Higuys, just came across your desw thread. I used to have a desw game, had to sell when i moved, always missed it, just purchased another one to kick off new game room. I have been in the process of cleaning it up, lots of work to do even though pretty decent shape. I am at page 6 so far but wanted to ask a couple questions-

I have my mpu packed to send to chris hibler for repair, knocker and flasher wont fire. It seems to be a common issue with this game. Thoughts?

My center ramp is needing repair, tabs broke, i had a friend weld it but it cracked again. I saw some tig posts but thought i would ask if anyone had a good lead?

I could have sworn my original first game has a painted glass translite. This game is a mylar or sim material. Were these games originally painted glass or both?

I have installed a speaker pro kit, led, and was working on ocd setup when i got sidetracked with the board issues. I have a pinsound board sitting in a box, cant wait to install one i get these bigger issues resolved. Thanks for any advice!

I was thinking about removing some of the inside paint of the deathstar also. Looks cool. Thanks for the photos.

Hey guys I am close to completing a restoration! I have a few questions so please let me know if you can. I will post some photos when done, I replaced all the plastics, LED, Pinsound, speaker kit, etc. Game looks great!

First question. I cannot get the game to the correct angle. I thought the level vile was just off but I just purchased a TSPP game and can see how much more angle that game is and now also see how slow the SW game is so it definitely needs to be a higher pitch. Seems like an easy adjust but the rear feet are all the way down (high) and the fronts are all the way in and it is nowhere close to the proper angle. The front and rear legs are the same size. Is this correct or is the rear leg supposed to be longer than the front?

I have a couple left over plastics from the kit. Any idea where these go? It appears that the small blue piece goes behind the use the force hole but there is now a flasher there and maybe a design change? I see nowhere the clear plastic would even fit.

BTW, I just got the cpu board repair and center ramp repairs made and if anyone needs this service let me know and will forward the names of the folks that did these services.

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Hi, just reading through old posts. Came across this and wondering if anyone knows where to buy playfield protector? How has it held up? My game is in nice shape but is getting some matting on the playfield.

Hello again, I have been focused on working on my game room remodel, about complete so back to fixing my DESW. I am having an issue that I cannot figure out. Switches are randomly going off with no imput. So, while the skill shot is running, the switch activation will cause the skill shot to activate, but the ball sits in the trough. Also, while playing the game, the same switches randomly activate including the door slam which kills the current game! I have noted the upper right x-wing, right bumper, door slam. I have checked the contacts and they are good, no action if bumping the box. I have checked the diagnostics and no open switches. I have sent my cpu in for repairs and have been told 100% checked. So... any idea what could be causing this? I am not even sure where to look. It seems like it would be an internal CPU type of issue??? Thanks for any help.

Ok, I will check out those suggestions and thank you!
Btw, any comments on that full mylar playfield protector? Does it hold up, where do you get it? My game is in great condition but the playfield is matted in finish (losing its shine) so thought it might be a good addition.

Thank you Koops!

I checked the switch contacts and did find the #3 xwing target was touching. Fixed that but still getting the phantom switch activation. Sometimes the right slingshot, ramp, target.

Where is the hex screw that Vector mentioned? I cannot locate any. I checked the ground connections on the boards and all are good.

I will have to do some research on testing diodes, I guess that could send a phantom connection, however it seems strange that it would do it when the game is just sitting still without any switch input.

I took a quick diagnostic video and wondering if you guys could take a quick look. I really appreciate all your help!!!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ilyk5moyx28whk/2017-01-13%2008.02.45.mov?dl=0

There is supposed to be 2 brackets underside playfield. Most are broke off, not the greatest design. Marco has replacements with extra mount screws. Just installed on mine. You will see tear out holes on each side of the center light board that ights "star wars".
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/535-0005-00

Nice!!! Do you know where the speaker lights are connected to trigger color changing?

