https://www.marvel.com/articles/gear/marvel-and-stern-pinball-announce-new-deadpool-pinball-machines

"That freedom gives fans an extra special bonus as all Premium models will include a custom “Deadpool’s Mix Tape” cassette featuring 11 original music tracks with sleeve art by Zombie Yeti. And the Limited Edition, limited to 500 units globally, includes a 12” Vinyl LP featuring 11 original music tracks with cover art by Zombie Yeti."

Pretty awesome idea. Way cooler than some chintzy cassette tape. The LP could actually turn out to be a collectable.

I'd hope so. Would be a big selling point for the LE.

It's not like that would be difficult or prohibitively expensive to make a limited run of 500 LPs. Bands with no money and members who borrow their girlfriends' car to get to gigs have been doing it for decades.

LOL @ that writing over the right flipper. Most meta thing ever on a pinball game?

Rollergames.

Same layout as rollergames!

Except those cheap bastards at Stern found a way to get rid of the 3rd flipper! Evil Geniuses.

We all know you aren't into games that are actually available for purchase within weeks of a reveal.

Pie in the sky vaporware is so much sexier!

I think this whole "main toy" fetish thing has to go. People sound like 8 year olds: "I WANT MY TOY!"

There are so many shitty games with a great toy.

Maiden - and TNA for that matter- proved that the "toys" people want are well designed games with good code and art that play well and are on the production line.

Other recent toy-filled reveals have shown the problems that building your entire game - and your entire business model - around "toys" can lead to.

It could indeed be a way of cutting development time/costs. A clever way of doing it.

People want code but LCD is the greatest time/resources suck of all with the least benefit to the final package and the player. I think we all need to stop expecting movie quality animation on games that don't have already created movie assets to rely on. It's just not a good use of resources for something that doesn't really matter much. Going forward in the LCD era, it's going to be very important for manufacturers to figure out how to deal with the new tech without allowing their games to get bogged down during pre-production.

Look at TNA - the animations are shit! And nobody cares.

I'm not a collector, but my priorities are layout/rules, then art, with display a distant 3rd. I think more collectors may be coming around to this.

So the video game pro thinks it looks lame and everybody else likes it.

This is pinball, not video games. This is a pinball crowd, not a video game crowd.

You are allowed to do whatever you want, but this is a pinball game not a video game so not sure if your design credentials are supposed to give your opinion extra weight. This isn't the first time you've pulled this card.

Aurich - another know it all who is "in the business" - says you are wrong, and Stern saves no money by going Turbo-Graffix 16.

So who are we supposed to believe, the guy who we all know was directly involved in (granted a disastrous) pinball machine development, or some rando who is always telling us he's an expert?

Either way, it's clearly a BOOOOOOM!

Aren't people paying an additional $300 so they can get their WPC remakes with 16-bit graffix? And here is Stern, just giving it away for free!! What a bunch of great guys, and in no way evil!

I like where you are going with this. Please expand upon it!

Look dude, I'm sorry, if you want to have your "I told you so!" cake, you gotta do some homework and cite specific examples. Or else we'll just have people BWHWAHAHAHAHAing left and right without any evidence, and that's bad for all of us. Put in a little effort here, guy!

Yep, seems like pretty much the worst thing to happen to pinball developers. We really should have just stuck with DMD and moved to color - they look great, are the perfect size, and aren't a black hole for resources.

I may be internet cool, but I'll never be "BWAHAHAHAHA internet cool.

And that sucks.

BOOOOOOM!

And for the record nobody complained about DMDs. THey looked great, were the perfect size, and were a notable upgrade from the alphanumerics that came before. All I remember hearing about them from players at the time was how cool they were.

As said above, LCDs are really just a facelift, not a dramatic improvement. It's arguable they are worse from a player perspective. And coders hate them.

Many people I know have record players - it's not exactly a rarity anymore. LPs have been on a slow but steady comeback for a long time. I've never in my life not had a working record player, but honestly I don't use it much anymore. I still buy an occasional LP as they look great and are cool collector's items but like everybody else I use the code and download the MP3 and listen to that as it's simply so much more convinient.

