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Cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, and Decentralized Finance (DeFi)

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3 years ago


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Post #438 Bitcoin gain loss chart by month from 2011 to Feb 2021 Posted by Pdxmonkey (3 years ago)

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#104 3 years ago

Bought some ATOM off somebody's recommendation and it is doing nicely right now. Thanks for the recommendation!

Anybody have any speculation of what is going to happen with Ripple? I have a fair amount of coins locked up in Coinbase right now due to the SEC investigation. However, it has been going up a little here recently? I know they are supposed to airdrop Spark at some point but don't have any details.

#109 3 years ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

Nice to see you here DBLM! We seem to have a lot in common. I keep running into you in the threads I frequent.

What can I say? You and I are both renaissance men I have had a Coinbase account since 2017 but have only dorked around with things a little. I know very little about crypto but am eager to learn. Thanks for your take on XRP. I appreciate that.

Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

You're staking your ATOM, right? Free money!

Yep!

#115 3 years ago

Just bought a 100 GRT. Like I said, baby steps.

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#650 3 years ago

MANA has been on a roll since the announcement that Atari is going to build a casino in Decentraland.

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#1021 3 years ago

Liking the movement in XRP. Have been sitting on some when Coinbase stopped trading it. Looks like they are going to prevail against the SEC.

#1085 3 years ago

Is anybody else into MANA? Bought it at around .60 and it is now 1.53, up 25% in 24 hours. Pretty interesting as it is the currency of Decentraland.

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#1453 2 years ago

Anybody else have any LTC? Going up!

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#1748 2 years ago

Matic is going parabolic. Bought 900 bucks of it on May 12.

#1866 2 years ago

Interesting that Wells Fargo is going to start a managed crypto offering but only for wealthy clients. Have to make 200K a year or have assets of 1M to qualify. Curious what this turns out to be.

https://decrypt.co/71370/wealthy-clients-wells-fargo-will-soon-be-able-buy-bitcoin?&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=feed&utm_source=coinbase

#1872 2 years ago
Quoted from BMore-Pinball:

I think that would be good, I would give it a try

I will pass along the details when I get them.

#1996 2 years ago
Quoted from Astropin:

I'm willing to bet the bull market is not over...any takers?
The bet would be made in BTC.
I'll bet we still hit at least 100k...this year.
Bet size 0.1 BTC. (Just for total clarity .1 BTC would be = to $10,000 usd if it is at 100k).
Actual bet payout would be made on January 1st 2022.
That means if the price on that date is 200k, the payout would be = to 20k. If the price is 55k then the payout (assuming Bitcoin hit 100k earlier in the year) would be = to 5.5k.
If it never hits 100k you win, and I pay you 0.1 BTC on January 1st.

That is a sucker bet based upon the payout. Your payout has no upper limit but the other side has limited upside and payout would be in a depreciating asset if they win. Now, if you want to throw a few grand USD down straight up as to if on Dec 31, 2021 BTC is over 100k at that point in time now that could be an interesting conversation…

#2001 2 years ago
Quoted from Astropin:

Maybe you missed this:
Edit. A good way to hedge your bet against me would be to buy some BTC while it's cheap. Say 0.4. If you lost the bet, you still made money. If you win the bet, you probably broke even at worst. If it goes up but doesn't break 100k you would win on both ends.

Oh, I saw it. I don’t believe in sucker bets. You are free to take mine if you like.

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#2189 2 years ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

The bet has a limited upside for me and an unlimited downside without a hedge. It's stacked in your favor so I'll have to politely decline.

That is what I said last week. I guess nobody wanted to accept my bet I threw out.

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#2321 2 years ago
Quoted from Astropin:

How convinced are you?

My cash wager still stands.

#2326 2 years ago
Quoted from Astropin:

? 0.5 Bitcoin is 0.5 Bitcoin. If if you really think it's not going to 100k this year...which, even I think is getting questionable...
We stay this low much longer and I'll be cancelling that offer.

Easier for me to deal in BTC instead of cash for something like this. It's a bet about BTC, in BTC.

Both Spyder and I have been saying the way that you have the bet structured is a sucker bet. Why would I want to get paid in BTC if it is on the way down? For me to profit the most, it has to lose its intrinsic value. This puts a limit on what I can win. But theoretically, there is no upper limit to what you could win.

Kudos to you for coming up with a slick bet or stealing it from somebody but this is ridiculous. But if you ever want to convert to old boring fiat we can talk.

#2330 2 years ago
Quoted from Astropin:

Okay, how about a fiat valued bet...made in BTC? For example; our bet is for $2500 US. Same parameters I set up originally except in this case its a flat USD value paid in BTC on Jan 1st 2022?

No no no! My winning potential is minuscule while you potentially have unlimited upside. That is the point that you are ignoring.

