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A current theory is that there are multiple (2) strains of the COVID-19 coronavirus.
New research from China suggests there may be two distinct strains of SARS-CoV-2 spreading - and one of the strains may be significantly more deadly. The WHO is now estimating that the mortality rate from the coronavirus epidemic is 3.4% - higher than previously thought. The CDC has released an official list of effective cleaning agents for the novel coronavirus.
I just got back to work from having the flu. Now I can fart without fear. When I'm on the elevator with people, I purposely cough.
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:...don’t believe the hype
Believe the dog wearing the funny hat instead!
Scare tactics. Government, media and pharmaceutical companies pushing their agenda. Do your own research. Wash your hands. And stop freaking out. The only reason this is worry some is that it can be transfered from humans to animals. Possibly affecting our food supply.
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Quoted from erak:Do your own research.
I have, and in the regular flu thread we learned that no one dies from the flu, so your link saying 12,000 people have died is obviously wrong. Take your scare tactics somewhere else!
Quoted from Monk:Only when you are banned from the other thread.
treat it as if the OP was involuntarily self quarantined.
COVID-19 (Pro aka "S") seems like a less virulent and less deadly version of COVID-19 (SLE aka "S").
Here's to hoping that COVID-19 Pro/S is what made it the US.
COVID-19 Mutation and Evolution
https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463
Coronavirus has evolved, Peking (Beijing) University's School of Life Sciences and the Institute Pasteur of Shanghai
The SARS-CoV-2 epidemic started in late December 2019 in Wuhan, China, and has since impacted a large portion of China and raised major global concern. Herein, we investigated the extent of molecular divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and other related coronaviruses. Although we found only 4% variability in genomic nucleotides between SARS-CoV-2 and a bat SARS-related coronavirus (SARSr-CoV; RaTG13), the difference at neutral sites was 17%, suggesting the divergence between the two viruses is much larger than previously estimated. Our results suggest that the development of new variations in functional sites in the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of the spike seen in SARS-CoV-2 and viruses from pangolin SARSr-CoVs are likely caused by mutations and natural selection besides recombination. Population genetic analyses of 103 SARS-CoV-2 genomes indicated that these viruses evolved into two major types (designated L and S), that are well defined by two different SNPs that show nearly complete linkage across the viral strains sequenced to date. Although the L type (∼70%) is more prevalent than the S type (∼30%), the S type was found to be the ancestral version. Whereas the L type was more prevalent in the early stages of the outbreak in Wuhan, the frequency of the L type decreased after early January 2020. Human intervention may have placed more severe selective pressure on the L type, which might be more aggressive and spread more quickly. On the other hand, the S type, which is evolutionarily older and less aggressive, might have increased in relative frequency due to relatively weaker selective pressure. These findings strongly support an urgent need for further immediate, comprehensive studies that combine genomic data, epidemiological data, and chart records of the clinical symptoms of patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).
Between corona virus and the us election comedy abounds.
The line between fact and fiction has been totally erased in the "information age".
Quoted from PinballAir:Between corona virus and the us election comedy abounds.
The line between fact and fiction has been totally erased in the "information age".
Coronavirus outbreak may have unleashed panic buying of Hostess Twinkies and Ding Dongs
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Should be a new member coming soon.
I’ve been eating the used gum that’s stuck under tables for years now, I have a Herculean immune system now. No worries here.
Quoted from Jaybird815:I’ve been eating the used gum that’s stuck under tables for years now, I have a Herculean immune system now. No worries here.
Red ginseng sugar-free gum!?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3879333/
download (1) (resized).jpegItaly is getting hit hard.
Coronavirus: Italy says it's had 41 new COVID-19 deaths in just 24 hours
U.K. sees it's first COVID19 death.
If you haven't already stocked up on food and medicine, here's a helpful guide:
I know the official statement is that masks are not helpful and potentially harmful, but if you managed to score some...
Let's watch a few instructional videos made for nurses dealing with patients with upper respiratory infections.
Putting them on correctly doesn't seem like it's too difficult, does it? It's not like you're doing a playfield swap.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/preparing-for-coronavirus-to-strike-the-u-s/
Preparing for the almost inevitable global spread of this virus, now dubbed COVID-19, is one of the most pro-social, altruistic things you can do in response to potential disruptions of this kind.
