Quoted from VividPsychosis:
The issue you all are having is by thinking these are the people who took your money....it isn’t. It isn’t the same company, it isn’t the same people. they just kept same name.... so if you wanna sue these new people who have nothing to do with stealing your money go for it. But be aware, that if you do, you likely just ruined any chance of getting your money or your game. International lawsuits don’t usually go well in regard to monetary payments. Their laws aren’t like American laws when it comes to payment, also, they could just claim bankruptcy and not pay any of you.....and you will fuck everyone else because you couldn’t wait a year for new investors to pay you back money they didn’t even take from you or make you a game that they already said they were gonna make you as they had the funds for it. (And no they shouldn’t have the funds for it from your money, cause Andrew spent that, not them.)
What if the new investors just closed up shop, reopened open shop with a new name and continued to make the game as is after buying the use of ip rights given to Andrew.... then you all would be sol.... but I guess you don’t think about that. If you wanna sue someone, sue Andrew the person. This new company has already released a memo about them being silent and their plan to make you whole.
Totally agree with the tenor of the post, but one correction ... they assumed directorial control of the existing company. In my view it was a major misstep for them to take on the company as a going concern. They felt they knew how bad the situation with the machine's design was, how much had to be done, how much debt, how many lies, how much dishonesty, how much would have to be done to make all the botched prototypes sold to paying customers 'production'. AFAIK they were wrong on all counts. Some of them badly.
But for the people with skin still in this to throw their toys out of the pram and blame the guys who came in to try to rescue them, is not just shooting themselves in the foot, but the face.
The company was totally done, and no-one else was going to come in. It was over in June, and the proceeds of any subsequent liquidations would not have extended beyond the first category of preferred creditors, let alone to customers with deposits or full machines paid for. They could have pursued Andrew through the judicial process, for all his lies and misrepresentations, but likely wouldn't have seen a penny from it even if he was locked up.
This is an attempted rescue. The investors lose money every single day doing this. They are expending their money to try to help you. It seems almost impossible that they will ever reach break even, with Alien / FTh in production, given everything that is happening.
I think they've made a number of mistakes, but they are NOT to blame for this situation any more than the people with money in.
If anyone deserves the ire and vitriol, it's you-know-who.
Quoted from jonesjb:
Also, I don’t get it. Why pay in full when providing a $1,500 deposit will preorder the same game, lock you in at the price, and have less risk exposure. Please understand I’m sympathetic to worries and I hope everyone gets their refund or game... I genuinely would like to understand rationale.
A lot of people seemed to think they could make a deal with the devil and get away with it, despite knowing that all was not right. A very small % of them got a game, but as they quickly found out, one that wasn't by even the furthest stretch production ready, and in a number of cases barely even functioned on the most basic level. Without the new guys trying as best they can to fix things, all of these machines would be virtually worthless, as even the more reliable ones would eventually become unplayable bricks.
Others simply hadn't been following the happenings, didn't believe another Kulek / JPop type situation could manifest itself, or were just generally naive and hadn't encountered such chicanery before.