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Data East Power Supply Issue

By thepita007

9 years ago


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#1 9 years ago

Hello,

I have a secret service pinball machine and I am getting a strange reading on the power supply for the alphanumeric display.

The voltages I see for the display are the following:

+102.8 vdc
- 122.9 vdc
+ 4.94 vdc

The negative voltage for the display seems really high. I have verified the components in the circuit for the negative voltage and they all test normal.

Anyone ever had this issue?

#3 9 years ago

TR4 has a mds60 installed instead of a MJE350.

the mds60 appears to be factory installed

#4 9 years ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

Are those readings with the display attached or not?
If so, then that -122 is high.
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it reads 122 with and without the display attached

#5 9 years ago

TR4 is the transistor in question.

looks factory installed which is strange they would install a mds60 instead of MJE350

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#6 9 years ago

desoldered the mds60 and ordered parts from GPE.

will update what changes this makes.

still no idea why the mds60 was there

#8 9 years ago
Quoted from MarAlb:

Your power supply origins from a Laser War (001)..... I have seen these power supplies more often with an MDS transistor installed. Beware of the ECB pinning of the MJE transistor iso the EBC of the MDS transistor. Check the 100V zenerdiodes too (measure the voltage over the zeners!)....somebody has been working there before. You can replace them by 91V zenerdiodes to make your displays last longer.
/\/\arco

tested everything else and its all normal. the zener diodes are 4763a so someone swapped them already.

the only thing which doesn't test correctly is the mds60. so hopefully when I put the MJE in the voltages drops to the correct level.

thanks,

#10 9 years ago
Quoted from minnesota13:

Measure as suggested - if you have 91V zeners, then you should read 91V across the diode.

I am seeing 99.8v and -105.6v on the zener diodes

#14 9 years ago
Quoted from G-P-E:

If you want originals --> MDS60 = CEN-U60.
Since Central Semi is no longer talking to me -- you can try to get them from Mouser.

I actually just ordered a MJE15035 from your site which is what the schematic shows. I know I will have to bend the pins but is there any downside to using this part instead?

1 week later
#16 9 years ago

installed the MJE15035, had to bend the legs as different pinout.

the voltages now read at the display!

99.8vdc and
-105.6v

I will be replacing all of the resistors soon so that should drop both down to 90vdc

thanks all!

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