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F-14 Tomcat repro Buthamburg playfield 2022

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#451 4 years ago
Quoted from ChrisS:

I just finished my F-14 playfield swap. Peter’s work is really outstanding. My CPR gold EATPM was a mess.
This one was so easy to work on and all the dimpling was in order and the depths were perfect.
All I changed was the original alignment of the other red and blue lamp boards so they were centered more in the inserts. This was a factory design issue and not a Peter issue.
Thanks again Peter. Really an outstanding plAyfield. I can’t wait for police force

That's awesome! I've started surgery!

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#452 4 years ago

Hello to all

Thank you, It is the best loan that we can receive, happy customer`s
We have opened a new F-14 Playfield list. If you want to pre-order,
then please send us an email directly to peter(et)buthamburg.de
Wood is ordered and inserts are on stock.

Regards from Hamburg
Stay well

Leon and Peter
www.buthamburg.de

#453 4 years ago

Making some headway!

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#454 4 years ago

Playfield back in the machine on the home stretch but will be pausing for minute as I’m getting some powder coating done next
These playfields are incredibly nice!

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#455 3 years ago

Hello to all

We have glued all inserts and are busy sanding them nice and smooth. The boards will be primered in January.
We hope that we can start silkscreening in January.
If you are interested to be on our pre-order list, please send us an email directly to peter (et) buthamburg.de
Wish you all a Merry Christmas and stay well.

Leon & Peter
www.buthamburg.de

1 month later
#456 3 years ago
Quoted from Buthamburg:

Hello to all
We have glued all inserts and are busy sanding them nice and smooth. The boards will be primered in January.
We hope that we can start silkscreening in January.
If you are interested to be on our pre-order list, please send us an email directly to peter (et) buthamburg.de
Wish you all a Merry Christmas and stay well.
Leon & Peter
www.buthamburg.de

Hello Leon and Peter

What is the status of the new playfields?

#457 3 years ago

Hello to all

The demand was highier so we decided to order a few more boards. They arrived and we are busy milling them.
Target is to get them finished by May.

Regards from Hamburg
Leon and Peter
www.buthamburg.de

#458 3 years ago

Peter, I got one from PPS a couple months ago so you can take me off the list. I hadn't realized they had stock of it and was ordering something else there and decided to look at the playfields and there it was.... had thought they were sold out everywhere until then.

That was an expensive intended $14 parts order but the PF is gorgeous.... now, when will I have time to swap it in?

#459 3 years ago
Quoted from slochar:

Peter, I got one from PPS a couple months ago so you can take me off the list. I hadn't realized they had stock of it and was ordering something else there and decided to look at the playfields and there it was.... had thought they were sold out everywhere until then.
That was an expensive intended $14 parts order but the PF is gorgeous.... now, when will I have time to swap it in?

Hi. Thank you for your notice. Can you please send me an email directly, then I can take you off the list. Havnt tracking on pinside.
Email is peter(et)buthamburg.de
Regards from Hamburg
Peter
www.buthamburg.de

4 months later
#460 2 years ago

Hi @buthamburg!
Any news about the playfields?

#461 2 years ago

Not yet,
We will start printing approx. end of July.

Regards from Hamburg
Leon and Peter
www.buthamburg.de

3 months later
#462 2 years ago

Will the new F14 playfields be ready soon ?

#463 2 years ago

Hello to all.

We have had some delay. The boads are getting primer now.
Ill update soon.

Regards from hamburg
Peter

3 weeks later
#464 2 years ago

Following. Any news?

#465 2 years ago

Hello to all.

We have a delay on printing. Boards are ready but we need to reprint more than half the run of Road Show.
The screens still have the Road Show in them, so we need to do them first. Here is what we posted .
As soon as we finished the Road Show printing, we will bring back the screens to get F-14 into them.
Sorry the delay.

