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Deadpeel

By wolfemaaan

5 years ago


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    #4 5 years ago

    Under the right light...this is what a WPC playfield with dimples can look like.

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    #24 5 years ago
    Quoted from Concretehardt:

    I completely agree! The rating system is broken. The OP should have his rating privlages revoked for abuse of the system IMHO.

    Note that after a certain number of flags, a review is no longer included in the overall rating for a game.

    #58 5 years ago
    Quoted from HighVoltage:

    Aren't dimples supposed to be from impacting the wood, but this is the insert. So is this poor clear or what?

    Quoted from vid1900:

    There is a square of Mylar over that insert.

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    #80 5 years ago
    Quoted from wolfemaaan:

    How does a brand new pin get dimples?

    The ball making contact with the surface of the playfied.

    #91 5 years ago
    Quoted from CNKay:

    All I know is that crap won't happen with a deeproot machine. Remember a sledgehammer will be put to playfield and if it make a mark it won't ship.

    Could be a prop foam sledge hammer for all we know

    #93 5 years ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    I have 30 year old machines that don't have anything like that on them

    30-year-old machines have had 30 years and tens of thousands of plays for the dimpling to even out.

    The photos you're seeing of new games are, what, weeks old with a couple hundred plays at most?

    #95 5 years ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    That doesn't even sound plausible. Even with 1000's of plays much of the play areas would be uneven because certain areas get more wear than others. They are not miraculously going to be even from the ball rolling on it. You would see large dimples where balls dropped over and over smooth out but still sit lower than the rest of the pf.

    Take a look at the photo I posted of the AFM earlier.

    The area where balls don't go is perfectly smooth. The areas the balls can access are uneven, but not by very much. Wood can only compress so much, so dimples aren't very deep. 1mm at most, maybe?

    Yes, some of the issue could be (and probably is) the materials being used today, or possibly the newness of the material (as in the wood not being completely dried, or the clear not being fully cured). But you still have dimpling either way, and it eventually evens out. Most of the time it isn't even noticeable because the dimples are shallow and the light has to hit them just right to reveal them.

    This is not the first thread about this issue.

    What I'd like to see is someone take a modern playfield and add some sort of a cyclical mechanism that continuously drops and rolls balls across the playfield and measure how long it takes for everything to even out.

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