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CPR *WAVE FIVE OUT* - PLASTICS & GLASSES Releases


By KevinCPR

1 year ago



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#51 1 year ago
Quoted from KevinCPR:

STAR TREK (proto)

Awesome I best start saving now!

#52 1 year ago
Quoted from KevinCPR:

FIRST WAVE (Now available in the CPR Store at our web site):
Plastics sets:
EIGHT BALL DELUXE
FATHOM SuperSet
CYCLONE
TALES FROM THE CRYPT
SPACE INVADERS
MATA HARI
TAXI
DINER
Backglasses:
WIZARD
STAR TREK (proto)
STRIKES & SPARES
PARAGON
SPACE MISSION
SPACE ODYSSEY
JOKER POKER
NITRO GROUNDSHAKER
MEDUSA
FLIGHT 2000
BANZAI RUN (with or without acrylic liner)
KEVIN
Classic Playfield Reproductions
http://www.classicplayfields.com

kevincpr Any chance you'll ever do the backglass or playfield for the Joker Poker EM version?

#53 1 year ago

I'll be ordering Evel Knievel Plastics as soon as they are avail again... This is better than Christmas!

#54 1 year ago
Quoted from AMBoggs:

Those are still for sale on Planetarys site.

That is a wishlist not for sale.

#55 1 year ago
Quoted from colinize:

kevincpr Any chance you'll ever do the backglass or playfield for the Joker Poker EM version?

Being done by shay. The backglass that is.

#56 1 year ago

Elvira And The Party Monsters backglass.

The Getaway plastics.

Please

#57 1 year ago

Eightball Deluxe LE backglass would be nice

#58 1 year ago

how about doing some easily broken plastics. I'm in need of a ST25th slingshot (a ball split her head in half - like most of them out there). I hate buying a full plastic set just to get one piece.

#60 1 year ago

Pinbot & Highspeed Plastics. Highspeed Backglass

#62 1 year ago

I know many who would sell their soul for

Time Fantasy Playfield and plastics.
Doctor who Plastic Set.
Catacomb Plastics

I need to get a Silverball Mania Playfield

#63 1 year ago

Judge dredd plastics please

#64 1 year ago
Quoted from TechnicalSteam:

I know many who would sell their soul for
Time Fantasy Playfield and plastics.
Doctor who Plastic Set.
Catacomb Plastics
I need to get a Silverball Mania Playfield

I dunno.... my soul commands a much higher price than that....

#65 1 year ago

Can you please just produce the ENTIRE Eight Ball Deluxe game? Playfield, backglass, cabinet, everything?

#66 1 year ago

Are you concerned about making corrections on initial mistakes with the new runs?

I've been sitting on a useless $230 CPR Banzai Run backglass because the colors were done wrong....and are still wrong!

Who's idea was it to not give the bikers flesh tones?

Better question: Why is this still a good idea?

The "Original" picture is what it's supposed to look like. The "Repro" picture is the CPR repro taken off their backglass.
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#67 1 year ago

A 2nd vote for the alternate prototype Grand Lizard back glass. Thanks

#68 1 year ago

And a Third vote for the alternate prototype Grand Lizard back glass. Thanks

#69 1 year ago

Wow, awesome news but man, oh man I wish there was some way you could make a Gottlieb "Canada Dry" playfield!

#70 1 year ago
Quoted from KevinCPR:

Of course, I know many today don't know CPR's past history of the exact ~130 plastics & glasses we did all the way back to 2004... but many do.

Do you have a list for those of us that don't know the history?

#71 1 year ago

Repro back glasses, repro plastics, repro play fields. Wiring can be bought (not easily but possible), cabs can be built. Most standard parts can be bought. So, for quite a few pins it will be possible to build a new unit from "scratch".

The bottleneck? The proper transformer. There has to be a shop out there somewhere that can wind a transformer to order. Does anybody know of such source?

#72 1 year ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

Repro back glasses, repro plastics, repro play fields. Wiring can be bought (not easily but possible), cabs can be built. Most standard parts can be bought. So, for quite a few pins it will be possible to build a new unit from "scratch".
The bottleneck? The proper transformer. There has to be a shop out there somewhere that can wind a transformer to order. Does anybody know of such source?

Just use two or three transformers to meet your specific needs.

#73 1 year ago

So sweet the playfields are coming!

I'd like to take this opportunity to let people know...experienced CPR bulletproofing clear coat specialist here for hire!

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#74 1 year ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

Repro back glasses, repro plastics, repro play fields. Wiring can be bought (not easily but possible), cabs can be built. Most standard parts can be bought. So, for quite a few pins it will be possible to build a new unit from "scratch".
The bottleneck? The proper transformer. There has to be a shop out there somewhere that can wind a transformer to order. Does anybody know of such source?

I have used these guys for work related applications (low voltage high current heat dies) but they do make custom transformers.

http://www.lcmagnetics.com/ i just reached out to them if these are in their wheelhouse.