Today was a day that we actualy didnt want to do our work. Unfurtunitly the clear coat foamed on 50% of the Road Show Playfields. The presure was set far to high in our system which caused this disaster. Today we sanded off the clear coat and the print. We will have to re-print these boards. We do have enough of Road Show playfields for those how pre-ordered. This will delay the F-14 for a couple of weeks and ofcourse further projects. Well that is live I gues, we didnt want to leave it that way, it was hard to notice but it is not our standard and the clear coat would not be as strong as it should. Work is finished now,

Regards from Hamburg
Leon and Peter

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#466 2 years ago

OUCH!

#467 2 years ago

Oof! That sucks. Appreciate the updates and transparency, hope the next run goes better.

9 months later
#468 1 year ago

Hello to all.
Here we go again, after a long wait for pigments and latley a bit of time off we could eventually start printing F-14 today. The white worked out well, was a bit tricky and we had to re adjust the paint a few times for it is to warm, the paint dries before it can level out.
White is on, next will be yellow. Maybe we can print 2 colors from now on.
We will keep updating.
Regards from Hamburg
Leon and Peter
www.buthamburg.de

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#469 1 year ago

Well worth the wait, Peter!

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#470 1 year ago

Hi
Last week Wednesday we wanted to print the next color, yellow. As we put in the screen, we noticed that the screen, the artwork , was copied in wrong, mirrored. We went through all screens and found a second wrong copied screen. We brought back the screens to the screen maker. Yesterday the screens were delivered. Today we tried to catch up, we printed 3 colors. Yellow orange and red. Now we are halway, 4 colors printed and 4 to go. We will try to print atleast 1 color a day. We would like to do it all in 1 go, but we have many jobs to do.
Hope you are enjoying to see how the print is building up slowly, color for color, genuen silk screening.

Regards from Hamburg
Leon and Peter
www.buthamburg.de

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#471 1 year ago

Hello again.
between milling Alien and Queen playfields, gluing inserts and packing parcels we printed 2 colors since the last update. We have the light blue and the dark blue printed. We still need the green and the the final, the black. The colors all came out perfect, the registration of the colors are nearly spot on. Difficult to print at the moment, the 1 day you have 31 degrees, the next morning it is 18 degrees. For each print the colors must be adjusted and the pressure of the squeegee reduced or aply more to control the size
of the print. The more presure, the more the screen streches.
Now we will mill a couple of hours and then off for this weekend.
Next week we will finish the printing. In that time we will hopefully have the gitares, ( mini playfield) for Queen finished milling, then we will through the F-14 on that milling machine for finish milling.
Hope you are injoying the process of printing.
Have a nice weekend
Regards from Hamburg
Leon and Peter

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#472 1 year ago

Today we finished printing the F-14 Playfields. They turn out fantastic.
Now we will let all paints cure for a few days and then start with the last milling step. After milling we will take them to the paint shop for clear coating.
Have a nice day
Regards from Hamburg
Leon and Peter
www.buthamburg.de

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#473 1 year ago
Quoted from Buthamburg:

Today we finished printing the F-14 Playfields. They turn out fantastic.
Now we will let all paints cure for a few days and then start with the last milling step. After milling we will take them to the paint shop for clear coating.
Have a nice day
Regards from Hamburg
Leon and Peter
www.buthamburg.de
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So worth the wait....!

1 month later
#474 1 year ago

Those look great! Will PPS be stocking these for US sales or is direct through your website the only channel?

Added 19 months ago:

Do you have an estimate on when these will be available to ship?

#476 1 year ago

We are planning to get the first on there way begining of Nov.
They are selling out fast, only a few left over.

#477 1 year ago

Is Peter making plastic sets also? How does the CPR F-14 plastic set match up to Peter's playfields?

#478 1 year ago
Quoted from ita47:

Is Peter making plastic sets also? How does the CPR F-14 plastic set match up to Peter's playfields?

They look darker when off but when the lights are on its a perfect match. Comet 2SMD Warm White for GI also, Sunlight for Inserts but Ice Blue underneath the Blue inserts look Great.

