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Dammit Stern, Why Why Why.

By pinster68

7 years ago


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#1 7 years ago
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BKC

pinster68

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My year-old mint Iron Man (IMVE) now isn't so minty thanks to a bad design choice from Stern. It's minor, but REALLY annoying.

I thought Stern was ever so thoughtful in designing rubber stoppers on the head so when you lower it the head won't damage the rails. But ... as I learn after moving my IMVE to the office for a company party that their design choice was poorly executed. The rubber stoppers don't align the the rails. What were they thinking!?

So be warned about trusting those rubber stoppers...

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#2 7 years ago
 
SMB

Concretehardt

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Oof!

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#3 7 years ago
 
MVP

Grizlyrig

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Um that is some misalignment there,crap

Mike

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#4 7 years ago
 
QRK

Deez

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Dang - did you drop the head or use a super tight strap? I've never seen damage that bad.

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#5 7 years ago
 
MOF

mof

Mof Pinball

US San Francisco, CA

11y 149K 13,302 25 94

Hopefully you'll help prevent a few others from enduring the same fate.
-mof

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#6 7 years ago
 
AEK

Pinball-DOOD

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US Louisville, KY

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Sorry to hear that happened!

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#7 7 years ago
 
CWG

Chrizg

dsmpinball

US Des Moines, IA

12y 93,550 2,084 5

This is more of an issue with the head hinges being thin metal and they are super flexible so when you put the head down it can easily be off to one side and needs re-centered. I've never had one move once I made sure it was center on the pads and tightened down with a strap.

I have a zillion sets of new take off side rails if you want some. Can't help with the head damage tho..

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#9 7 years ago
 
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Cserold

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US Dallas, TX

7y 80,550 1,487 17 6

Mine definitely don't align on my GB Prem.

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#10 7 years ago
 
KID

blowback1976

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10y 99,050 1,338 7 40 1

Looks like a new ongoing issue, since they added the pads:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/warning-be-careful-transporting-new-stern-pins

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#11 7 years ago
 
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jgentry

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10y 137K 5,229

Never move a game without foam, cardboard, or a moving blanket in between the head and the side rails. I'm sorry your game got damaged, but we can't blame stern for every bad choice we make.

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#12 7 years ago
 
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dragdaily12

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11y 70,050 403 39 1

Im always worried about this and use moving blankets between the head and rails. Sorry to hear about this but thanks for sharing and making other pinsiders aware of this as a potential issue.

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#13 7 years ago
 
YZF

yzfguy

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Quoted from jgentry:

Never move a game without foam, cardboard, or a moving blanket in between the head and the side rails. I'm sorry your game got damaged, but we can't blame stern for every bad choice we make.

Pool noodles rule.

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#14 7 years ago
 
FJB

Trekkie1978

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Whenever I lift my play field all the way up, I put a towel on top of the head.

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#15 7 years ago
 
LEW

Pinballlew

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Quoted from Trekkie1978:

Whenever I lift my play field all the way up, I put a towel on top of the head.

This is how I pictured you when reading this.

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#16 7 years ago
 
KHS

ZenTron

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US Concord, NC

10y 104K 2,292 3

Id assume if one lowers the head and makes sure the pads are lined-up the weight of the head will keep the pads in place. As a precaution most people like myself use cardboard, beach towel, moving blanket etc.

Did you make sure pad was aligned when you lowered head?

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#17 7 years ago
 
DUG

ninjadoug

PGH Pinball

US Pittsburgh, PA

16y 103K 1,219 137 26

Quoted from yzfguy:

Pool noodles rule.

+1 on the pool noodles.

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#18 7 years ago
 
CWB

Charliew65

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11y 96,300 1,179 1

Well now you know where to move the rubber foot to!

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#19 7 years ago
 
FJB

Trekkie1978

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Quoted from Pinballlew:

This is how I pictured you when reading this.

That is really funny!!!

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#20 7 years ago
 
ZZZ

inhomearcades

Midwest Gaming

11y 71,800 2,849 27

happened on my GOT LE. I wasn't happy either. Sucks that they would make that piece of rubber so small.

