(Topic ID: 276889)

Dear Tim Arnold, please, pretty please, dump the ROM from The Pinball

By oldbaby

3 years ago


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#1 3 years ago

Dear @timarnold
Please, please, please allow someone to come by and upload the rom from The Pinball Circus. If the ROM was public, people could:
1. Analyze it. People think it's a simple game, and it is, but from what I've seen it seems like analysis of the ROM would turn up some interesting details.
2. Make a vpx table. (theoretically)
3. Preserve it from being lost.
I am very interested in this ROM, and I don't want it to get lost forever like other digital media has been.

If you want money, I think a lot of people would be willing to pay you. Myself included.

Circus Maximus, if you have a copy of the ROM, then I would be similarly grateful to you. Whether or not you are willing to dump it, it would be good to know that you have it. If you also have the ROM, it would make it less likely to be lost forever.
Thank you for your consideration, and thank you for the great business you run

(For those who don't know, uploading a ROM is called "dumping" it)

#2 3 years ago

You may ask Circus Maximus team. They have built a prototype with a working ROM.

https://www.circusmaximusgames.com/

#3 3 years ago
Quoted from noitbe1:

You may ask Circus Maximus team. They have built a prototype with a working ROM.
https://www.circusmaximusgames.com/

Oh. I figured they probably had a copy of the ROM, but it's good to know for sure. Thank you for the information. I didn't know they built a prototype, that's my ignorance showing. I'll reach out to Circus Maximus.

#4 3 years ago

This is actually a good idea to preserve the info. But with the possibility of a remake being produced there is no way that it would happen. The last thing the Circus Maximus team would want is a digital virtual machine (vpx)coming out before they produce a real machine for sales. It would possibly kill their efforts.
-Mike

#5 3 years ago

Lols, I can think of two other places the ROM is (one of them was asked and politely refused)

#6 3 years ago
Quoted from PopBumperPete:

Lols, I can think of two other places the ROM is (one of them was asked and politely refused)

Do you know where the mythical 3rd Pinball Circus is?!? Plenty have said, including the folks from Williams that the 3rd machine was never made and only 2 prototypes exist. But the rumor of a 3rd has lingered on. I wouldn’t put it past anyone.

#7 3 years ago
Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

Do you know where the mythical 3rd Pinball Circus is?!? Plenty have said, including the folks from Williams that the 3rd machine was never made and only 2 prototypes exist. But the rumor of a 3rd has lingered on. I wouldn’t put it past anyone.

PPS would have the ROM files

#8 3 years ago

Even if the ROM doesn't get released for 20 years, the important thing is that it doesn't get lost. So it's good news that a lot of people have the ROM.

#9 3 years ago

What we really need is this ROM:
https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1465

Ron...

#10 3 years ago

I'd also love to get the ROMs for the SS Sega of Japan games that still exist in Japanese collections.
https://ipdb.org/search.pl?searchtype=advanced&mfgid=279
Unfortunately the Sega of Japan games that Bruce Tsuji-sama ( onemoretime ) has in his pinside account seem to all be EMs.

#11 3 years ago

Here's the response I got from Circus Maximus, (along with my original email)

"Thanks for contacting us.

I'll have to go back and look and see if we have the original ROM. I'm
sure we can get it as we have an agreement with Planetary Pinball, so we
have access to anything they have access to regarding Pinball Circus,
but we didn't use it for the prototype we built.

I'm not entirely sure if they'd allow us to upload the ROM though, but
I'll check.

We have the original sound recordings and music recordings for the game,
along with several of the DMD animations, which is what we used to run
our prototype we built using the PinHeck board that runs the first few
Spooky games. Ultimately it will run on a PROC system like the newer
Spooky games, American Pinball games, and Multimorphic games though.

Our main goal with Pinball Circus is to fulfill our promise to Python to
get at least 13 of them built, and put it into production if there is
enough interest. It's to honor his legacy.

Check back with me in a few months as right now we are fairly focused on
finishing up Kingpin and getting it into production, but I'll see what I
can do with the ROMs.

Paul

On 9/7/20 3:28 AM, [name redacted] wrote:
> From: [name redacted] <[email]>
> Subject: The Pinball Circus ROM
>
> Message Body:
> Dear Circus Maximus Team,
> Let me start off with a little bit of sucking up. I love that you're planning to mass produce Kingpin, and I love that you're adding new rules to it too. I also love that you're interested in mass producing The Pinball Circus. Please know that I am being sincere.
> With that out of the way, I have one question.
> 1. Would you be willing to upload The Pinball Circus ROM? Pretty please?
> Thank you in advance for your consideration. If you do decide to upload the ROM, then I and anyone else with an interest in the crucial piece of pinball culture that is TPC will be forever grateful."

#12 3 years ago
Quoted from oldbaby:

Here's the response I got from Circus Maximus, (along with my original email)
"Thanks for contacting us.
I'll have to go back and look and see if we have the original ROM. I'm
sure we can get it as we have an agreement with Planetary Pinball, so we
have access to anything they have access to regarding Pinball Circus,
but we didn't use it for the prototype we built.
I'm not entirely sure if they'd allow us to upload the ROM though, but
I'll check.
We have the original sound recordings and music recordings for the game,
along with several of the DMD animations, which is what we used to run
our prototype we built using the PinHeck board that runs the first few
Spooky games. Ultimately it will run on a PROC system like the newer
Spooky games, American Pinball games, and Multimorphic games though.
Our main goal with Pinball Circus is to fulfill our promise to Python to
get at least 13 of them built, and put it into production if there is
enough interest. It's to honor his legacy.
Check back with me in a few months as right now we are fairly focused on
finishing up Kingpin and getting it into production, but I'll see what I
can do with the ROMs.
Paul
On 9/7/20 3:28 AM, [name redacted] wrote:
> From: [name redacted] <[email]>
> Subject: The Pinball Circus ROM
>
> Message Body:
> Dear Circus Maximus Team,
> Let me start off with a little bit of sucking up. I love that you're planning to mass produce Kingpin, and I love that you're adding new rules to it too. I also love that you're interested in mass producing The Pinball Circus. Please know that I am being sincere.
> With that out of the way, I have one question.
> 1. Would you be willing to upload The Pinball Circus ROM? Pretty please?
> Thank you in advance for your consideration. If you do decide to upload the ROM, then I and anyone else with an interest in the crucial piece of pinball culture that is TPC will be forever grateful."

Thanks for sharing, especially the news on Kingpin! Looking forward to placing an order for that game.

1 month later
#13 3 years ago

I really hope they come through with Pinball Circus eventually. It's my grail pin. Gonna be worth the wait.

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