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#479 1 year ago

You better renew your tax license it's expired!

#480 1 year ago

Peter, just to be clear here: those of us thst reached out on got on thr list arr guaranteed a PF, correct?

I ask as we emailed earlier this year, and I know I'm in queue,but I have not received an email for "time to pay up".

Wanting to make sure I don't miss out on what I have committed to.

Thanks!

#481 1 year ago

Hello to all

We have sent out Emails requesting payment. Some didnt pay up yet. Mayber our Email landed in your spam folder.
Mail was sent on the 4th of Oct.

Regards from Hamburg
Leon and Peter

3 weeks later
#482 1 year ago
Quoted from Buthamburg:

We are planning to get the first on there way begining of Nov.
They are selling out fast, only a few left over.

Any news on shipping?

#483 1 year ago

Hello to all

Sorry the delay. The paint shop did not clear coat them yet. We were there yesterday again, they started to clear coat the F-14 yesterday.
We hope they will keep them in a warm room so we can start shipping out end of next week.

We are busy building our new facility, hope we can get all finished until Jan. 23 We will have our own paint booth. We will
also have a very modern sanding machine, electronically controlled. Having now all done in our own facility will speed up production
and cut the delays down. We have also imployed a painter.
Machines and Parts, also Parts for the paint booth will be delivered on the 28th and 29th Nov.

At this point we want to thank all for your patient and your trust, many thanks.
Regards from Hamburg
Leon and Peter

2 weeks later
#484 1 year ago

Hello to all

Yesterday we have started packing the F-14 Tom Cat playfields. While seeing through them we have noticed that some playfields
have Ghosting on edges on several inserts. On other playfields we found some inserts with tension cracks. This can only happen
during primer procedure, the paint shop has done something wrong while applying primer. We could not notice it for we get the boards
back sanded and the top of the inserts are then blunt. We regret this, we can’t send out the playfields like this. The only solution is to sand all off and start again.
This is a massive back blow for our company and a big disappointment. We can only apologize. We didn’t want to just send out the playfields like this, some look good but they will all have this problem. We can’t risk to send out the boards that look good, it would be a disaster if you finished assembling your game and then get hit with a Ghosting issue on the inserts.
We will start sanding the playfields down next week, get the tension cracked inserts swopped and see if we can get them primered before Christmas. We are busy printing Terminator 2 playfields. As soon as they are printed, we will get the screens to the screen maker to copy in F-14 again. Hopping that we can get all done until Feb – Mar. 2023.

The tension cracks happen once the primer is applied and, for some reason, there are other chemicals flying around in the air that will then react, or the wrong cleaner has been used and reacts. Another reason could be that the paint shop sanded throw the primer and then the cleaner chemically reacts. The last sound more reasonable at this moment for we have ghosting around the edges of the inserts.
Her are some pictures of the damages.

Sorry that this happened, we were working hard to get these F-14 playfields out tomorrow so that you could receive them before Christmas.

Regards from Hamburg
Leon and Peter

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#485 1 year ago

Damn, I'm just seeing this - sorry that happened to you Peter and to all those who are patiently waiting on their PFs!

2 weeks later
#486 1 year ago

Hello to all.
It has been some time were we updated. We have a delay but need to finish our new facility as quick as possible. We need to get the clear coating done our selves. The paint shop has messed up so much work, Not only the F-14 Playfields. We will get the paint booth finished in Feb and will beable to do the clear coating ourselves. Sorry, we know you are all waiting for your playfields and we are really pushing to get them done. They are sanded down and the damaged inserts have been taken out. Next week we will receive the new produced inserts. We will start gluing them as soon as they arrive.