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#21 7 years ago
 
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jorge5240

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US Dublin, CA

13y 89,050 2,320 16

I have pinball armor to move mygames. It is expensive and may be over kill for some but it has saved me more than once when moving a game.

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#22 7 years ago
 
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TheFamilyArcade

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Sorry to hear that Brian.

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#23 7 years ago
 
MJH

TimeBandit

redshiftLED.com.au

AU Sydney, Oz

10y 159K 5,511 3 65

Everybody should stock up on cardboard corners. Use them on every edge when shipping or moving pins. Very useful for sending fragile stuff like toppers as well. Very cheap.

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#24 7 years ago
 
POP

Nevus

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Quoted from TimeBandit:

Everybody should stock up on cardboard corners. Use them on every edge when shipping or moving pins. Very useful for sending fragile stuff like toppers as well. Very cheap.

I purchased a case of those on Amazon just for my pins.

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#25 7 years ago
 
GAC

Rarehero

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US Los Angeles, CA

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Those rubber stoppers are for when you lift the playfield. Not for lowering the head onto the rails.

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#26 7 years ago
 
FJB

Trekkie1978

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US Shrewsbury, NJ

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Quoted from jorge5240:

I have pinball armor to move mygames. It is expensive and may be over kill for some but it has saved me more than once when moving a game.

I should be moving in 2017. I bought the pinball armor a few years ago. When I finally make the move, I will be doing 1 pin at a time. I don't care if it takes me all day. I want to keep the machines perfect.

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#27 7 years ago
 
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CrazyLevi

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US New York, NY

10y 148K 33,539

Quoted from Rarehero:

Those rubber stoppers are for when you lift the playfield. Not for lowering the head onto the rails.

Oops

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#28 7 years ago
 
CWG

Chrizg

dsmpinball

US Des Moines, IA

12y 93,550 2,084 5

Quoted from Rarehero:

Those rubber stoppers are for when you lift the playfield. Not for lowering the head onto the rails.

Um, false? Not sure if that was supposed to be a joke or not.

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#29 7 years ago
 
AST

Astropin

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New Title Needed:

"Dammit Me, Why Why Why."

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#30 7 years ago
 
BTF

PinballManiac40

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Quoted from Rarehero:

Those rubber stoppers are for when you lift the playfield. Not for lowering the head onto the rails.

Quoted from Chrizg:

Um, false? Not sure if that was supposed to be a joke or not.

Sounds legit to me.

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#31 7 years ago
 
MJH

TimeBandit

redshiftLED.com.au

AU Sydney, Oz

10y 159K 5,511 3 65

Quoted from PinballManiac40:

Sounds legit to me.

They do line up with the rails, but aren't designed for transport/serious moving. For laying the head down and a light duty reposition or something like that. I will trust them if I'm just laying the head down to lower the centre of gravity if I'm using the dolly for a shuffle within the room, but not for moving up/down stairs or the like.

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#32 7 years ago
 
JRB

exflexer

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Rookie mistake. When that previously mint IMve was in a box it had foam packs wedged between the head and the rails. Just use some touch up paint and move on.

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#33 7 years ago
 
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The_Dude_Abides

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US Northern California, CA

14y 137K 9,468 151

I always put a flattened cardboard box between the backbox & cab then shrink wrap it down securely. Easy, cheap, and effective. Better safe than sorry.

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#34 7 years ago
 
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o-din

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11y 158K 58,796

I use cardboard too.

Pretty amazing somebody wouldn't notice those rubber bumpers weren't lined up when laying the head down.

I guess we all use different levels of carefulness when moving our machines.

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#35 7 years ago
 
MJH

TimeBandit

redshiftLED.com.au

AU Sydney, Oz

10y 159K 5,511 3 65

Quoted from Rarehero:

Those rubber stoppers are for when you lift the playfield. Not for lowering the head onto the rails.

This is not actually true, Rare. They do lie outside the width of the apron.

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#36 7 years ago
 
GAC

Rarehero

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US Los Angeles, CA

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Quoted from TimeBandit:

This is not actually true, Rare. They do lie outside the width of the apron.

Hmm. Well, they're fucking useless then lol

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#37 7 years ago
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BKC

pinster68

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Quoted from yzfguy:

Pool noodles rule.