Cassettes are a total novelty. I seriously don't know anybody who still has a working cassette deck, except for one friend with a 20 year-old GMC that I borrow sometimes for pin moves. I found a bunch of my old tapes and threw them in the glovebox so I can listen to Sabbath and old-school rap when I move a game. I don't really understand cassette collecting even as a novelty as they are incredibly small and the artwork looks bad shrunken down.

I don't really have anything negative to say about ANYTHING manufacturers put out lately, and I hold back quite a bit as I have friends at almost all of the companies these days. If you are really paying attention you'd notice that.

Why do you want me to bitch about stuff? There's already hundreds of armchair QBs and fanboys doing that already, and they are much more dedicated to it and colorful about it than I would ever be. Like you said, I don't buy the games, I just play them, and I'm not emotionally invested and obsessed with this stuff like the people who are throwing mortgage payments away on them. I think my talents at this particular time are better used pointing out how ridiculous many of the complaints are, and trying to give people some perspective that many here are sorely lacking, both about the games, the business, and buyers' expectations.

If you read between the lines, you know which games I like and which ones I don't, and which games and manufacturers I prefer to others. If you don't, feel free to ask me I'll tell you.

That Levi was about to get banned for life.

I still gotta sell games here ya know!

I think what it comes down to is they've "upped their game" when it comes to reveals. The trailer is great. Good timing. They got some excitement going. Went a lot smoother than say, the Batman 66 reveal.

That's really all anybody cares about around here anyhow.

You are kidding right?

Nah, we know you, and you aren't.

They hype ALWAYS lasts "one day." That's how it is. There's only so many people around to either post "this rules!" or "where's the toys?!" When there's a gameplay reveal there will be fresh hype and we can spend another day on it. And so on and so on. And then the game comes out and everybody is begging for the next reveal. We've been through this a million times.

Why are you playing dumb? The fact is Stern has been through this cycle about THREE TIMES since we've last heard anything new from all the other companies.

That alone shows Stern is doing it right. You get a boom, followed by another boom, followed by a big boom, and then on to the next game. You don't go for a HUGE boom and then don't release a game for a year, which seems to be the general MO from most of the other companies.

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Now you are moving the goal posts, clumsily.

Maiden is selling. But is there a FIRE next to every maiden thread? Of course not. That's the "hype" we are discussing.

I'm not asking you to give Stern a blow job so you can put away your knee pads, but it's silly to pretend they didn't get this reveal right.

You nailed it dude. Your photo illustration is undeniable proof.

Every pinball machine ever made is a "standard fan layout."

It is relentless, and let's face it, just a little bit evil.

ANOTHER MAJOR BOOM!!!!

Again, it really does show the resources that a company like Stern has that others don't.

Yup.

It's almost like they are a real pinball company or something.

I'm not dumb enough to pre-order from any establishment that I know cannot deliver.

FALSE!

Where there's a boom, there's a way...

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You said it man

To answer your question: you should buy the LE.

It's almost as if the people at Stern are human after all!

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It would be even more amazing if they sold them for $3000!

The rules are it’s stupid to care about that.

If it bothers you, best thing to do is turn off downvotes. You will never see a downvote, and you can’t leave anybody a downvote either.

So I got a friend who just won’t shut the F up about how Deadpool is bi/poly/Pansexual whatever and what a historic boom this is

Anybody spot anything particularly bi/poly/Pan in the stream last night?

The streams are fantastic and more is better. That’s the world we live in now people expect as much info as they can possibly digest

You think it’s too much? Don’t watch it. I don’t care about this stuff so I don’t watch more than a couple minutes. I’ll discover the game for myself next week.

Yeah, the "it's a forum!" response is quickly becoming the lamest and most rote, eclipsed only by the godforsaken cargument.

I've played this game a bunch the last couple of days.

My impression is it's standard Stern fare, not among their best but should be a good location game. I'm not a huge fan of the playfield design, it's got some of that signature late-model Gomez clunk, most namely the sword ramp, which is a bit of a crapshoot whether or not you'll make it, and especially the area to the left of the scoop. Not sure exactly what's going on up there. Basically whenever I expect the game to flow, it doesn't.

Rules, animation, sound, art is all pretty cool. If you are a big Deadpool fan (I'm not) you'd probably be happy with it.