That would look nice. Can't think of where to mount it without the pin in front of me. Let me know how it turns out. I'm gonna post some pics of my Cyclone when I get time to take some good pics, now that it's done...

try color changers

I cracked 7 mil set on 3 ball the other day. Not bad considering I've played only a couple dozen times so far. Love the game so far but those outlanes can be so dam tough no matter how there setup.

Many times it's a dirty opto. Also make sure the allen screw where the wheel attaches to the motor shaft is tight. Not too tight though, the plastic will crack.

Here is mine. Just recently completed the full shop job and LEDs. Did some trial and error on the left side with colors, so its not quite where I want it. Tried color matching with plastics but didnt like the green to red/orange then more green so tried just red and 1 orange up to the ball toss. May go all red through the ball toss and just green in the ferris wheel area. 2-7x did 2 each of green, red and blue and color matched the rest of the inserts. Did a red by left flipper and blue by the right flipper. May try red and blue under the slings to go with the red/blue posts theme. The mostly blue on the right side of the playfield to me looks good since almost everything is blue. Opinions? Cyclone-937.jpgWill most pictures soon

It's between the board and the steel plate behind the wheel. You'll need to remove the 4 screws that attaches the plate/wheel assembly to the head's door and pull the whole assembly out. It's almost impossible to see but it's there. If it's slipping, it'll cause problems. Just make sure it's snug and don't gorilla torque it, that rascal will crack!

Looks great. I really need to put LEDs in mine one of these days. It looks so dull by comparison.

If you do LEDs, don't buy a kit. If you decide to do them, I can give you some insight as to how exactly I did mine and what colors and brightness worked well if you would like. I WILL post most pictures soon.

If you do LEDs, get herg's LED OCD:

http://ledocd.com/

The Mystery Wheel lights won't look as good as incandescents without it.

viperrwk

Thanks. I don't imagine I'll get to it for some time, though. If you do produce documentation, I'd love to have it.

Sounds like you removed the screws to the back of the motor? I was referring to the ones attaching the whole assembly to the door pictured below. Sorry for the confusion. You can see the allen screw in the second pic.

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I'm tempted when I do another teardown to try and pull the mylar also. Like you said, just a bit afraid of what might ALSO come up. There are some threads on here detailing on "how to". The "freeze" method I hear works the best. Just havn't got the balls to try it yet.......yet

Removing mylar from a System 11 that isn't Diamondplate is asking for trouble. I wouldn't do it unless you were ready to restore paint (which on Cyclone would be a nightmare.)

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/shining-up-a-system-11-fire-playfield-after-mylar-removal

viperrwk

I agree with viperrwk, I wouldn't do it! I used the freeze spray method on my Cyclone; the mylar came off with very minor paint loss. Would have been an easy fix and would have looked great. I used Goo Gone with a plastic razor blade to remove the adhesive. All was working fine then the paint started smearing as I wiped the residue from the playfield. I had to pick up another playfield.

I'm going to pull mine one of these days too, the bubbling on the inserts is driving me crazy and sometimes alters the ball path. Now that I've read about the possibility of the paint smearing in addition to lifting, I'm hoping CPR is still making repros when I decide to go for it. If you do decide to try it, please keep us posted on the method you used and pics if possible.

Really having second thoughts now. I think mine is fine the way it is, would just look so much nicer w/o the mylar.

CPR still has silver and bronze grade playfields in stock. Planetary still has gold class playfields. If you think Cyclone is a keeper and you want a nice playfield I would buy it now even if you don't install it now as when its gone, it's usually gone forever.

viperrwk

Just what is the difference between the 3 grades anyways? Never looked very deep into a new playfield.....yet. But really thinking about it w/Cyclone.

A couple photos to help justify a new PF - makes a huge difference.

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Price.

viperrwk

That's tempting. My playfield is mylared and looks good, but these are so much better. I've never done a playfield swap, however. Any guess how many hours it would take someone (slow) to do it for the first time?

Depends upon how much cleaning/refreshing of parts you want to do.

With all the photos you will need to take along the way, matching things up, drilling holes, etc not to mention Cyclone is one of your more complicated games because of the multiple ramps/subways/etc, you're probably looking at two full weekends easy.

viperrwk

http://classicplayfields.com/standards.html

viperrwk

Oh, I was assuming that time with a rotisserie - I couldn't even imagine doing it in the machine without one. You'd drive yourself crazy!

viperrwk

It might well take me five years to get to it at the rate I am going. Still, I am imagining at this point the Cyclone is one of the pins that I will hold onto longest. It's just so different from anything else I now have. Also, it is easy to understand without being too simple. Consequently, it's a really good pin for guests, and I continue to enjoy it.

Very nice! Mine looks fine, but that really is a big improvement w/ a new playfield.

Hi guys, I'm planning a long term restore of my Cyclone. I have a CPR playfield and plastics and plan to buy the ramps that are now available. One thing mine could use is the blue skill shot plastic with the holes. Does anyone know if that has ever been reproduced. As far as I know, it hasn't, but I thought I'd ask the group.

Great pinball , it's a lot of fun.

The blue skill shot aka shuttle ramp has never been reproduced. It gets the least amount of abuse compared to all the other ramps. It comes up for sale on ebay from time to time and it has sold for much less than the other ramps used to (before the repros.) Since for most people it is in good shape there usually isn't much competition for it in the bidding department.

viperrwk

I've seen a few post surrounding playfield swap and the amount of time. I've done a full swap and then some on Cyclone. I would guess the swap part to be 30-40 hours, going slow. That assumes refinish of metals, tumbling, cleaning, and etc....

Cyclone is not that bad for a swap. It was my first. The biggest PIA was the ground braid for GI that is stapled to the play field. I recycled mine, what a mistake. Buy new ground braid. And you will need the correct stapler to staple the ground braid back. I'm sure it can go faster (swap in 30-40), but it was my first as well. I really enjoyed the swap.
It plays better then a new machine. The action between the pop bumpers is awesome. Really speeds up the game (clear coated play field).

I've got pictures I can later post. Let me know what areas you have of concern.

I've probably got almost 70-80 hours in mine....

Here is what i have put into mine:
- new cpr play field
- new cpr plastics
- new xpin power board
- new GPM GI Relay board
- New rotten dog led displays
- CPU board repaired
- New Glass
- Full rebuild on Flippers-Mechs, bats, etc.....
- New switches for slings
- new pop bumper body and caps
- all new stickers for targets
- repaint of coin door, legs, etc...
- bondo repair and partial repaint of cab
- Mantis protectors for ramps
- Repair and polish of ramps
- New ramp (Which i have to install)
- Cointaker LEDS
- Lighted flipper buttons and Dracula hole

BrianZ, that would be awesome if you could post pics.

I am with many others that are considering a pf swap. The new ramps have me wanting to go the extra mile and restore the machine.

Is your skill shot ramp in terrible shape? i have an extra and it's in OK shape - needs a cleaning and has some broken holes (see pic). I'll send it to you if it is an improvement over what you have.

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Speaking of the skill shot ramp, I am missing one of the wire gates on that ramp (the top one not that I think it matters). Does anyone know where I can get one? Thanks!

If you are missing the last one, you can't land the ball in 5K - is that the case?