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DE - Phantom of the Opera, what's the story?

By Rando

3 years ago


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#9 3 years ago

You would probably have a lot better luck in the Phantom thread
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/phantom-of-the-opera-club-owners-and-fans-welcome
It's actually a great machine, one of my favorites of that era. It is an incredible art package with killer sound.
They toys easily compete with anything of the era.
It is a Data East with Data East flippers so if you expect it to flip like a different company it wont.
I own a Jurassic Park and a Phantom and I don't get why people have so many problems with them, mine have never given me an issue.
My Bram Stokers Dracula on the other hand with those optos is ten times as much trouble.

#18 3 years ago

Yeah the cabinet thing is really weird of all the things to complain about, I will take my 30 year old Data East Cabinet over a brand new Stern. Both my Data East were in way better shape than my Williams BSD.

The flipper thing I didn't mean the actual shots on the machine, I just meant the flipper mechs are kinda loud and powerful as is common to Data East.

#20 3 years ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

Part number on the Lethal Weapon 3 flipper coil is a Stern 090-5001-OT (23-800) used on the following.
DATA EAST: Back to the Future, Batman, Checkpoint, Guns N Roses, Hook, Jurassic Park, Laser War, Last Action Hero, Lethal Weapon 3, Monday Night Football, Phantom of the Opera, Playboy 35th, Robocop, Rocky and Bullwinkle, Royal Rumble (WWF), Secret Service, Simpsons, Star Trek, Star Wars, Tales From the Crypt, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Time Machine, Tommy, Torpedo Alley, WWF Royal Rumble
SEGA: Batman Forever, Lost World Jurassic Park, Twister
STERN PINBALL: Austin Powers, Avatar, Batman, Big Buck Hunter Pro, CSI, Dale Jr., Elvis, Elvis Gold, Family Guy, Grand Prix, Harley Davidson, High Roller Casino, Indiana Jones, Iron Man, Lord of the Rings, Monopoly, NASCAR, NBA, NFL Pinballs (all teams), Pirates of the Caribbean, Playboy, Ripley's Believe it or Not!, Roller Coaster Tycoon, Sharkey's Shootout, Shrek, Simpsons Pinball Party, Sopranos, Spider-Man, Striker Xtreme, Terminator 3, TRON Legacy, Wheel of Fortune, World Poker Tour
I just ordered two for my LW3. The flippers really should be no more or less powerful as the machines listed above. Flipper pawl crank is same part number as well. There could be a difference on the flipper control boards, but I don't have that information.
I do find the 80s Williams and Gottlieb flippers to be on the weak side (Gottlieb more so) so maybe in comparison the DE ones are "strong"

Yeah I find my Sega Lost World and my AC/DC feel pretty much the same as my Data East. My BSD and when I had a Pinbot they felt very different, I think it is compared to Bally Williams that Data East flippers feel so strong.

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