In the mean time, a small update on our new facility.
We are getting on with the new facility. All the equiptment has been delivered and we could start building up the paintbooth. The paint booth is nearly finished, we are a bit further than the pictures are showing, the last wall of the paint booth is completed, next step is to pull in the ceeling. Small little things like lite and clean up the walls, paint them to get a smooth finishing.
Attached are some pictures.
We will get the paint booth finished next week. We will also get the air chanels mounted, incomming air with heating system and out going air with the filter system. That is all still a bit tricky, but then it will be easy going.
Then we still need to finish the walls for the curing rooms, that should go fast, straight forward walls, easy going.
We will place a new update soon.
Wish you all a nice Sunday.
Regards from Hamburg
Leon, Ron and Peter

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#487 1 year ago

Hello to all.
Here is a short video, F-14 Tom Cat, showing how we are sanding off the artwork and all down to the wood again. This step went real fast with the new sanding machine. What really took a long time was to take out the damaged inserts, 1 by one. Cant just hit them out for the wood will then get damaged.
We are trying to get them redone as fast as possible. Unfortunately
we must build our new facility and on top we still need to keep the production of Alien and Queen going.
At the same time we are preparing to print Terminator, as well as producing and packing plastic parts for shops worldwide.
We should be ready for printing the F-14 in approx. 3 weeks, the rest will be easy going.
We will update with new video and pictures of F-14 and T2 and once we get the next chance, some more info’s on the new facility.
Once the new facility is up and running, we will speed up our repro playfield production.
Next in the line will be Black Rose.
Have a nice day
Regards from Hamburg
Leon, Ron and Peter

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#488 1 year ago

We appreciate the updates, Peter. After seeing a new F-14 PF go into a game as recent as last month, this is well worth the wait.

#489 1 year ago

Can't wait to get a T-2 Playfield.

4 weeks later
#490 1 year ago

Is it too late to get on board ?

Regards

#491 1 year ago

Hello to all

A short update to the F-14 Tom Cat playfields.
First I want to apologize for the bad delay.

We are in a bad situation not able to do our actual work.
Since October we have rented a new facility, having to install electric, build up walls for paint booth, incoming, outgoing air channels and
curing rooms, setting up milling machines and the new sanding machine with vacuum unit and getting all the machinery moved over.
We had a lot of delays with the suppling companies for machinery, delay from week to week to months.
At the same time we needed to keep up the production for Pinball Brothers, Alien, and start the new model Queen.
Supply shops worldwide with spare parts. We are all exhausted, the work grew over our heads.
At the same time my Father was hit with a stroke, living alone, My wife and me had to also take care of him, he is now
able to walk a few steps and is making good progress. We had to quit his apartment and move all out, do wall work, taking out the complete kitchen until end of this month.
It is nearly done, 1 truck load to go, the land lord has inspected the apartment and is satisfied with our work. On Tuesday we will hand over keys.
The new facility is nearly built up so that we can at least start working, tomorrow we will do the electric for the incoming air, there is a heating system so we can also do clear coating in winter.
There is still a lot that needs to be done and I’m sure that while we are working we will need to do some changes, but the biggest job is done and we can start doing our work on playfields
very soon. We will not have to rely on the paint shop anymore and we have the control over the primer and clear coat work. F-14 will be the first boards that will receive primer
in the new facility, looking forward.

I want to express our heartily thanks to you all for your patients, we highly appreciate it.

Regards from Hamburg
Leon, Ron and Peter

1 month later
#492 1 year ago

Hello to all.

Our new facility is, so far, up and we can work. The main things have been finalized. Production is speed up now. There are still alot to do, building walls and rooms but we are set up and working.

Terminator 2 Playfields.
We have now started to print the Terminator 2 Judgement Day playfields. The white and the 3 gray shades are printed. Alltogether it is 11 colors, 7 more to go. Tomorrow we will continue.

F-14 Tom Cat Playfields
We have taken out the brocken inserts and replaced them with new inserts. The boards will be ready for printing as soon as we finished printing T2. Once T2 is finished, we will take the screens to the screen maker and get F-14 copied into them. It looks like we can get the screens to the screem maker by end of next week. We will try and push them a bit.
Thanky you for all your patients, we really appriciate it.
Looking forward to get the F-14 finalized again.
Allthough the errors in the batch could not be seen by many people
we still could not send them out knowing about these issues, it might have gone good, but we didnt just want to send them out like that. We are very greatfull that 80% of the paid pre-orders are prepared to wait until the playfield are redone. Many many thanks.

