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Cyclone Club...Members Only!

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#1151 3 years ago
Quoted from branlon8:

...at 0,9° per phase you‘ll have almost 400 phases per rotation so I guess you don‘t see the individual phases. What‘s the purpose of the A4988 ? - to control the current and thus the final speed? Where is the vibration damper?

400 steps is correct but even at these higher step counts, you would still see each step, especially with the circumference of the ferris wheel. That's where the A4988 driver comes in. A normal stepper driver just sends a hard step pulse to the coils which is why you hear that really loud "buzzing" in most stepper motors, There's also backlash and a few other contributors, too.

The driver I'm using has a more tapered rise and decay for the phases which makes it very quiet and the rise and decay is somewhat adjustable in that, the driver can even move the armature in 1/2 step, 1/4 step, and 1/8 step per signal pulse. Power wise, it's a little less efficient because it has to keep the coils energized while cycling through each phase but it makes for even higher "resolution" and smoother motion and in turn, less noise. Even with all this, you can still hear the motor when mounted to a rigid body so, the vibration damper (barely visible in my original post) is just two metal plates with vulcanized rubber connecting them. It isolates the motor from resonating to the mount point and does a phenomenal job of keeping it quiet. Here is a pic of what the damper looks like:
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#1152 3 years ago
Quoted from lrosent345:

Whitewater but not positive.

After doing a Google search for the number on the side, I think its for a whirlwind

#1153 3 years ago

Yes, you're right, Whirlwind.

#1154 3 years ago

It lives!!! "Hey you! With tha face!" Lol. I love this game, such a huge nostalgia factor for me. Believe it or not, the only issue upon power up was a defective battery holder which I fixed with an NVRAM, and a transistor that needs about 5 minutes to warm up before it will light some playfield inserts. But other than that, it works 100%. Thanks again to EVERYONE for answering my questions and sharing your breakdown pics. I couldn't have completed this project without the help.

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#1155 3 years ago

Looks awesome! Congrats on getting that done! Really makes me want to do a swap on mine.

#1156 3 years ago
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:

Sorry to keep asking questions, but this decal was included in the parts I was given and I cant find where it goes. I've searched for some time now. Is it even for cyclone? Maybe comet? It's the type that has the adhesive on the image, so you stick it under plastic. Any ideas anyone?

Left ramp on Whirlwind.

1 week later
#1157 3 years ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

Your apron doesn't say "lane change"? Mine does.

I had the wrong apron for years and didn't know it! My Cyclone was in a bit of a rough shape when I got it, and it was a re-import, but it still seems weird to me that an apron would get swapped out.

I found an apron that matches everybody else's pictures. While getting the new apron cleaned up, I noticed that the apron part number has the game number at the end. The apron that was installed in my game is a 31-1008-568, which is from game 568 (Earthshaker). The new one is 31-1008-549, from game 549 (Pinbot).

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#1158 3 years ago
Quoted from kyle5574:

I had the wrong apron for years and didn't know it! My Cyclone was in a bit of a rough shape when I got it, and it was a re-import, but it still seems weird to me that an apron would get swapped out.
I found an apron that matches everybody else's pictures. While getting the new apron cleaned up, I noticed that the apron part number has the game number at the end. The apron that was installed in my game is a 31-1008-568, which is from game 568 (Earthshaker). The new one is 31-1008-549, from game 549 (Pinbot).
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What's the difference? Just where it says "lane change"?

#1159 3 years ago
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:

What's the difference? Just where it says "lane change"?

That and the Earthshaker apron had holes next to the drain for metal guides that Cyclone doesn't have. But the holes weren't visible to the player. I just got it for the Lane Change text.

#1160 3 years ago

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/112377

Original used Cyclone pf for sale.

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#1161 2 years ago

@scribbles
Nice job on the Cyclone!
Where did you find the plastic ramp top with the “Ride the Cyclone three times for jackpot”?

#1162 2 years ago
Quoted from Hapidance:

Scribbles
Nice job on the Cyclone!
Where did you find the plastic ramp top with the “Ride the Cyclone three times for jackpot”?

I purchased the game and all the new parts as a package deal. Someone bought everything, started tearing it apart, and gave up. So, unfortunately I'm not sure where most of the pieces came from. The particular part you're asking about, however, I believe was an original from the machine. It isnt new, bit was in really nice shape.