#75 1 year ago

How about Solar City with red in place of the orange? Why are they orange anyway? Just looks out of place.

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#76 1 year ago

Spy Hunter backglass
strange science plastics

please

#77 1 year ago
Quoted from Magic_Mike:

Are you concerned about making corrections on initial mistakes with the new runs?

Depends on what is a "mistake". Thank you for the photos. This is the first time since 2007 *anyone* has debated the face colors on our BR glasses. From 2007-2008, our run of 150 glasses (or so) all sold to 150 different individuals, and not one said anything about the faces being a mistake.

Reason being, WE never considered it a mistake either. Working off an existing original glass, from a donor, the layout was made to mimic refreshed colors, and those were screened at the time. I still have some old photos (albeit not great) from the BR backglass photo gallery that was posted at that time on our site. (attached below) That original glass is long gone, given back to the donor... but the pix will show you what we were dealing with. I assure you, the faces were all off-white cream... same tone as the checkerboard patterns right next to them. There wasn't a hint of fleshtone. Seeing your pic is a huge and amazing difference to the original we had. Huge. As in completely different. Our main concern at the time was restoring the colorshifted teals back to greens.

Seeing yours, I like the fleshtone better (of course) and I will personally make the change to the master file. But now I'm wondering why 150 people didn't speak up back in 2007-2008 ? You'd think if the white faces were that off, then 2, 5, 10 people might speak up. At least. It boggles me.

Anyway, this is what feedback is for. I like the fleshtone better. If it was original (at least on yours, but definitely not the one we had) then it's more than enough justification to change it to a better look... and we won't have to defend the change.

Thanks for bringing it forward.

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#78 1 year ago

It's amazing how many have a horrific sense of color. Add that to the fact that most of the population is not detail oriented, and it's easy to see how 150 people didn't complain. Most were probably just thrilled to have something better than what they owned.

I have a Bobby Orr bg that's perfect in everyway, except his face is pale. Remember, between fading and separation and screening issues, there's probably a lot of variation in what are seen as immaculate examples. I have three sets of orignal Superman plastics, all near perfect, and the flesh tone differences between them are huge, while everything else is the same. I'm sure this particular issue is more common than anyone realizes.

Oh yeah, can't wait for Bobby Orr pf's.

#79 1 year ago
Quoted from KevinCPR:

Seeing yours, I like the fleshtone better (of course) and I will personally make the change to the master file. But now I'm wondering why 150 people didn't speak up back in 2007-2008 ? You'd think if the white faces were that off, then 2, 5, 10 people might speak up. At least. It boggles me.

The majority of Banzai Runs have faded backglasses. The donor that you had was faded, as noted from the edges.

My machine is HUO and that is probably what saved it.

Nobody spoke up because nobody knew the difference.

I'm glad to hear that this will finally be addressed.

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#80 1 year ago
Quoted from Magic_Mike:

Are you concerned about making corrections on initial mistakes with the new runs?
I've been sitting on a useless $230 CPR Banzai Run backglass because the colors were done wrong....and are still wrong!
Who's idea was it to not give the bikers flesh tones?
Better question: Why is this still a good idea?
The "Original" picture is what it's supposed to look like. The "Repro" picture is the CPR repro taken off their backglass.

Forget the colors, the edges on the lines are really crap, too. Looks like a poor jpg instead of a vector image. The checkerboard flag, circle and lettering for the name are all rough and crappy compared to the original.

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#81 1 year ago
Quoted from vireland:

Forget the colors, the edges on the lines are really crap, too. Looks like a poor jpg instead of a vector image. The checkerboard flag, circle and lettering for the name are all rough and crappy compared to the original.

That was late 2006, dude. This was our third project, after Centaur playfields (from original films, 2004) and Black Knight playfields (from the immaculate vectored overlay films, 2005-2006). This was our very first attempt at original redrawn artwork, without original films. These sold thru 2007-2008, timeframe.

The blackline was lifted one-generation from an original... not vectored. It's 400dpi bitmap onto film, printed through 200 mesh (100 lines per inch). With all of the ink gain, blobbery, and mesh serration commonplace to wet screen presses - that is what you end up dealing with. A ton of learning has happened in 12 years since. The battle to minimize all of those gremlins. All the color layers after the blackline were vector.

2006 also saw Flight 2000 and Centaur plastics using similar redraw art packages. It wasn't until Xenon playfields in 2007 that a 100% vectored art package (blackline and all) was used for the first time. After that, pretty much every blackline was vector. But we've seen it all - including several projects from rubylith films.

The scale of this stuff is not meant to be photographed at 3 inches away... even the original has it's shortcomings - and they had the original films. I'd say their screen mesh was likely a little finer - like 230 or 280 mesh. But you can still see the silk serrations on the original edges too. They're just smaller.

