Quoted from Honch:Assuming the conditions of the pins are equal, do you guys think a CV Sample pin is a good straight up trade for an AFM? Do you think cash would have to be added to one side of the deal?
I think the CV owner would come out ahead in that deal: some cash would have to be added (IMHO)--based on desirability/availability.
Quoted from Jgel:Are you only looking for trade? I have a buddy looking for a CV. Man I love you collection.
Thanks, I have been toying with the idea for a while. I gotta say I was looking at NM's collection and that could be my version of a perfect collection, it's only missing a BK2000. BTW I never heard back from you regarding your pinball problem, shoot me an e-mail with the issue. Maybe I can help.
Regards,
The Honch
Quoted from NM:I think the CV owner would come out ahead in that deal: some cash would have to be added (IMHO)--based on desirability/availability.
How much cash do you think would have to be added?
Quoted from Honch:I gotta say I was looking at NM's collection and that could be my version of a perfect collection, it's only missing a BK2000.
Thanks for the kind words Honch.
I'll have to play a BK2000.
Quoted from Honch:How much cash do you think would have to be added?
That's a tough one. The unknown I'm not sure of is how much of a premium a buyer might assign to a CV being a sample vs regular production. Would of course also depend on the condition of the equal machines (both in need PFs & decals vs. being near perfect).
Quoted from Honch:NM said:
I think the CV owner would come out ahead in that deal: some cash would have to be added (IMHO)--based on desirability/availability.How much cash do you think would have to be added?
Hard to judge the value of pins when price guides come out once a year.
An AFM just sold on RGP for 4000 bucks within 30 minutes. No pictures, No description, multiple offers. AFM is in demand right now. I think yours being a sample machine adds value though, the value is probably on your side depending on condition of each machine.
My point: Price guides probably have CV higher, but what people are currently buying and selling them for, they are about the same. If you get any cash in the deal, I think you would have made out in the long run as I think in a couple years the AFM will be worth more.
PS--removing the sample aspect from the equation, these obvservations are noteworthy:
Both titles in need of PFs/decals to make them perfect: somewhere around $3800 each.
However, both titles in near-perfect condition--CVs: I know of an HUO that had a hard time pulling $6500; whereas AFM in the same condition...wouldn't surprise me if it brought 8K now (the demand just seems so high right now).
I tend to agree with you NM, AFM seems to be a hot title right now. I value my game in the mid to high 4k range. The playfield on my game is nearly flawless. I'm not sure how much value is added because it's a sample. I figure it might add 1 or 2 hundred dollars based on the rarity.
Quoted from McCune:Afm also has a ton of very cool mods that can be added to enhance the game, not so much for CV .
That's because CV already came with all the mods.
I have both, and with the stacking abilities in CV, which should be done on every single multi, I may give it the edge.
AFM has been selling at outrageous prices lately though. CV has been high for a while. I think its one of those things that comes down to the demand and you, as it's hard to base what one is worth over the other.
I looked for a cv for a while. Most where above 5k. Found one for sub 4k but it could use new head decals and has some insert ghosting. Plays great.
A sample with a very nice playfield would probably fetch 5,500 and up.
AFM with a vey nice playfield would prob fetch 6k but both are affected by recent
Price inflations.
Could easily be an even swap depending on condition of pins. Just my .02c of course.
Quoted from jimjim66:My point: Price guides probably have CV higher, but what people are currently buying and selling them for, they are about the same. If you get any cash in the deal, I think you would have made out in the long run as I think in a couple years the AFM will be worth more.
Have to agree with this 100%. I would trade a CV for an AFM straight up in same condition no questions asked. AFM prices have been on the rise lately.
Neil has a great collection for sure. Just has 1 or 2 too many sterns (JK).
Neil does have great taste in pins.
I think its a fair trade. AFM is a better pin IMO but they are both high A list pins. I just shopped my AFM this weekend and forgot how awesome it is.....probably the very best pin ever made. CV is up there too but I prefer to play my CV with a good buzz on.....
Play hard, have fun
Bill
Quoted from BillP:Neil has a great collection for sure. Just has 1 or 2 too many sterns (JK).
LOL!
FWIW, I really do want a CV one day (hopefully soon: been pursuing an abandoned location game for some time; reluctant owner).
Love JPop's flow.
Regards,
NM
Quoted from The_Dude_Abides:Have to agree with this 100%. I would trade a CV for an AFM straight up in same condition no questions asked. AFM prices have been on the rise lately.
+1 because it is the game I would most like to own out of the two.
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