Star Wars
Data East, 1992Refurbing my Data East Star Wars and found that the woofer was not a woofer but a crappy mid-range speaker. I recently upgraded my Woofer on my TZ following this guide:
http://www.dziedzic.us/wpc_speaker_replacement.html
But this guide doesnt apply to the Data East. It seems that each speaker has its own amplifier. So my questions:
1. Do I need a crossover on the woofer?
2. Do i need an LPAD, if so how should i hook it up?
DE speakers are 4ohm if I’m not mistaken.
The boards put out good sound to the backbox speakers generally, so I wouldn’t worry about replacing them.
The L-PAD is a good idea, because you can’t dial in each speaker individually otherwise. Crossover also a very good idea but not required
FWIW the PinballPro/FF/PinSound solutions aren’t that expensive and are direct replacements. PinSound board takes the game to another whole level
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:DE speakers are 4ohm if I’m not mistaken.
The boards put out good sound to the backbox speakers generally, so I wouldn’t worry about replacing them.
The L-PAD is a good idea, because you can’t dial in each speaker individually otherwise. Crossover also a very good idea but not required
FWIW the PinballPro/FF/PinSound solutions aren’t that expensive and are direct replacements. PinSound board takes the game to another whole level
according to this post it is an 8 ohm woofer and they used an 8 ohm crossover.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/data-east-star-wars-clubmembers-fans-welcome/page/18#post-2347878
would i need two LPADs one for the mid range and the tweeter? If i can use 2 how would i wire them?
Quoted from Billy16:For whatever it is worth I upgraded my TFTC speakers to FF. There was a very minor sound improvement unlike on most other pins I've used FF's on. The cab speaker might be worth improving, but I'm with Rd1978--the standard backbox speakers are evidently pretty good.
yes i am not going to mess with the backbox speakers just the woofer. But if i need to add an LPAD to make the bass kick, not sure how to do it via the wiring?
Try posting here and see if you get an answer:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/data-east-pinball-club/page/24#post-4842874
Quoted from jgadzia:can anyone help?
I put one of these in my DESW.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072YJZWMM/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title
Wired it directly in, no LPAD. Stock soundcard (for now, I have a pinsound in another machine and love it).
All the LPAD can do is turn down the woofer anyway, and I don't think you'll need that.
Quoted from cabuford:I put one of these in my DESW. Wired it directly in, no LPAD. Stock soundcard (for now, I have a pinsound in another machine and love it).
All the LPAD can do is turn down the woofer anyway, and I don't think you'll need that.
FWIW the LPad turns down the backbox on at least the PinballPro installation, which is valuable - but not required obviously
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:FWIW the LPad turns down the backbox on at least the PinballPro installation, which is valuable - but not required obviously
Ah, my bad. I thought he meant it was going to attach to the woofer.
I replaced all the speakers in both my Data East machines with $35 worth of speakers per machine from amazon. One has a pinsound card and it sounds much better, but then again I incorporated Scott Danesi's TNA soundtrack into Lethal Weapon 3 
Quoted from cabuford:Ah, my bad. I thought he meant it was going to attach to the woofer.
I replaced all the speakers in both my Data East machines with $35 worth of speakers per machine from amazon. One has a pinsound card and it sounds much better, but then again I incorporated Scott Danesi's TNA soundtrack into Lethal Weapon 3
Awesome!
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