We should prepare, not because we may feel personally at risk, but so that we can help lessen the risk for everyone. We should prepare not because we are facing a doomsday scenario out of our control, but because we can alter every aspect of this risk we face as a society.
That’s right, you should prepare because your neighbors need you to prepare—especially your elderly neighbors, your neighbors who work at hospitals, your neighbors with chronic illnesses, and your neighbors who may not have the means or the time to prepare because of lack of resources or time.
Great article, that everyone should read, about "flattening the epidemic curve".
This is the guy who's responsible for the "40% to 70% infection" mathematical projection.
Marc Lipsitch
Infectious disease epidemiologist and microbiologist, aspirational barista.
https://twitter.com/mlipsitch
Marc's Twitter account linked to a good site with scientific/medical articles:
Experts envision two scenarios if the new coronavirus isn’t contained
Who is getting sick, and how sick? A breakdown of coronavirus risk by demographic factors
We’re learning a lot about the coronavirus. It will help us assess risk
Susan Desmond-Hellmann: The coronavirus is alarming. Here’s why you should not panic
Good news from Asia, that number of new cases from China and South Korea are declining.
Also some interesting before/after pictures from the Vatican City and Mecca, that show how the public's reaction is effecting tourism.
Quoted from cottonm4:Well, shut my mouth. Another thread on the virus. I think I'll lurk for awhile.
This is now my go to for reasons I can’t mention. I am going to change my location to Texas and see what happens.
Check back in a year or so all of the nothing to be concerned about crowd. I hope you’re right!
I wonder why the prez signed a 8.5 billion dollar aid package for Coronavirus?
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This is pretty lazy and stupid. NONE of those things on this dumb list was advertised as GOING TO KILL US ALL (really?! The BP spill was the best they could come up with for 2010? I mean, just leave that year blank if it's best you can do. Same with 2008, 2000, 2001, 2013...). And I haven't heard anybody suggest that THIS is GOING TO KILL US ALL.
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An important event was absent from your list:
9/11/2001 - 2,996 deaths
Which resulted in daily color-coded threat levels and completely revamped our global safety precautions for airline travel to this day.
Not to mention the longest running war in US history which has cost $900 billion so far.
If only we could have had some of you level-headed statisticians around to remind us that the seasonal flu kills between 12,000 – 61,000 a year.
Quoted from Zablon:It's only going to kill the unimportant people. Don't worry CEO's are safe.
Funny you mention CEO's... a record number have resigned their posts in the last 18 months. Maybe they know something we don't?
Quoted from okayestpinballer:An important event was conveniently absent from your list?
9/11/2001 - 2,996 deaths
Which resulted in daily color-coded threat levels and completely revamped our global safety precautions for airline travel to this day.
Not to mention the longest running war in US history which has cost $900 billion so far.
If only we could have had some of you level-headed statisticians around to remind us that the seasonal flu kills between 12,000 – 61,000 a year.
I forgot to mention phenomena kills around 1.4 million per year. 50,000 in average in the US. And in 2016 it killed 3 million + people worldwide.
Quoted from erak:I forgot to mention phenomena kills around 1.4 million per year. 50,000 in average in the US. And in 2016 it killed 3 million + people worldwide.
Phenomena = pneumonia?
Quoted from CrazyLevi:This is pretty lazy and stupid. NONE of those things on this dumb list was advertised as GOING TO KILL US ALL (really?! The BP spill was the best they could come up with for 2010? I mean, just leave that year blank if it's best you can do. Same with 2008, 2000, 2001, 2013...). And I haven't heard anybody suggest that THIS is GOING TO KILL US ALL.
Oh, I see you haven't heard. As It turns out, the brain trust on Pinside believes that if you show any level of common sense towards this disease, you are a fear monger.
So you can take your logic and your facts and flush them along with your antibacterial wipes, because they have no place on here.
I thought the market would be up today. I was wrong. But it did have a nice late day recovery. That would suggest that Monday might a a good up day, but the virus is changing faster than all who are trying to chase it with a fix.