How about this: 5K paid however the winner likes that BTC is 100K on 12/31? It is purely binary. If on that date it is 100K, you get 5K payable however you like. If it is not 100K, I get paid however I like.

#2334 2 years ago
Quoted from Astropin:

It think you are confused by my offer. The payout is valued at $2500 USD REGARDLESS of BTC's value on Jan 1st. What I'm not going to do is specify the exact date BTC has to be valued at 100k. My upside is the same as yours...$2500 USD...just paid out in BTC. The entire point of my bet is that BTC will hit 100k at some point in 2021. If you truly think it won't, then you should take the bet.

Oh, I was not confused at all. I was recasting the bet as I saw fit based upon your ridiculous first bet.

Here is my counteroffer: 5K USD bet paid in whatever manner the winner specifies that BTC will not pass and stay above 100K USD for 72 consecutive hours prior to 11:59 and 59 seconds December 31st, 2021 EST. Loser of the bet has to do whatever payment conversions that the winner asks for. This bet prevents flukes and proves out the staying power of BTC.

#2336 2 years ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

You're also going to want to specify an exchange or oracle for pricing data.

That is a good point. I will defer to Astropin on that. I have looked at online escrow services like escrow.com so we would put our assets in those at the beginning of the bet. Since none of us know each other that would make the most sense. Since I am insisting on the escrow, I will even pay the escrow fee, which appears to be $173 for the 10K of assets.

#2338 2 years ago
Quoted from Astropin:

I appreciate your efforts but the parameters just keep building up...72 consecutive hours....escrow (I actually have no issue with the escrow, but do they safely hold crypto assets?) I want to bet and deal in BTC. We can deal with USD values but I want to transact in Bitcoin. I wanted to keep it simple...Will BTC hit 100k or not? The 72 hours could be a tuff nut because we all know BTC is volatile and I expect the 100k barrier to be extremely volatile...that's definitely a psychological barrier, and we've seen what those barriers have done in the past. A lot of "profit taking" will happen right at that level. I thought my last offer was a fair one....dealing in a fixed USD value for the actual payout. But if we can't get there, that's fine with me also. It be fun to see what happens regardless.

We just can’t get there from here. Like you said, we will have to see what happens.

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#2612 2 years ago

I don't follow crypto as closely as some of you (I only have a few grand in it) but I am a big stock investor and finance guy. I think crypto has significant headwinds in front of it right now and I would urge caution before throwing money in this right now. Spyderturbo007 asked about when you pull the ripcord and as an investor, I would think that if you have gains you might consider locking those in now. I think this thing can fall further so do not think this is the time to average down (I myself am not averaging down at this time because I don't think we are at bottom).

I know that folks have been touting crypto (particularly BTC) as a store of value and that they hold these beliefs dear. I think the volatility that we are seeing proves that we are not deep enough in the maturity cycle yet for BTC to be a true store of value and that instead, it is a speculative investment at this point. Please, please be careful out there with your investments. This is not calling anybody out and is not my intention. But when your investment drops by half and you have the governmental headwinds that is a time be diligent when you make investment decisions.

GLTA.

#2724 2 years ago
Quoted from Astropin:

Except, no one ever took me up on that. A lot of chatter, but no actual bet made.

My counterbet still stands.

9 months later
#6066 2 years ago
Quoted from darkryder:

Would you sell 200 shares of Tesla stock or a CryptoPunk to pay taxes due for 2021 and why? Struggling with this decision and was leaning toward selling Tesla before the split announcement. Note that I own two CryptoPunks and would only sell one. Any advice from the pros is welcome.

Cryptopunk easily. Tesla tends to do incredibly well after a stock split and this one has a lot of buzz behind it already.

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#6610 1 year ago

I think the interesting story is if BTC hits 21K and Michael sailor gets margin called. I say yes.

#6631 1 year ago

We are getting ready to hit 21K and the Microstrategy margin call. Nobody else interested in this? This is going to have huge ramifications.

#6636 1 year ago
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:

This was from Saylor.
Edit: looks like they posted 2089 btc as collateral recently.
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For context, that tweet was from May 12. Lot of things have changed. That still does not answer the question if they got margin called, which nobody knows right now.

#6637 1 year ago
Quoted from cait001:

"In 1999, MicroStrategy, Saylor’s software firm, admitted to overstating its revenues and erroneously reporting a profit when it actually made a loss. The fiasco shaved over $11 billion off MicroStrategy’s stock market value in a single day."
fuck this guy, he should still be in prison. "White collar crime" goes unpunished and the perpetrators get to come back to the casino. It's all just low-level "cost of doing business" fines, with perpetrators cushioned by an army of lawyers and abstracting legal entities.
Just disgusting. This is what happens when we let kings write the rules for a century and then tell us to celebrate and emulate their genius.

In the industry that I am in, he is a very polarizing person. The stories about things that happen at his company are legendary. There are more than a few folks that are sharpening their claws right now.

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