We wish all a nice weekend
Regards from Hamburg
Ron, Leon and Peter

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#493 1 year ago

Is black rose still getting made?

#494 1 year ago

Yes, we will start soon with Black Rose. After T2 is printed, we will print F-14.
We will start milling Black Rose and get inserts glued.

#495 1 year ago

Good morning,

I sent a few emails over the last few weeks to be on the waiting list for T2 and F14 playfield, but given your workload I assume you did not have a chance to respond, could you please confirm you did receive it ?

Cheers

#496 1 year ago
Quoted from Ashram56:

Good morning,
I sent a few emails over the last few weeks to be on the waiting list for T2 and F14 playfield, but given your workload I assume you did not have a chance to respond, could you please confirm you did receive it ?
Cheers

Will they be able to identify your email, by your username here on Pinside?

#497 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinballer73:

Will they be able to identify your email, by your username here on Pinside?

I provided my username in the email I sent them

#498 1 year ago
Quoted from Buthamburg:

Hello to all
Yesterday we have started packing the F-14 Tom Cat playfields. While seeing through them we have noticed that some playfields
have Ghosting on edges on several inserts. On other playfields we found some inserts with tension cracks. This can only happen
during primer procedure, the paint shop has done something wrong while applying primer. We could not notice it for we get the boards
back sanded and the top of the inserts are then blunt. We regret this, we can’t send out the playfields like this. The only solution is to sand all off and start again.
This is a massive back blow for our company and a big disappointment. We can only apologize. We didn’t want to just send out the playfields like this, some look good but they will all have this problem. We can’t risk to send out the boards that look good, it would be a disaster if you finished assembling your game and then get hit with a Ghosting issue on the inserts.
We will start sanding the playfields down next week, get the tension cracked inserts swopped and see if we can get them primered before Christmas. We are busy printing Terminator 2 playfields. As soon as they are printed, we will get the screens to the screen maker to copy in F-14 again. Hopping that we can get all done until Feb – Mar. 2023.
The tension cracks happen once the primer is applied and, for some reason, there are other chemicals flying around in the air that will then react, or the wrong cleaner has been used and reacts. Another reason could be that the paint shop sanded throw the primer and then the cleaner chemically reacts. The last sound more reasonable at this moment for we have ghosting around the edges of the inserts.
Her are some pictures of the damages.
Sorry that this happened, we were working hard to get these F-14 playfields out tomorrow so that you could receive them before Christmas.
Regards from Hamburg
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Out of curiosity, you're saying this issue is caused by the primer ? What could cause the primer to do that ?

#499 1 year ago

Hi.
I just checked but could find an email with your user name. We dont have track on users names, only on email adresse.
It looks like the paint shop didnt apply the primer decently, or the sanded it to much and took it off again. I think second is
more relavent.
We are very busy at this time, still need to build alot in the new facility and we need to catch up months and months of work.
Screens will be taken to the screen maker on Monday to get F-14 copied into them.
I will answer all unread emails over the week end, appologize for the delayed answer.

Regards from Hamburg
Leon, Ron and Peter

1 month later
#500 10 months ago

Hello to all.
We have started to print the F-14 Tom Cat playfields. We have printed the white and the yellow.
We have had some nerve wrecking waiting time for the screens to be made, eventually they were delivered. We had to use sticky tape over the complete back side of the boards to close all the holes. If the holes stay open we cannot build up vacuum to hold the boards in position while printing them. To 2 and a half days, need to be very neat, not 1 fold, so the boards will lay flat on the vacuum table.
The outcome of the print is very nice, weather is warmer, the paints flow nicely.
We will try to print at least 1 color every day, we will push hard to get these done as soon as possible.

Regards from Hamburg,
Leon, Ron and Peter

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