#1163 2 years ago

Is the ride the cyclone actually attached to the ramp? Is it a plastic or just a decal?

#1164 2 years ago
Quoted from lrosent345:

Is the ride the cyclone actually attached to the ramp? Is it a plastic or just a decal?

Its screwed to the cyclone ramp (the lower ramp). If you're the owner of Starship Fantasy, your lower ramp was pre drilled to accommodate it. I do know the ramps are Starship Fantasy because they were still in their original shipping box. So, the piece in question is a clear molded plastic, with a sticker on it.

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#1165 2 years ago

I was trying to determine if I could reproduce that part within my licensing agreement. Sorry, I can't but thanks for the reply.

#1166 2 years ago
Quoted from lrosent345:

I was trying to determine if I could reproduce that part within my licensing agreement. Sorry, I can't but thanks for the reply.

Oh wow, that stinks. Is it because its bolted on and not a permanent part of the ramp?

#1167 2 years ago

Yes. You might want to rally Planetary Pinball to reproduce it.

#1168 2 years ago
Quoted from lrosent345:

Yes. You might want to rally Planetary Pinball to reproduce it.

Quoted from CoolCatPinball:

Its screwed to the cyclone ramp (the lower ramp). If you're the owner of Starship Fantasy, your lower ramp was pre drilled to accommodate it. I do know the ramps are Starship Fantasy because they were still in their original shipping box. So, the piece in question is a clear molded plastic, with a sticker on it.
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I ended up finding one on eBay.

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#1169 2 years ago

Does anyone have a German flag they're willing to sell me? Our machine was a German transport that eventually ended up back in the U.S. Oddly enough, it didn't come with a German flag sticker on the sheet of flags the owner gave us; there's a bunch of other countries but not Germany.

Being that my husband lived in Germany for 7 years as a child, and the machine coming from Germany, we thought it would be cool to add the German flag. If anyone is willing to part with their German flag I'd appreciate it.

Thanks!
-Kristi

#1170 2 years ago

@kgoble78
Still need tat German Flag?

#1171 2 years ago

Anyone have an issue with the ferris wheel shot, where the ball seems to get "rejected" and comes back down the ramp? I've checked the gate that suppose to prevent that, it seems to swing freely (in one direction). The "reject" only seems to happen about 1 in 15 shots, but I can't see that area during game play so I'm baffled as to what's causing the reject. Anyone else had experience with the ferris wheel shot getting rejected?

#1172 2 years ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

Just in case anybody is interested, a couple reasonably priced keyfobs came up on ebay....
ebay.com link: Williams Cyclone Pinball Game Promotional Plastic Wind Original 1988
ebay.com link: Williams Cyclone Pinball Game Promotional Plastic Clown Original 1988

“Thank You” I purchased both promotional items and they look amazing! : )

#1173 2 years ago
Quoted from xcguy:

Anyone have an issue with the ferris wheel shot, where the ball seems to get "rejected"

yep I get that too - mostly on clean, super fast shots up there where the ball hits the wall to make the final downward turn toward the wheel, but actually bounces back through the gate. i've always chalked that one up as 'one of those pinball things' and never bothered to tweak

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#1174 2 years ago

So excited to get this new OEM playfield. Now, the work starts to get this beauty looking like new

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#1175 2 years ago
Quoted from Meri-cah:

So excited to get this new OEM playfield. Now, the work starts to get this beauty looking like new
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That's gonna be nice!

#1176 2 years ago

Restoration complete. Just need the main board and mystery wheel board currently out for repair.

I really like the black powder coating on this game.

Playfield swap completed, all mechs and playfield items rebuilt, tumbled, refreshed. Cab interior sanded and touch ups to art.

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#1177 2 years ago
Quoted from cconway84:

Restoration complete. Just need the main board and mystery wheel board currently out for repair.
I really like the black powder coating on this game.
Playfield swap completed, all mechs and playfield items rebuilt, tumbled, refreshed. Cab interior sanded and touch ups to art.

Look great! I agree, the black powder coating is pretty sweet!

