Hoping to find someone that has experienced choppy sound on a Data East pinball with a Pinsound card installed and has purchased their Data East power booster cables. Have some sound issues with my GnR right now.

Have tested the Pinsound card in another game and it works fine. Let me know if anyone has purchased this item and the results. Thanks for the help.

Thanks for the advice on the Data East Power Booster cable. Have ordered one from Pinsound. Now to figure out my flipper issue on my GnR. Not the flipper board as I tried it on a friend's game and no issues and all of the fuses check out ok. Both are machine gunning. Thanks.

Flippers are stuttering, started with right, then left (right was then working fine) and now both. Thanks for the help.

Have just puchased a Tommy with a start up problem. I have no idea where to start with this issue.

Turn the game on and lights turn on, on the playfield and DMD has a scrambled image and there is a hissing sound. Game will not start up.

I disconnected the power to the DMD and when I turn it on, get the initial sound on start up (just a single sound for a second or two) and no hissing sound anymore. But game will not turn on.

I have checked the fuses in the head and they are all good. Previous owner put in a new PinX power board but that did not solve the problem.

Any suggestions on things to check? I do have a GnR Data East as well if that helps for testing parts. I have a tech coming over and wanted to give him some ideas on things to check for. The DMD was tested in another game and apparently it worked fine.

Thanks for the help!

Thanks. Hoping someone has had a similar issue before. Not sure where to start.

I noticed tonight that CN1 had damage to pins 1-12 and also the connector has burn marks. So maybe something is causing these pins to burn out. Does anyone know what these pins control and any likely causes to look at? Thanks for your help. Jim

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I think the connector was replaced when the new power board was put in and it is again burnt at pins 10-12. Is there an underlying problem that is causing the pins to burn in the first place? Thanks for the help. Jim

Thanks for the details. Do you recall what part of the game would not function when CN1 was damaged? Did it impact the DMD working or the ball ejection?

Sometimes these problems just take a little common sense to figure out. I removed CN2 (as I read in another post this would potentially help) and the playfield and translite lights stayed on. Then it dawned on me with the replacement of the power supply board, maybe the game was reaet to the factory defaults. So I played with the coin slot and heard what appeared to be a credit added. Game would then start but no ball would eject.

Does anyone know how to add a credit manually to the game? I cannot set it to freeplay as DMD is still not working. Thanks for the help.

So I need to replace all the bulbs in the playfield or it will keep shorting? Thanks again. Jim

That is really fried! Sounds like all LEDs on the game is the best way to go. Not sure it will solve the DMD issue. Thanks for the help.

So an update on DMD power issues and game not working. The tech replaced pins 10-12 in CN1 and I bypassed the DMD issue a little. I had bought a LED colordmd for the game and apparently this dmd draws less power than the original. So after installing the color dmd, it appears fine. There was one section of the powerboard that was not drawing enough power when tested. If anyone wants specifics, I can ask the tech for more details.

The game did restart one time during gameplay but that was before replacing the three pins in CN1.

Thanks for all the help getting the game up and running! Jim

Any recommended flipper button covers for Data East games? Thinking the clear ones would be best. Thanks.

This was an issue with the DMD not working properly (scrambled lines on the display) and not getting enough power. Changed the power board to an Xpin power board and there appeared to be burned pins 10/11/12 at CN1 on the power board.

Here is what my tech said:

The only issue we found was the -98v was low right off the power supply at -89v. All the VAC from the transformer tested good as does the voltage coming into CN1.

Thanks for the help. Now I am having a ball eject issue. Keep getting an error message that there are Too Many Balls. The ball ejection coil keeps firing off after a ball enters the shooter lane. Also it fires off before you start a new game. The plastic below the coil looks damaged, maybe from resting the playfield on the top of the cabinet.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Here is a short video that shows the issue. When I turn on the game, ball eject coil will shot about five times, then mechanism in shooter lane that shoots the ball goes off, which stops the coil from triggering. When I start the game, ball will eject properly and then ejection coil starts to shot again.

As mentioned, there is some damage to the bottom of the coil but the resister seems to be intact. Thanks for the help!

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Thanks for the correction. I will see if I can get the switch test to work. I know the trough clean function doesn't work. Balls remain in the trough.

The coil fires in the trough clear mode but no balls come out.

I ran the test but not sure how to interpret the results. Didn't indicate any errors, that I could see. How would it indicate if there was a problem? Thanks.

I bought this metal saw horse at Home Depot. Hold 1,000 pounds. Just slide it under the front of the game to hold up the front legs. I put some felt pads on the top.

https://www.homedepot.ca/product/hdx-1-compartment-folding-steel-sawhorse/1001018661

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I was able to figure out my ball eject issue, for those that may come across the same issue down the road. When I started the game, the ball eject coil would fire off five times and also after the ball would launch. Also, game would stall with multi ball as game was not registering that ball was over. Also got error message 'Too many balls' and switch test indicated there were 7 balls.

The issue was that metal arm in the photo below. It had somehow got stuck behind the metal plate in front of it so it was not properly registering that a ball was ready to be ejected. Once I pushed it past the metal plate, closer to the balls, the game functioned perfectly.

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Anyone with a Tommy, I just finished a Who Pinsound orchestration for Tommy. The link is below.

Added some original Who songs to JULIEN42's Tommy orchestration. Songs included:

- Who Are You, The Seeker, My Generation, Heaven and Hell, Won't Get Fooled Again, Magic Bus, Behind Blue Eyes, Baby O'Riley, Love Reign Over Me, You Better You Bet, Smash the Mirror, Were Not Going to Take It.

http://pinsound-community.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/281-the-who-greatest_pinballjah/

Thanks for this info. You recommend this board in home use games? I have had power issues in my Tommy previously. I assume he sells them? Thanks for the help.

Is there a Stern general thread similar to this? Thanks.

Thanks, guess I can start one.

Need to update it. AC/DC pro and Elvis. Pretty well have 2 DE, 2 Ballys, 2 Williams and 2 Stern. Thanks.

I use a double spotlight on my Tommy. Think it came from Comet.

How hard was the install? Thanks

Having issues with my right flipper on GnR. Moves very slow or does not work. Sometimes it starts in the upright position with a new ball.

I swapped out the flipper board from Tommy and exact same issue. I think it may be one of the connectors to the flipper board. Any other suggestions on things to check? Thanks for your help.

Thanks for the link. Anyone had an issue with the ball kicker arm? The only issue I have with my Tommy, ball has to kick up several times before making it. Thanks.

Guy in Toronto selling a larger Data East DMD. On Kijiji if anyone is looking for one. $250Cdn asking.

Had this issue fixed but it seemed to have returned again last night. Right flipper on GnR has very little power. It is very weak and seems to go in slow motion. Any ideas on things to check in terms of power? Thank you.

Anyone know where I can get this board, EUROPEAN "PIN-LED DATA EAST REPLACEMENT 40001" flipper board? Even used would be great. Thanks for the help!

Thanks for the link. Wonder if the 40001 makes a difference?

Would a Tommy power board work directly in a GnR? Want to test a power issue with the flippers and have an old Tommy power board. Just wondering if 100% compatible. Thanks.

Thanks for the confirmation. Always nervous to swap out boards between games. Will double check the manuals for sure. Thank you.

Has anyone ever found an option to the standard volume control that comes with the Data East games (usually a long knob inside the coin box area)? This is what I have on my Tommy and GnR. Find it to be terrible for volume control and usually not working properly. Thanks for the help!