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Quoted from vid1900:You do know that tools come in different grades, right?
First hits on Google:
https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/86414562
And that's the cheap version. The good one has cast iron: https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/04025292
Quoted from erak:But in the 20 years I've been collecting pins and the 35+ years I've been playing them.
I haven't seen this level of dimpling in a new pin HUO or routed untill 2013.
Ghost Hunters gets lots of viewers on TV too. If you have evidence to support your claims let's see it.
Quoted from kvan99:The deep dimpling is on the recent games
How deep? How many games? Is it a single outlier or a trend? You need data to back up your claims. Let's see the data.
Procrastinator 's post is here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/live-dimple-quest-the-ultimate-test#post-3963579
His hardness test showed the following:
92 Stern 2016 Ghostbusters pro
119 Chicago Gaming 2015 MedMad
133 Stern 2016 Ghostbusters pre
138 Stern 2003 Simpsons
155 Stern 2011 TRON
157 Stern 2013 Metallica
161 Stern 2013 Star Trek
163 JJP 2016 Hobbit
170 Bally 1995 Theatre of Magic
177 Bally 1995 Attack from Mars
178 Stern 2009 Rings LE
181 Williams 1997 Gofers
184 JJP 2013 WoZ
Did Mirco do all JJP playfields? Maybe he has some useful data.
All datasets have patterns and humans are evolved to notice patterns. They may or may not be useful patterns.
Quoted from kvan99:Whaaa? You just posted the data you're asking for...? That's not enough to at least tell you that not all pfs are the same? What do you want me to do, tabulate all of the dimples on a pf so you can have a bar graph? Umm, that's ok...
Now you've switched from "deep dimples" to "not all playfields are the same". Statistical analysis is hard. I don't blame you for not wanting to put in the work to get the answers. No one else wants to put in the work either. You're not helping anyone by assuming you've found the answer without the data to back it up.
Quoted from kvan99:I have some, no prob, I'll be in Michigan in a couple of months, I'd appreciate it if you let me know where you got that BM66 SLE routed so I can play a few games on it.
Funny you should ask, one of the Pinball Map guys sent me the SLE info not a half hour ago. Five on location world-wide:
> ---------------------------------------> nyc | 4008 | Pioneers
> Batman 66 (Super LE) | 2729> japan | 10237 | The SILVER BALL PLANET
> Batman 66 (Super LE) | 2729> detroit | 4952 | Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum
> Batman 66 (Super LE) | 2729> brisbane | 9971 | Timezone Coolangatta
> Batman 66 (Super LE) | 2729> louisville | 4844 | Zanzabar
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