rick has..
So, yeah we could call it a restomod

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#31 9 years ago
 
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Engine09

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CA Calgary, AB

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Are the "scans" just high quality photos taken with a camera? Or is there some special equipment and process to scanning huge pieces of art like this?

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#32 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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Quoted from Engine09:

Are the "scans" just high quality photos taken with a camera? Or is there some special equipment and process to scanning huge pieces of art like this?

You need a portable hand scanner:
http://www.clickbd.com/global/classified/item_img/731907_1_original.jpg

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#33 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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Front is done!

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I think Wesley's hair is white on this cabinet front. At least that's what I see on every pic on the net, including the flyer.

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#34 9 years ago
 
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Sly_Old_Devil

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Looking good, can't wait to see them applied to your machine.

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#35 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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and done:

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Mr Silvester has color now

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Now let's see how it's gonna look on the machine heheheh

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#36 9 years ago
 
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morary

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US San Jose, CA

9y 15,400 2 2

Holy cow that looks awesome. I wanna know how it turned out. I have a DM with some scratched decals. Would definitely be interested in getting them replaced if the price was right!

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#37 9 years ago
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hassanchop

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All tests are done and the result is pretty nice for this restomod

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#38 9 years ago
 
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arakissun

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Send you a PM

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#39 8 years ago
 
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Dede214

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Hi is possible to have this decal ? I send you a PM

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