Cyclopes
Game Plan, 1985Small update: So I was fiddling around with the MPU and I pressed the red test button on the MPU after I got flash #1. When I did this, I got either 5 or 6 flashes. When this happened, I had all the connectors but J1 unplugged as not to burn anything up, so I couldn't tell if it booted all the way. I then plugged everything in with the machine off. Now, when I press the red test button nothing happens. Progress is being made little by little.
IT LIVESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I reseated U20 and BAM 6 flashes and full boot up. Now, once it fully boots I get the relay click and the bell. The displays seem to be doing the right thing, switching from 9999992 to 0. I get no GI, but that's cause I have that connector unplugged. I can coin up and I get the noise and the credits show up on the display but I cannot start a game. The only computer controlled light that I get is the "shoot again" eyeball in the middle of the playfield. I cycled through the settings with the top button on the coin door. I did not however press the lower one. Thanks to everyone who helped out with this big learning experience. Especially viperrwk, could not have come close to getting this beast working without your expertise. Thanks so much
Plugged in what I thought was the GI connector and now I get all solenoids, and insert lights. Still cant start a game hmmmmmmmm. Checked the obvious, outhole switches and start button switch. All seemed well. Got er into test mode and all solenoids seemed to be working. Super Excited!!!!!!!!
Quoted from Ronnie1114:Still cant start a game hmmmmmmmm
Have balls in it? I don't know this manu but my Black Knight and Black Hole won't start a game if it can't find the ball.
Quoted from Curbfeeler:Have balls in it? I don't know this manu but my Black Knight and Black Hole won't start a game if it can't find the ball.
Yes it does. My fireball 2 wont boot without the balls.
Big update: All is woking and the game is playing great! The GI is kinda flakey and sometimes doesnt turn on every once and a while. The only things that dont work are the flashers. Game plays great. Stole some rubbers from my fireball 2 plays and looks great!
Quoted from spfxted:LOVE THIS GAME!!
Its very unique, Game Plans best playing. One can only think what might have happened if they didnt go under.
Alright, Time for an update. Sent the MPU back to Viperrwk and turns out a ram had gone bad after he had repaired the board the first time, crazy! Anywho, board is shipped back and I'm counting the minutes. Viperrwk is a great guy and does excellent work.
OK, board showed up, threw her in and Cyclopes came to life once again. However, now I get no solenoids. The fuse under playfield was blown but I replaced it with a 3A slow blow and the new one didn't blow. Connections on the solenoids are good, connections on the driver and mpu board are good. Any help is appreciated.
Quoted from noahpdavis:Connector FTW!
Yup, the solenoid problem was a connector that I had tucked behind a wire loom to get out of the way. I didn't see this and thus with no connector; no solenoids. The GI issue has been solved as well. Noah helped me identify the GI connector which as luck has it is a little toasty. Still not getting any flashers...
On the flasher issue, are they daisy chained? I ask this because one of the sockets is empty as the area around it is burnt everywhere.
Quoted from viperrwk:Which flashers are not working? If it's all of them then you have to suspect the feed wire which comes from the bottom bumper (according to the schematic).
I'm assuming the solenoids are all working now...
viperrwk
All solenoids are good. Yes, none of the flashers are working. By bottom bumper do you mean Pop Bumper? Thanks again for your massive amounts of help.
Yes bottom pop bumper - power is chained from there to the flashers. Wire comes from the banded side of the coil on the bumper. The two Fire flashers are controlled by Q5, the blue target flasher by Q4 and the yellow target flashers by Q7.
viperrwk
Looked at the coil no broken wires there, then looked at all the individual resistors and no broken wires there either.
Check for continuity from the pop bumper coil to the flash lamps. Install known good lamps and check for continuity across the sockets. Check for power at the sockets. Check the connector between the backbox and head.
viperrwk
Possibly. The schematic shows a resistor on each lamp so one resistor taking out all the lamps seems unlikely. But you do have cut wires there - you have to trace the wiring and see if it corresponds to the schematic.
viperrwk
Put a new wire on and didn't change anything. Tried to trace the wire but kept losing it. My meter doesn't have continuity.
You would be better off getting a meter with audible continuity test. You need to verify continuity from the banded side of the lower pop bumper coil to one side of each flash lamp. Each flash lamp should have the same color wire on one side of the socket but each should have a different color on the other side. Since one flash lamp locked on previously, it is possible that the power wire melted and broke the connection preventing all of them from getting power.
viperrwk
Best to first get a meter with continuity. That's an invaluable tool to have...like owning a pinball machine and not having a Philips screwdriver and 1/4" nut driver.
If you need me to look at anything or send pictures of my Cyclopes LMK.
I found that this game eats #89 flashlamps for breakfast. As much of an anti LED guy that I am (and all my friends can attest) I had to go with some superbright #89 LED flashers (warmwhite) in all 8 spots. I left the warming resistors in. They don't affect the LED flashers at all.
I do know there are two strings of flashers that are each controlled by a TIP transistor on the solenoid driver board. Go through the solenoid tests and make sure they work there first.
Quoted from gabegabegabe:Awesome find! any chance the seller had a second one?
That would be sick. Doubtful, but I will check for you.
Quoted from PACMAN:Wow! How rare is a NOS populated PF for that game?
No idea, but to fond both the game and PF in the same city is crazy. The pinball gods are shining upon me.
Quoted from PACMAN:That's amazing. How's the gameplay? What would you compare it to?
Game is fun as hell VERY unique layout. Genius rules, like crazy rules. I will give anyone $100 if they can max out the monster bonus. Even with the glass off, it takes a couple of minutes to do it. Hmmmmmmm.... what to compare it to. Not sure, haven't played enough different games.
Quoted from pin-pimp:You owe my brother for sniffing that out for you
Yeah, both you and Bryce jumped on the orig. CL listing, but the playfield was all me. I owe both of you for various things.
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:Awesome score!
Thanks! Stoked, if the scheduling lines up, Hopefully this will make it to both PAGG and the PNW show.
Quoted from vid1900:You should have that NOS playfield scanned before you booger it up!
And potentially cleared as well (though that would require stripping it).
viperrwk
Quoted from noahpdavis:Gonna be tough to scan a populated pf
I can tear down the top of it pretty easy.
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