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Deadpeel

By wolfemaaan

5 years ago


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    #106 5 years ago

    Just MHO but if the playfield is dimpled, doesn't that mean the clear coat is inherently dimpled? The wood cannot be affected without going thru the clear coat, is what I am stating. So the clear coat has to be part of the issue, if not all of it. Maybe more recent pins have thicker clear coat or I guess, thinner clear coat if the wood is being impacted. I am not sure it is a wood issue entirely.

    It's kind of like the arguments about why in MLB, there are so many more home runs than in the past. Could be the balls changed, could be the bats changed, could be the players changed. Could be the speed of balls being pitched has increased. With pins, air balls are definitely a part of the problem, so what causes them? In MMR, the troll popups sometimes happen when a ball is passing overhead and the glass gets smashed, with a long drop to the playfield. Having the Mantis castle protector contributes to airballs on castle strikes. In general though, maybe certain manufacturers have flipper setups that have stronger coils. Who knows?

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    #164 5 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    Most HUO games will NEVER even get 10,000 plays, let alone the zillions of plays it takes to smooth them out.
    I service people's games all the time and I always laugh how few plays they have on them.
    One customer, who is the nicest guy in the world, only has a TRON and a TFLE, both that "he plays all the time" and last time I checked he had 500 plays on one of them and 350 on the other.
    He has every available mod installed on both games, but he must spend more time decorating them than playing them.
    Both his playfields will be cratered like the moon for his entire life.

    "I service people's games all the time and I always laugh how few plays they have on them..So the luithers get tired of the same nonsense being posted every week." I guess you could include your number of plays conclusion that the guy is a pinball poser in the same category when everyone knows the number of plays can be easily reset. Maybe he does play the pins all the time and just recently reset the settings.

    #166 5 years ago
    Quoted from moto_cat:

    Highly unlikely if he’s paying someone to service his games..

    "I service people's games all the time and I always laugh how few plays they have on them". Well if the guy reads Pinside he's probably laughing back, knowing that he reset the number of plays to fool with you.

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    #169 5 years ago
    Quoted from Russell:

    I certainly believe that dimples are normal, and I believe in the infinite dimples=smooth playfield concept. However, I had one game that I think was an exception. Amazing condition. I wish I had more definitive pictures... I heard it was something about the way Sonic coated their play fields. Apparently they used some toxic chemicals that are no longer allowed. Can anyone confirm?
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    I am not an expert but my NBAFB is not dimpled like Stern machines are. I think that stern is using more clear coat and it is dimpling differently, but that's just a guess on my part. Interesting subject, well covered already though in the forums.

    #174 5 years ago

    Imron 2 component hardcoat- Diamondplate

    http://www.flippers.be/pinball_playfields.html

    #178 5 years ago
    Quoted from Yoko2una:

    Ah shit. Looks like American Pinball needs to close up shop too!
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    Houdini has acne!

    #179 5 years ago

    Interesting article. Pat Lawlor first pursued automotive clear as a playfield coat and afterward felt it was a mistake because pins were not as disposable and replaceable by operators because the playfields lasted a long time, hurting sales at Williams (and Gottlieb too), and ultimately contributing to the demise of pinball in the late '90s.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/62638-13-when-williams-start-clearcoat

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