I took a look at Boeing's stock chart. Boeing has had its share of problems with the grounding of the 737 Max a year ago. And the recent news suggests Boeing will be able to put the Max back in the air soon. But the virus is a new wrinkle for this company. Airline companies are getting hit hard; Demand is through the floor; Flights are being cut back; Opec can't get a handle on crude prices and wants to cut production but one Opec partner is being difficult. I am enjoying the cheap gas but I hope I am not shooting my self in the foot by saying that.
Boeing is the largest export company in the U.S. and contributes much to the U.S. balance of payments. The airliners are getting hit hard and it look like the losses are going to be huge. If the airlines are not making any money, how will they fund their new plane purchases from Boeing? This virus action could throw the entire airline industry for a loop. And Boeing, IMO, will not escape.
My town is the aircraft town. Spirit makes a large part of the 737 fuselages. Spirit finally had to lay off 2800 people about 6 weeks ago because of the Max grounding and has now been thinking of firing production back up just so the lay offs don't leave town for another job. The layoffs have affected many local small suppliers that also support out local aircraft industry. Boeing makes a lot of jobs in Kansas and all kinds of layoff help and training programs, at state level, are being put in place.
Here is Boeing's 5 year stock chart. It is not looking good for the home team. From a technical chart perspective it is very important that Boeing can hold this price of $255.00.
If the stock breaks that red line going across the chart at $257.00 then the next stop is $ 120.00. The good thing in this chart is this has been a high volume sell off so maybe the weak sellers are out of the way and some strong buyers step on Monday and start buying. If no buyers, look out below.
Here is an article from last year when the Max was grounded to give you all some perspective of how much of the Dow's and S&P 500s action is made up of Boeing.
Here is an article that is a little more recent.
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It also has been discussed the that Apple is getting back to work in China. Well, good for China; Good for Apple. But Boeing builds its products in the states and creates a lot of jobs in this country. If this virus continues and knocks the airline industry for a loop, then Boeing will not escape and a lot of jobs will be disappearing for a while.
Y'all have a good weekend.
Hard to watch if you have loved ones in a healthcare facility.
Family of Life Care Center residents speak out on coronavirus
Family of residents at the Life Care Center in Kirkland speak with the media. A majority of the confirmed coronavirus cases in King County are connected to the nursing home.
Quoted from cottonm4:I took a look at Boeing's stock chart...
I hope you're wrong about Boeing, and thanks by the way for the local perspective. People's fears about the virus will pull the brakes on the whole economy for ... I dunno, six months? I can see the airlines bearing a lot of that, and then all the effects on their suppliers. As much as that will hurt Boeing, I feel that they've done far more to hurt themselves, destroying decades of reputation as the premiere international manufacturer with poor management and/or excessive cost cutting.
Louisville Kentucky has its first case and they already declared emergency. Arcade show is there this weekend.
Ok. Couple days ago, none in Colorado...then some guy up skiing that flew in from Italy, then a guy from a cruise, then a lady from another cruise...NOW a parent from the school near my kid’s school, they closed early today...that parents kids hang with a kid from my kids school...JACKPOT.
From none to less than a Kevin Bacon away from my family. WTF?
Mainly because I am picturing the schools closed and my kids all being home for god knows how long...that and a bunch of kid’s grandparents getting seriously ill
Pa now has 2 cases. Both people have been out in public before realizing they could have it.
I need to get more supplies.
It only takes one day to wipe out all the basic supplies from a grocery store. They do not keep large supplies of back stock since we get deliveries every day. If something happens that our main supplier can't deliver by the next day. The rest of the store will be cleaned out.
Quoted from Wickerman2:Mainly because I am picturing the schools closed and my kids all being home for god knows how long...that and a bunch of kid’s grandparents getting seriously ill
Oh, I see. Means you get to keep it all in the family 
Quoted from cottonm4:Means you get to keep it all in the family
Man, I was thinking we were weeks away from anything as nutty as school closings. Bam! Literally out of the blue on our doorstep...
Wait until they start testing. Old ebola czar was saying job one would be testing every pneumonia patient like yesterday...healthcare workers probably exposed now.
Crazy Levi mentioned somewhere else that lobster has taken a dive to $8.00 lb. since the Chinese market disappeared.
The other side of that coin? The lobsterman. They will starve at those kinds of prices. And then the fishing boats and all of the boat gear dealers will take a hit. Then the boat gas. Then the dock/slip owners.
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