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Dunno if anyone’s into this kinda thing, but I picked up 2 of Titan_Pinball ‘s lockdown bar stickers and recommend them as a simple finishing item for a game - they look great!
A82861E3-FBC5-4BDF-80BA-4285409A0D2B (resized).jpegFor Batman --- the game flyer shows yellow flipper bats, but going to Marcos they seem to list white ones... which I'm noticing a mix of color choices when I google playfield pics....
Outta curiosity - does anyone know what the game originally shipped with? the white or the yellow?
Apologies for all the recent Batman posts, but I just acquired the game yesterday and am a tad excited.
I'm trying to find Flipper Assembly coil information but the manual just says 'refer to coil chart for game specific coils' -- whereas my DE JP had the coil part number in the flipper assembly section of the manual.
On this page (http://techniek.flipperwinkel.nl/desega/index3.htm#rebuild) I found it listed as #090-5020-30 for the left and right flipper.
In my game currently I've got a #090-5020-30 on the left (looks new) and a #090-5020-20 on the right... is this correct? should they be mixed up like this? will it harm the game to play with two different coils?
Which coil # should be in the game?
Thanks in advance all.
Quoted from vec-tor:I started with the service bulletins....
Then I started with the manuals...
Then I started to put the flipper assemblies in numerical order...
e.g.
500-5031-51 R. Extra diode, End-of-Stroke switch 090-5020-02 flipper coil 22-900
500-5031-52 L. Extra diode, End-of-Stroke switch 090-5020-02 flipper coil 22-900
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500-5177-01 R. solid state, no End-of-Stroke switch 090-5020-20 flipper coil 22-900
500-5177-02 L. solid state, no End-of-Stroke switch 090-5020-20 flipper coil 22-900
Thanks so much @vec-tor, and forgive my novice-ness but I'm confused with the differences in numbers between the 2 posts you made and am hoping to learn from you as I'm new to all this.
So the 500-5177-01 and 02 are the part numbers for the full right and left flipper assemblies - but when I look them up on Marcos both show the 090-5020-30 coil.
In your first post you mentioned 090-5030-00 as the coils - but in the second post you mentioned 090-5020-02 and 090-5020-20 -- then the numbers differ between 23-1100 and 22-900 (with your warning to stay away from 23-900).
Putting those into Marcos or PinballLife return a variety of coils - some with diodes and some without.
I tried looking for the service bulletins and came up here -- http://arcarc.xmission.com/Pinball/Stern%20Service%20Bulletins/sb/sb62.pdf -- Which asks for 090-5020-30 (23-900).
Am I missing a service bulletin where this one changed? does the coil number list somewhere in the batman manual that I'm missing?
Is it an issue that my game has the 5020-20 and 5020-30 mixed?
Quoted from vec-tor:O.K. then to continue...
500-5177-01 R. solid state, no End-of-Stroke switch 090-5020-20 flipper coil 22-900
500-5177-02 L. solid state, no End-of-Stroke switch 090-5020-20 flipper coil 22-900
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500-5177-31 R. solid state, no End-of-Stroke switch 090-5020-30 flipper coil 23-900
500-5177-32 L. solid state, no End-of-Stroke switch 090-5020-30 flipper coil 23-900
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Does this help.
Nope.
Quoted from vec-tor:Data East Batman flippers ref.
500-5177-71 R. solid state, no End-of-Stroke switch 090-5030-00 flipper coil 23-1100
500-5177-72 L. solid state, no End-of-Stroke switch 090-5030-00 flipper coil 23-1100
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Note: "ultimate" flipper base. from prior games. e.g. Checkpoint.
Note: colsond3 sold a believed HUO Batman... it is very clean.
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colsond3 HUO Batman
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I hope this clarifies the Batman flipper coils.
Operators install what ever coils are available to keep their games running...
I do not know if the 23-900 coils where in abundance, so these coils where installed in
Batman and other Data East games.
For instance, this Batman has the Ultimate 23-900 coils installed.
Note: this playfield is also a Playfield Swap.
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This is amazing vec-tor - thank you so much.
So in my machine both flippers have two different coils on them (090-5020-30 and 090-5020-20) - I shall go ahead and replace them with the 090-5030-00 as you suggested above.
When I did a search on them through PinballLife the 090-5030-00 now returns an 090-5030-OT coil - forgive my stupidity here but I just wanted to triple check that this one is an ok substitute (the listing states its a replacement for the 00).
If you've got an alternate suggestion though, I'm happy to hear to it and thank you for your help.
Quoted from vec-tor:The part #090-5030-OT coil is the same thing...
[ -0T ] is for diode placement... Top or Bottom of coil bobbin.
Excellent thank you sir - I appreciate the insight.
Hey All - I have to change the backglass lift trim on my DE Batman.
Unless it's overkill... I had wondered what people do with the new trim -- if I should add a strip of electrical tape or anything on the bottom the glass or the inside of the new trim where it'll be touching the backglass to help with friction or rubbing against the artwork?
Thanks,
Also -- does anyone make a replacement sticker for the Museum on a DE Batman? or have any recommendations on where to look? I don't need a whole set from Marcos.
Thank you! I was hoping to not have to purchase the complete sticker set but it's looking like I will have to.
Outta curiosity — is there a preference of rubber for the front of the bat cave posts that better protects the cave from hits?
Of the two playfields I have, they both have different rubbers - then looking through the galleries it seems that everyone has a different style.
1D949F63-8C08-4B31-A894-F0A41AD0715B (resized).jpegDB8C70FA-9642-4F16-B29A-4DDFBD3F9720 (resized).jpegHappy long weekend everyone (who's got one) - curious about the following pics from homerdalors31 (I tried messaging him directly but his inside mail wasn't taking messages).
I noticed on the machine page pics section that the user has raise the batcave plastic off the playfield a bit, and was wondering if anyone else has done this and if it's a successful mod to the game?
I'm assuming it's to keep it from taking ball hits and/or raising it to see the cave art underneath.
Screen Shot 2020-09-06 at 8.30.30 AM (resized).pngd2bc4dee0329cf7c16e1f512a812f9995fee5db6 (resized).jpegquestion regarding backbox bolts -- did the DE machines original ship with these? reading the manuals for both my games, it just mentions the Allen wrench backbox latch and not proper bolts.
Do you guys tend to prefer adding backbox bolts? 2 per backbox?
Would something like the Williams Bally 2'' wing bolt work ok - or rather a 3/8's carriage bolt with nut and washer be preferable?
Hi All -- for those with a DE Batman -- Does anyone know for sure what the last ROM revisions made for the game were? there seems to be some confusion with the display rom in particular -- is it A1.02 or A1.06?
I've got a CPU Rom of A1.06 and display or A1.02.
Thanks all.
If anyone's on the fence with the new H-LED ColorDMD displays for the 128x16 games - arrived and installed this morning, quite simple with not having to move over the driver board (like on my JP display - which was easy as well, but this one was simply the display rom).
I'd forgotten how impressed I was the first time you see a game start up with Color!
Another great product from ColorDMD.
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