The thing with Shadow...as good as it is, I’m not sure it’s worth some of the going rates these days. For about the same or a few hundred more, a guy could get a Game of Thrones pro, or Metallica pro. Way better sound and lights and deeper.

Ha...well the thing is RBION is 100% aboot the outlane settings as the space betwixed the flippers is small. If you tighten them down you can play forever; leave them open and it's side drain all day.

Totally agree on Metallica, but I can’t think of one significant area that Game of Thrones excels compared to Shadow... Toys? No way. Layout? Scoring balance? Art? Audio? Nope! Rules? Maybe.

Oh rules and strategeries for sure.

WAT

Some of the modes are MBs and the main MB is easy to get...so in that way it can be friendly, but overall it isn't on the easy side. The mode start/vari-target is probably the hardest shot you need to hit, and it isn't the worst. Also has the 3rd flipper like most PL games so that's some added fun for people...if they remember to use it.

Not sure how deep compared to the others, but I think Whirlwind is a solid title at a good price these days.

Of the games discussed so far in this thread, I own several, here's my take in order of depth:

TSPP: One of the deepest ever! Unlikely to find at $3500.

RBION: Great game! Deep rules. Often many different ways to play strategically in any given situation. Atlantis and Frog Frenzy can be very difficult/rare to get depending on game setup.

TFTC: A slight edge in terms of depth over LAH. Not a family friendly theme.

LAH: Lots of great mode and the possibility for strategic stacking. Wizard mode is a bit meh unless you get Caker's code.

NBAFB: Great rules and a very fun game for casual and experienced players alike. A lot of modes and getting a single ring, let alone 4, can be challenging. Not much strategic stacking, but there is definitely a lot of opportunity for other strategy in how to play. That being said, the rules are probably more broad than deep.

Maverick: Wizard mode is not easy to get to and there is definitely a lot of strategic possibilities, but with only 5 modes plus the poker hands, I'm not sure it's a deep rule set. However, it may be one of the deepest pins strategically for such a "compact" rule set. A single strategic misstep can really impact your score, but you always have the opportunity to score big. For some reason, the basic rules are a little difficult to grasp unless explained. 17 drop targets! Great bang for the buck.

I don't know about that, there were 2 nice Shadows sold or 1 was sold and one may still be for sale listed at 2700 and 2800, I bought one of them and it's awesome. I'm not a fan of GOT and don't know the asking prices but Met is a great pin and most I've seen are 2k above these shadow prices. Even if the Shadow were priced at 3500 that's a pretty big price difference.

RBION is one of those games that could be really hit or miss for pinheads and non-pinheads alike

Plus one...lovin' my JD...always for a tumble (so to speak)........