#1178 2 years ago

Damn that is sharp! You got a murdered out cyclone! Love it! I’ll trade you my hoopty for it

#1179 2 years ago

oh yeah that thing is nice. Love the black

#1180 2 years ago
Quoted from cconway84:

Restoration complete. Just need the main board and mystery wheel board currently out for repair.
I really like the black powder coating on this game.
Playfield swap completed, all mechs and playfield items rebuilt, tumbled, refreshed. Cab interior sanded and touch ups to art.
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Nice! Looks beautiful. Great job buddy

#1181 2 years ago

Nice to see one more brought back looking right.

#1182 2 years ago

I haven't read through all the posts in this group yet but has anyone come up with a cool topper?

#1183 2 years ago
Quoted from billsgto:

I haven't read through all the posts in this group yet but has anyone come up with a cool topper?

Somebody made a cool one with the 3 promo plastics. I'll try to find it.

Here ya go....

http://www.jeff-z.com/pinball/cyclone/repair/repair.html

#1184 2 years ago

I would like to make a topper which is a working miniature Cyclone.

#1185 2 years ago
Quoted from Hapidance:

I would like to make a topper which is a working miniature Cyclone.

Some options here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/cyclone-clubmembers-only/page/16#post-5053825

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#1186 2 years ago

So my mystery wheel is cracked. I need to fix it or glue it in somehow... but how does the game know where the wheel actually is? I know it has an opto. Is there somewhere I'm supposed to put this so the game knows what value it's on? How the hell can it know when there is only half and half for the opto to read??

#1187 2 years ago
Quoted from Doctor6:

So my mystery wheel is cracked. I need to fix it or glue it in somehow... but how does the game know where the wheel actually is? I know it has an opto. Is there somewhere I'm supposed to put this so the game knows what value it's on? How the hell can it know when there is only half and half for the opto to read??

There is a tab under the wheel and it passes through the opto as it turns.

1 month later
#1188 2 years ago

A friend dropped off a cyclone for me to fix. So far no 5V from the power supply. Can I swap in a high speed power supply to test the game. The 2 boards although similar are slightly different. The HS has more fuses and a relay and cyclone has no relay. I don't want to screw anything up.

#1189 2 years ago
Quoted from Lovef2k:

A friend dropped off a cyclone for me to fix. So far no 5V from the power supply. Can I swap in a high speed power supply to test the game. The 2 boards although similar are slightly different. The HS has more fuses and a relay and cyclone has no relay. I don't want to screw anything up.

I know that replacement boards are interchangeable. I think some originals are slightly updated but interchangeable. As far as I know, the main difference is the way some connect the GI. Some have wires w/ a molex and some have header pins. The Data east is interchangeable too.

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#1190 2 years ago

Does somebody have a tip where I could get a new or good used playfield - ideally in Europe? I got a Cyclone, but the playfield is really bad

#1191 2 years ago
Quoted from Lovef2k:

A friend dropped off a cyclone for me to fix. So far no 5V from the power supply. Can I swap in a high speed power supply to test the game. The 2 boards although similar are slightly different. The HS has more fuses and a relay and cyclone has no relay. I don't want to screw anything up.

Try the capacitors for the isolation +16 volt input to the IC regulator.

2 weeks later
#1192 2 years ago

Does anyone know where to get the brackets that mount the display to the speaker panel?

Or send me a close up picture and maybe I can make one.

Thanks

#1193 2 years ago

Can someone tell me where this loose yellow wire connects on the left flipper?

I see it coming off the right flipper, but unsure where it connects too.

Thanks

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#1194 2 years ago

It goes here on the other flipper....

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#1195 2 years ago

It goes here on the other flipper....

#1196 2 years ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

It goes here on the other flipper....
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Thanks

#1197 2 years ago

Is that pic still showing up for you? It seems to have disappeared, can still see the box though. Pinside issue maybe, I did not edit to remove.

#1198 2 years ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

Is that pic still showing up for you? It seems to have disappeared, can still see the box though. Pinside issue maybe, I did not edit to remove.

I see 2 posts from you , one has the picture showing up and one doesn't.

#1199 2 years ago

Here's what mine looks like

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#1200 2 years ago
Quoted from jjoravec:

I see 2 posts from you , one has the picture showing up and one doesn't.

Oh thats weird, only saw one post before. Must be a pinside thing, couldn't see lots of other pics this morning.

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