Mine looked exactly like that, had friend weld... mistake broke first game. I can pm you the name of a pinsider who fixed mine correctly and permenently. Do it before the side snaps.

My desw is really looking good now from a pretty major referb. Now the cabinet is the only thing that is bothering me. I am thinking of repainting it. Considering the black theme. Whats everyone think? Keep the classic blue or black? That one that Hasi posted looks really nice, especially with the chrome metal!

I thought there was a poll on something or other. Looks like blue by one vote. There is a lot to be said about the classic, but black sure looks cool. Wasnt there something about a 30 year anniversary edition or something in black? Someones marketing ploy?

Marco has the lower playfield holders w 3 legs, but i could not find the top playfeild ones (r2d2 and DS), so used the 2 leg and put the diode in line w/ shrink tube. Mine were rusted up and replaced all of them.

Agreed. There are only 2 sound files when i got mine. I must be using julian then because it has the phantom menice and really annoying. Anyone else have a good file? I dont have the time for another project!

I believe it goes below r2 and above the double front light. At least thats where its on mine. I beleive there is a ball catch spot there and the wire is a solution. I will photo later

I have a couple coils/action that seem weak. Ball shoot and r2d2 dance. I replaced coil sleeves but not much help. I was going to order new coils and thinking maybe an "upgraded" coil w/ additional windings might be good? Spec is 23-800 coil was thinking 23-840 would be stronger? The ohm rating is 4.2 on the 23-800 and 4 ohm on 23-840. Thoughts?

Matches factory paint nearly perfect:
http://www.pinballuniverse.com/PinballPaints.htm

Did you figure out the smaller ones? They are 1st layer plastics.

The grounds go to the metal frame on the dmd. Mine had sporatic death star and found the solder cracked on the relay to board, resoldered and perfect.

So thats what the cardboard shroud looks like... never seen one in tact. Nice to see how Data East went all out back in the day!

Looks like a nice one!

ryandimx Pinsound was supposed to have a shaker motor option for their soundboards. Not sure if they ever finished it, have not checked in a while but might be a future option.

I have a new Pinball Wizard rubber kit left over for DESW. Anyone interested please send me a PM. TIA

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Haha, I am watching it because I want to see if it really sells. If it does, mine is worth $20k!

You can buy rivets and a knurling tool, its pretty easy to do.

Yah mine does that too. I was going to put a bumper around the shaft to kick the ball over, just havent gotten to it.

I got my targets from marco. They are fair priced and quick ship.

I used a taller hex spacer, led light and a black allen cap screw. I also have used urathane washers in many areas to keep from overtightening or loosening up over time.

Could someone do me a favor and measure you legs? Something is just weird that i have yet to figure out. The table is too flat. I have the front levelers up (shorter) and rear all the way down. Game is still too flat according to the built in level. The game sits flatter than everyother game i have, even older williams T2. Legs appear stock, with the rough powdercoat finish. Front an back legs measure 28". Front lockdown bar measures 37", all other games are 36".

Thanks for the info. I am sure mine are stock, glad (sort of) I am not the only one that noticed this. Why put a tilt guage on the game but not able to get that tilt with stock legs? Strange.

I owned a DESW years ago and when I bought another one figured it was a keeper. Well, I guess never say never in pinball! I decided to put it up for sale. It is excellent condition and a full topside rebuild. Really it is about perfect other than the cabinet which was in pretty good shape, but I would have redone the cabinet also if I had known the extent of the other items- it has a couple minor scratches on the sides but front and head are excellent. If anyone has any interest please let me know. I am not in a big rush and have lots of photos and video. I was going to ask $6k. I know that is way over the typical going price but with the extras came up with:
Game $3500
Pinsound & FF $500
Color DMD $400
Custom LED & OCD $300
Misc new parts, new plastic, cpu, speakerlights, playfield protector, new shifter, etc, etc $800
Time & effort $500

I see some ridiculous prices +6k for basic DESW. Of course if I list it will need to figure in the commission.

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