I "always" use pool noodles. But having seen these rubber stoppers I though "Damn, Stern, nice going, you were really thinking here. No more worries". But then .... omfg.

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#38 7 years ago
 
BRG

IdahoRealtor

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US Eagle, ID

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Quoted from exflexer:

Rookie mistake. When that previously mint IMve was in a box it had foam packs wedged between the head and the rails. Just use some touch up paint and move on.

What he said. Not Stern's fault. Those pads are not for transportation. The head can and will shift when you turn you car at speed, or hit a bump in the road. Touch it up with a paint brush, or even a Sharpie, and it will almost disappear. No biggie.

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#39 7 years ago
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BKC

pinster68

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Quoted from IdahoRealtor:

What he said. Not Stern's fault. Those pads are not for transportation. The head can and will shift when you turn you car at speed, or hit a bump in the road. Touch it up with a paint brush, or even a Sharpie, and it will almost disappear. No biggie.</

What he said. Not Stern's fault. Those pads are not for transportation. The head can and will shift when you turn you car at speed, or hit a bump in the road. Touch it up with a paint brush, or even a Sharpie, and it will almost disappear. No biggie.

Enlighten us ... what are those pads for then?

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#40 7 years ago
 
JPM

jmountjoy111

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US Williamsburg, KY

10y 109K 3,431 84

I use those rubber foam square floor fatigue mats that you piece together to stick under exercise equipment. They work wonders

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#41 7 years ago
 
ZZZ

inhomearcades

Midwest Gaming

11y 71,800 2,849 27

Those bumpers line right up with the rails with the head down. The problem is the movement in the head, the back box hinges don't keep the head from moving side to side.

Quoted from Rarehero:Those rubber stoppers are for when you lift the playfield. Not for lowering the head onto the rails.

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#42 7 years ago
 
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Strummy

High End Mods

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10y 118K 2,873 4

That sucks. I use cardboard too. The seller of the last game that I bought wanted to make sure that no damage occured while transporting it in my pickup on a 5 hour ride. It sure did make offloading it myself a breeze.

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#43 7 years ago
 
BRG

IdahoRealtor

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Is it still unclear to you? Okay. Obviously, you can set the head down on them with no damage. But it's not a free pass to start transporting your pins around town with nothing else in between.

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#44 7 years ago
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BKC

pinster68

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Quoted from IdahoRealtor:

Is it still unclear to you? Okay. Obviously, you can set the head down on them with no damage. But it's not a free pass to start transporting your pins around town with nothing else in between.

I think you're missing the point. They rubber stoppers don't line up to the rails *at all*. Not talking about a little shifting here ... they do not line up, period.

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#45 7 years ago
 
AST

Astropin

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Quoted from pinster68:

I think you're missing the point. They rubber stoppers don't line up to the rails *at all*. Not talking about a little shifting here ... they do not line up, period.

Yet you transported it that way anyway.

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#46 7 years ago
 
ADH

Wakky

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9y 39,300 498

OP
Quoted from pinster68:

I think you're missing the point. They rubber stoppers don't line up to the rails *at all*. Not talking about a little shifting here ... they do not line up, period.

Awe lets lose sleep over it..... nothing to see here ...
The original poster should have shoved a towel under the head box.. Dont blame Stern you should think about how you move your game

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#47 7 years ago
 
BDS

pinball_erie

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US Erie, PA

12y 67,900 1,297 7 9

Quoted from TimeBandit:

Everybody should stock up on cardboard corners. Use them on every edge when shipping or moving pins. Very useful for sending fragile stuff like toppers as well. Very cheap.

+1 on this suggestion. The equipment we get in at my business always comes with these, and I have amassed a large tally of these for pin movement.

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#48 7 years ago
 
RLH

Lovef2k

WalltoWallPinball

US Carneys Point Township, NJ

11y 89,300 3,853 6

How's this?

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#49 7 years ago
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BKC

pinster68

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Quoted from Astropin:

Yet you transported it that way anyway.

Yes, clearly I trusted that the intent of the stoppers was to protect the head.

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#50 7 years ago
 
NJM

NeilMcRae

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Cardboard between head and glass- first thing I learn on pinball ownership!

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