On both, neither is visible at 2-3 feet (arms length). Edges appear identical.

Regardless, the new prints today in 2018 are exactly on par with original crispness. Fleshtone has been added in, too.

#82 1 year ago
Quoted from KevinCPR:

That was 2006, dude. This was our third project, after Centaur playfields (from original films, 2004) and Black Knight playfields (from the immaculate vectored overlay films, 2005). This was our very first attempt at original redrawn artwork, without original films.

Didn't realize the context, nor how old that effort was. Good to hear that the digital reprints of these old ones from here out will have vector crispness. Thanks for the quick detailed response!

#83 1 year ago

Any chance of the smaller Banzai Run backglass that houses the score displays?

#84 1 year ago
Quoted from KevinCPR:

That was late 2006, dude. This was our third project, after Centaur playfields (from original films, 2004) and Black Knight playfields (from the immaculate vectored overlay films, 2005-2006). This was our very first attempt at original redrawn artwork, without original films. These sold thru 2007-2008, timeframe.
The blackline was lifted one-generation from an original... not vectored. It's 400dpi bitmap onto film, printed through 200 mesh (100 lines per inch). With all of the ink gain, blobbery, and mesh serration commonplace to wet screen presses - that is what you end up dealing with. A ton of learning has happened in 12 years since. The battle to minimize all of those gremlins. All the color layers after the blackline were vector.
2006 also saw Flight 2000 and Centaur plastics using similar redraw art packages. It wasn't until Xenon playfields in 2007 that a 100% vectored art package (blackline and all) was used for the first time. After that, pretty much every blackline was vector. But we've seen it all - including several projects from rubylith films.
The scale of this stuff is not meant to be photographed at 3 inches away... even the original has it's shortcomings - and they had the original films. I'd say their screen mesh was likely a little finer - like 230 or 280 mesh. But you can still see the silk serrations on the original edges too. They're just smaller.
On both, neither is visible at 2-3 feet (arms length). Edges appear identical.
Regardless, the new prints today in 2018 are exactly on par with original crispness. Fleshtone has been added in, too.

Thanks CPR!

#85 1 year ago

Really, really need a Centaur backglass when they become available. To go with the awesome playfield I got from you.

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#86 1 year ago

Really hate how the community comes across in this thread. CPR announces a list of re-releases and that they will continue to rerelease in a timely fashion. Community complains about quality of old projects and then whines for things to be made. Doesn't anyone on here have at least some level of patience? We are about to see 130 projects come back, why not put a cork in it and be thankful for a change?

#87 1 year ago
Quoted from dung:

Really hate how the community comes across in this thread. CPR announces a list of re-releases and that they will continue to rerelease in a timely fashion. Community complains about quality of old projects and then whines for things to be made. Doesn't anyone on here have at least some level of patience? We are about to see 130 projects come back, why not put a cork in it and be thankful for a change?

I AM thankful, as are most. It's a great resource for the hobby.

#88 1 year ago

CFTBL speaker panel - deluxe run (chrome looking bumpers). Saw one in person - love to have one.

#89 1 year ago

I’d love to see Data East Batman plastics and backglasses along with new playfields, can’t wait to see what things come from this.

#90 1 year ago
Quoted from dung:

Really hate how the community comes across in this thread. CPR announces a list of re-releases and that they will continue to rerelease in a timely fashion. Community complains about quality of old projects and then whines for things to be made. Doesn't anyone on here have at least some level of patience? We are about to see 130 projects come back, why not put a cork in it and be thankful for a change?

I fully agree about whining about the quality of the past projects, but CPR asked for opinions on what to remake in the original post so i feel that is fair for anyone to ask.

#91 1 year ago

Will the BOP faces be re-run as well? This is currently listed as OOS on the website.

#92 1 year ago
Quoted from dung:

Doesn't anyone on here have at least some level of patience?

99.999999% of Pinside is over 60 and over weight.

Patience will only show them their wife selling their games after the funeral.

#94 1 year ago

You young whipper-snapper! Why in my day.....

#95 1 year ago
Quoted from vid1900:

99.999999% of Pinside is over 60 and over weight.
Patience will only show them their wife selling their games after the funeral.

Speak for yourself vid, 32 here you old timer

#96 1 year ago
Quoted from vid1900:

99.999999% of Pinside is over 60 and over weight.
Patience will only show them their wife selling their games after the funeral.

32 here also

#97 1 year ago

31 here, but then I have a reputation for being a young hot head who runs his mouth.

#98 1 year ago
Quoted from J85M:

Speak for yourself vid, 32 here you old timer

Quoted from Mitch:

32 here also

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#99 1 year ago
Quoted from J85M:

Speak for yourself vid, 32 here you old timer

Quoted from Mitch:

32 here also

Quoted from dung:

31 here, but then I have a reputation for being a young hot head who runs his mouth.

Excellent.

You guys get to wait 10 more years for your Firepower playfields.

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